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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 20:26:25 GMT
Him and Ince the only players who could even be considered INCE !!!!! He made 1 run and scuffed his shot.He was garbage
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 9, 2019 20:31:19 GMT
Not that controversial to me. Played well. Definitely one of the only hopes for the future.
Although we"ll probably loan him to Amiens with just Afobe for cover soon.
'PROCESS'
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Post by blackpoolred on Feb 9, 2019 20:31:43 GMT
Really want the kid do well but if he was man of the match god help us. He is standing in no mans land half the time it was crying out for him to overlap but he was scared of getting forward. Is he under orders not to get forward or was he just knackered? He can put good crosses in but if he is our width then he needs to make himself available. Young, energetic and a bit of quality in him too. He was fantastic today for me and he is only young and will improve A breath of fresh air in what is a calamitous defence. Definitely, one we should get behind - Well done TE
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 20:32:51 GMT
It just makes a total mockery of Gary Rowett and his decision to try and replace him with Cuco Martina, wasting god knows what in the process.
Decent player at this level with loads more to go.
He'll get better.
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Post by nottsover60 on Feb 9, 2019 22:12:22 GMT
Thought he did ok and although I'd have given it to Etebo can't argue. Thought it was the best I've seen from Etebo, strong in possession, good tackling, read the game well and until he tired he made some great runs a bit Nzonzi style.
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Post by rawli on Feb 9, 2019 22:15:36 GMT
Who gives a shit what the pissed up wife of the sponsor thinks?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 22:15:53 GMT
He probably was the best player on the pitch for us tonight, in the same kind of way that Fred West is the cutest serial killer I've ever seen.
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Post by claytonscrubs on Feb 9, 2019 22:24:50 GMT
Clear MOTM for me... 4 or 5 great crosses and plenty of energy, the only positive today.
Some of the threads tonight are baffling, even by Oatcake standards 😲
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Post by jarvinski on Feb 9, 2019 22:26:49 GMT
He’ll be knackered, like the rest of the wankers
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Post by pyrus on Feb 9, 2019 22:39:29 GMT
I thought Edwards, Etebo and Allen were all good. Ince looked a bit lost for most of the match. He picked up a bit just before Bojan came on and when he and Bojan were on the field together I thought they started to make things happen for a while, but I would have given MotM to Allen.
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Post by samba :) on Feb 10, 2019 0:48:45 GMT
Batth for me Edwards a close runner up. 3 of the four looked much better than recent weeks. Batth was decent but the goal really pissed me off. Bmi spent about 20 seconds telling him Hegazi was on his own before Hegazi won the first header
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Post by innocentbystander on Feb 10, 2019 1:02:14 GMT
Etebo, by miles.
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Post by mickey4137 on Feb 10, 2019 1:08:06 GMT
Since when did anyone give a fuck about who is the sponser's MOM?
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Post by tomcmod on Feb 10, 2019 1:15:27 GMT
Really want the kid do well but if he was man of the match god help us. He is standing in no mans land half the time it was crying out for him to overlap but he was scared of getting forward. Is he under orders not to get forward or was he just knackered? He can put good crosses in but if he is our width then he needs to make himself available. Overlap? He would need to have a winger infront of him for him to overlap which there was none today. I know he is a professional footballer but he can't keep running the full length of the pitch as he has noone to cover him as there is no winger to drop. So when he does get up he has to get back ASAP, which means he has to calculate when is best for him to gamble. Having said that I thought he played well today, put some really dangerous balls into the box. Some along the ground which needed someone to gamble on and where Vokes called for it and he placed it on his head.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 10, 2019 2:15:09 GMT
Really want the kid do well but if he was man of the match god help us. He is standing in no mans land half the time it was crying out for him to overlap but he was scared of getting forward. Is he under orders not to get forward or was he just knackered? He can put good crosses in but if he is our width then he needs to make himself available. Overlap? He would need to have a winger infront of him for him to overlap which there was none today. I know he is a professional footballer but he can't keep running the full length of the pitch as he has noone to cover him as there is no winger to drop. So when he does get up he has to get back ASAP, which means he has to calculate when is best for him to gamble. Having said that I thought he played well today, put some really dangerous balls into the box. Some along the ground which needed someone to gamble on and where Vokes called for it and he placed it on his head. One of the two in the middle of the diamond are meant to cover depending what side it is along with the DM, its pretty clear though they're still figuring out the system, agree with you about how well he played, he's the best crosser of the ball we have, he needs to be taking the corners imo.
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Post by Godo on Feb 10, 2019 7:14:32 GMT
A kid still learning the game who is progressing and played really well today.......I know let's criticise him shall we???? I'm not a "be positive and support any rubbish" fan but FFS there's a high % of Stoke fans who need their nappies changing. Edwards edged it for me over Batth, Etebo and even BMI who I thought had one of his best games for us in a long time but obviously that doesn't fit the knicker wetting agenda.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Feb 10, 2019 7:33:17 GMT
Thought Tom was good last night, in fact, if we were going to score a goal it would've come from one of his crosses. Etebo was decent as well but the rest need sticking in a blender.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Feb 10, 2019 8:06:01 GMT
Stick him on the wing and get a proper right back. Put some great balls into the box yesterday.
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Post by Block 22 on Feb 10, 2019 9:44:00 GMT
Really want the kid do well but if he was man of the match god help us. He is standing in no mans land half the time it was crying out for him to overlap but he was scared of getting forward. Is he under orders not to get forward or was he just knackered? He can put good crosses in but if he is our width then he needs to make himself available. Without sounding too ‘football manager’. The problem with our wing backs going forward is that the midfield still haven’t grasped that someone is supposed to fill that gap when he’s getting forward. If we lose possession we can’t expect him to be back in his own box immediately after putting a cross in at the other end. Once the midfield start dropping in properly and the players have more trust in one another Edwards will make a great wingback. He was our main attacking threat yesterday and kept them very quiet on that wing, including a fresh legged Jefferson Montero who’s fast as fuck, by the way.
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Post by robboleek on Feb 10, 2019 9:48:34 GMT
Him and Ince the only players who could even be considered Ince really ? Until Bojan stood up to come on I had forgotten he was on the pitch.....
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 10, 2019 9:51:02 GMT
Really want the kid do well but if he was man of the match god help us. He is standing in no mans land half the time it was crying out for him to overlap but he was scared of getting forward. Is he under orders not to get forward or was he just knackered? He can put good crosses in but if he is our width then he needs to make himself available. Without sounding too ‘football manager’. The problem with our wing backs going forward is that the midfield still haven’t grasped that someone is supposed to fill that gap when he’s getting forward. If we lose possession we can’t expect him to be back in his own box immediately after putting a cross in at the other end. Once the midfield start dropping in properly and the players have more trust in one another Edwards will make a great wingback. He was our main attacking threat yesterday and kept them very quiet on that wing, including a fresh legged Jefferson Montero who’s fast as fuck, by the way. Agreed. It is a potential problem with the diamond system - if they haven't been told it is possible that Allen and Etebo never worked out their responsibility as cover for the full backs.. With a 352 system it is less of a problem as it is quite clear that the two wide players in the back 3 need to cover for the wing back when he is attacking rather than defending. You have to hope that management will sit the players down after each game and review what happened (and what should have happened) when the full backs were well up the pitch. Even though it wasn't specifically his job, I always thought Whelan was excellent at judging when a forward run by any player left a gap which he (Whelan) should cover if no other bugger was doing it.
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Post by nottsover60 on Feb 10, 2019 9:56:15 GMT
I thought Etebo did cover Edwards well and showed all match that he more than anybody is grasping the formation which is pretty damming on the rest as presumably his grasp of Welsh English is not great. Hence my choice as my MOM.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 10, 2019 9:59:57 GMT
I’m not quite sure where the Ince bashing comes from.
He wasn’t perfect yesterday and there were times when he neglected his duties but attacking wise I thought he had a good game, he pulled them out of shape, went past players, created a great opening for Etebo to miss comfortably our best chance of the game and had that great run second half.
If Bojan had had that game people would be touching themselves about it on here. Then again, his dad isn’t Paul Ince...
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Post by ravey123 on Feb 10, 2019 10:00:23 GMT
Really want the kid do well but if he was man of the match god help us. He is standing in no mans land half the time it was crying out for him to overlap but he was scared of getting forward. Is he under orders not to get forward or was he just knackered? He can put good crosses in but if he is our width then he needs to make himself available. Young, energetic and a bit of quality in him too. He was fantastic today for me and he is only young and will improve A breath of fresh air in what is a calamitous defence. Definitely, one we should get behind - Well done TE He needs to learn to drop his shoulder to get past his man - it would make him so much better offensively. Such a shame he isn't blessed with electric pace - if he was he'd turn into a top class winger and wouldn't be with us for long.
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Post by ravey123 on Feb 10, 2019 10:02:35 GMT
I’m not quite sure where the Ince bashing comes from. He wasn’t perfect yesterday and there were times when he neglected his duties but attacking wise I thought he had a good game, he pulled them out of shape, went past players, created a great opening for Etebo to miss comfortably our best chance of the game and had that great run second half. If Bojan had had that game people would be touching themselves about it on here. Then again, his dad isn’t Paul Ince... Tom Ince is such a frustrating player - he is blessed with sublime skills and seems to be able to glide past players at times but not that often. What really pisses me off is his defensive workrate - practicallly non existent - he always looks like he is trying to chase back and get a tackle/block in but when it comes to actually putting his body on the line he backs out or just trails a leg.
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Post by TinkerT on Feb 10, 2019 10:04:20 GMT
I've not been his biggest fan this season but he was our best player last night. The people saying ince clearly know sweet fa about football. He was totally disinterested until he saw bojan warming up then made a good run, that's it. He should be nowhere near the "tip of the diamond" if that's the system nathan plays from now on and should only be played as a winger. I hope last night made clear that McClean shouldn't start upfront either and should likewise only be started as a winger or coming on as a sub like the Leeds game.
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Post by loosestools on Feb 10, 2019 10:04:47 GMT
I thought it was between Allen and Edwards. Allen read the ball well and Edwards reminds me a little of Trippier in his early days. Players who were not man of the match however - Clueless and Mclean with 8 others not far behind. Perhaps the sponsors should vote on 'Wanker of the match'
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Post by nottsover60 on Feb 10, 2019 10:07:58 GMT
The trouble with Ince is his final product. He looks great gliding past players but often beats a player too many before trying a shot or pass letting the penalty area become too crowded. A few of them need to learn from Adam what havoc an early pass or shot can cause.
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Post by DC1863 on Feb 10, 2019 10:08:44 GMT
He probably was the best player on the pitch for us tonight, in the same kind of way that Fred West is the cutest serial killer I've ever seen. What, you don't think Ted Bundy is more handsome?
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Post by raythesailor on Feb 10, 2019 10:10:03 GMT
He had a fairly good game for me, possibly best of a bad bunch is a good way to describe it.
Clucas on the other hand was poor, reluctant to tackle, and at times when he got into an open position I got the impression that people were reluctant to pass to him.
It feels like we are playing every game with 9 or ten men.
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