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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 5, 2020 17:15:57 GMT
Siri, define Narcissist [ nahr-suh-sist ] noun a person who is overly self-involved, and often vain and selfish. Daft pillock! If he was hoping for a sympathy bounce, the polls appear to be moving in the other direction...
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Oct 6, 2020 21:51:17 GMT
Siri, define Narcissist [ nahr-suh-sist ] noun a person who is overly self-involved, and often vain and selfish. Daft pillock! If he was hoping for a sympathy bounce, the polls appear to be moving in the other direction... Apparently, one of his fanboys held up a sign saying, ‘God sent us Trump’! I suppose that makes his fanboys his disciples? Well, eleven of them? Lol!
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 7, 2020 7:44:02 GMT
Difficult to know where Trump goes now. Covid is spreading rapidly throughout the Executive, he's received understandable flak for his narcissistic roadtrip while infectious, and he appears not to have got any sympathy bounce from getting the disease himself...
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Post by redstriper on Oct 7, 2020 8:44:16 GMT
Difficult to know where Trump goes now. Covid is spreading rapidly throughout the Executive, he's received understandable flak for his narcissistic roadtrip while infectious, and he appears not to have got any sympathy bounce from getting the disease himself... in any sane society in normal times he'd be finished... but it's neither, so i hope the opposition don't get complacent. The world needs him to lose, and lose comprehensively - so that his methods are also discredited.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 7, 2020 10:50:29 GMT
Difficult to know where Trump goes now. Covid is spreading rapidly throughout the Executive, he's received understandable flak for his narcissistic roadtrip while infectious, and he appears not to have got any sympathy bounce from getting the disease himself... in any sane society in normal times he'd be finished... but it's neither, so i hope the opposition don't get complacent. The world needs him to lose, and lose comprehensively - so that his methods are also discredited. Indeed so, redstriper, and, even more importantly, to acknowledge Biden as the winner (if that happens) with enough grace and statesmanship to avoid a potentially unpleasant and likely violent transition.
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Post by dutchstokie on Oct 7, 2020 11:55:36 GMT
in any sane society in normal times he'd be finished... but it's neither, so i hope the opposition don't get complacent. The world needs him to lose, and lose comprehensively - so that his methods are also discredited. Indeed so, redstriper, and, even more importantly, to acknowledge Biden as the winner (if that happens) with enough grace and statesmanship to avoid a potentially unpleasant and likely violent transition. Grace and statesmanship sadly are not in the Trump dictionary. Clealry everything is in the balance to be POTUS but if it should come to pass that Trump loses, he will still claim he won and the election was rigged. The whole procedure is a shameful circus in my opinion
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Post by redstriper on Oct 7, 2020 12:17:17 GMT
Indeed so, redstriper, and, even more importantly, to acknowledge Biden as the winner (if that happens) with enough grace and statesmanship to avoid a potentially unpleasant and likely violent transition. Grace and statesmanship sadly are not in the Trump dictionary. Clealry everything is in the balance to be POTUS but if it should come to pass that Trump loses, he will still claim he won and the election was rigged. The whole procedure is a shameful circus in my opinion If he loses and plays that card, he should be pilloried over the one thing he appears to have on his moral compass, his patriotism. It is simply unpatriotic to dispute democratic election results just because you lose and cannot accept defeat. If plays that game and i was an American I'd be calling him a traitor.
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Post by partickpotter on Oct 7, 2020 13:40:14 GMT
Indeed so, redstriper, and, even more importantly, to acknowledge Biden as the winner (if that happens) with enough grace and statesmanship to avoid a potentially unpleasant and likely violent transition. Grace and statesmanship sadly are not in the Trump dictionary. Clealry everything is in the balance to be POTUS but if it should come to pass that Trump loses, he will still claim he won and the election was rigged. The whole procedure is a shameful circus in my opinion Trump will be fine. Why? Because Nigel says... Trump could be poised to turn disaster into triumph
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 7, 2020 18:47:02 GMT
I can't read the rest of that article but is Farage basically saying Trump is a legend for taking a drive while highly infectious?
I'm sure that probably does play well with his supporters who would still vote for him if he shot someone on Fifth Avenue as Trump himself freely admits.
However, he needs to appeal outside the headbanger crowd too. If you've been downplaying the virus for months while 200,000 compatriots have died from it, then go and get hospitalized from it, then risk spreading it further just so you can go for a drive, it's not a great look outside the dedicated loyalists.
Of which, Farage is definitely one.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Oct 7, 2020 20:46:06 GMT
Tick tock... ⏰
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Oct 7, 2020 21:05:15 GMT
I can't read the rest of that article but is Farage basically saying Trump is a legend for taking a drive while highly infectious? I'm sure that probably does play well with his supporters who would still vote for him if he shot someone on Fifth Avenue as Trump himself freely admits. However, he needs to appeal outside the headbanger crowd too. If you've been downplaying the virus for months while 200,000 compatriots have died from it, then go and get hospitalized from it, then risk spreading it further just so you can go for a drive, it's not a great look outside the dedicated loyalists. Of which, Farage is definitely one. One good thing about Farage, he unequivocally likes England and the UK. Not everyone seems to.
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Post by dirtclod on Oct 7, 2020 22:58:00 GMT
Indeed so, redstriper, and, even more importantly, to acknowledge Biden as the winner (if that happens) with enough grace and statesmanship to avoid a potentially unpleasant and likely violent transition. Grace and statesmanship sadly are not in the Trump dictionary. Clealry everything is in the balance to be POTUS but if it should come to pass that Trump loses, he will still claim he won and the election was rigged. The whole procedure is a shameful circus in my opinion First of all - I am not a fan of either party and have been an Independent since I started voting. The US two-party system only ensures that the elitists stay in power. In my state and several others, a 3rd party candidate can't overcome the politics to even get ON the ballots. But you are correct, the whole procedure really is a shameful media-based circus and this mail-in voting will make the 1960 Kennedy election look honest. Don't get me wrong Kennedy was the right guy at the right time - a great president, but Sam Giancana and the Mafia made sure that he won Chicago via voter-fraud, (bussing voters all over Chicago who voted multiple times) which pushed Kennedy over the top to win Illinois by just a few hundred votes. The Democrats will be sure to rig the boxes this time (And NO the Republicans are not above election fraud either) and they (Dems) have always fought voter-ID which would prevent most of this, but keep spinning to the media that the Republicans are only using voter-ID to play "Big Brother." (And knowing the Republicans...it's possible) But by saying this, the Dems are pretty much saying "Vote Early and Vote OFTEN!" We have too large a population to stop fraud in elections. So Biden wins, (And he might win because of legitimate record voter-turnout) inheriting a Republican Senate, which will ensure grid-lock and the prevention of nearly all of the things he wants to get done. And once again the American people lose because nothing of SUBSTANCE will get through. It was one of the frustrations I had when Obama was elected - he had to contend with a hostile Congress who blocked him at every turn. This isn't what was intended by "balance of power" but it's how it ends up working despite both parties worst efforts and somehow....it DOES end up working. Like Yakov Smirnoff used to say "What a Country!" So grab some popcorn, watch the "debates" and glean what entertainment value you can out of it. And yes, I fully expect The Donald to claim that he lost due to election-fraud, which is difficult if not impossible to prove until years later. But if he loses - I expect him to not let the door hit him on the ass on the way out - we can't act like a banana republic and have politicians refusing to leave office. Grace and Statesmanship aren't being practiced by very many politicians on either side these days.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 8, 2020 12:38:00 GMT
Another small downtick for Trump, possibly on the back of his brief Covid escapade. I'm very much in two minds as to whether to believe he even had the disease. It looks so much like a staged event to portray himself as a "superfit guy" who easily saw off the disease. And I had to laugh at his suggestion that it was he who suggested to the doctors how to treat him!
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 8, 2020 12:42:04 GMT
Grace and statesmanship sadly are not in the Trump dictionary. Clealry everything is in the balance to be POTUS but if it should come to pass that Trump loses, he will still claim he won and the election was rigged. The whole procedure is a shameful circus in my opinion First of all - I am not a fan of either party and have been an Independent since I started voting. The US two-party system only ensures that the elitists stay in power. In my state and several others, a 3rd party candidate can't overcome the politics to even get ON the ballots. But you are correct, the whole procedure really is a shameful media-based circus and this mail-in voting will make the 1960 Kennedy election look honest. Don't get me wrong Kennedy was the right guy at the right time - a great president, but Sam Giancana and the Mafia made sure that he won Chicago via voter-fraud, (bussing voters all over Chicago who voted multiple times) which pushed Kennedy over the top to win Illinois by just a few hundred votes. The Democrats will be sure to rig the boxes this time (And NO the Republicans are not above election fraud either) and they (Dems) have always fought voter-ID which would prevent most of this, but keep spinning to the media that the Republicans are only using voter-ID to play "Big Brother." (And knowing the Republicans...it's possible) But by saying this, the Dems are pretty much saying "Vote Early and Vote OFTEN!" We have too large a population to stop fraud in elections. So Biden wins, (And he might win because of legitimate record voter-turnout) inheriting a Republican Senate, which will ensure grid-lock and the prevention of nearly all of the things he wants to get done. And once again the American people lose because nothing of SUBSTANCE will get through. It was one of the frustrations I had when Obama was elected - he had to contend with a hostile Congress who blocked him at every turn. This isn't what was intended by "balance of power" but it's how it ends up working despite both parties worst efforts and somehow....it DOES end up working. Like Yakov Smirnoff used to say "What a Country!" So grab some popcorn, watch the "debates" and glean what entertainment value you can out of it. And yes, I fully expect The Donald to claim that he lost due to election-fraud, which is difficult if not impossible to prove until years later. But if he loses - I expect him to not let the door hit him on the ass on the way out - we can't act like a banana republic and have politicians refusing to leave office. Grace and Statesmanship aren't being practiced by very many politicians on either side these days. It's easy for us to look on aghast across the pond, but our system isn't much better. It's outdated and archaic and unbalanced. PR would be a much better way to do things, which is why most modern democracies go down this route. The argument against PR is that you never get strong governance - well look at what an 80 seat majority gets you, then contrast that with Germany...the systems themselves do not directly affect the nature of the competence of government, but one provides a much better representation of the electorate's wishes.
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Post by redstriper on Oct 8, 2020 14:22:21 GMT
Another small downtick for Trump, possibly on the back of his brief Covid escapade. I'm very much in two minds as to whether to believe he even had the disease. It looks so much like a staged event to portray himself as a "superfit guy" who easily saw off the disease. And I had to laugh at his suggestion that it was he who suggested to the doctors how to treat him! one of my favourite trump stories is the white house briefing held a couple of years back where the countries top experts were called in for an hour long meeting where they could brief him on critical matter of state. Apparently trump spent 50 minutes of the hour talking at them. They left bemused. Anyone who ignores his expert advisors because he thinks he knows better isn't fit to be a leader. They might get lucky for a while, but it'll all fall over soon enough - as Hitler demonstrated.
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Post by dirtclod on Oct 8, 2020 14:25:13 GMT
I was just about to say that very thing Rednwhitenblue. From what I've read/gleaned it sounds like both countries literally are following the same path. Not surprising given that both face the same big issues simultaneously and are close allies. Basically the way it works in the US - If you want big ticket social items fixed, education, welfare, social justice and Kumbaya then the Democrats are your guys - but you will literally die struggling to pay the taxes that it all costs and they don't care. The Republicans are loathe to tax and more protective of the economy and sovereignty but are the "get back on your bike" party and don't care if people fall through the cracks. This has been exacerbated lately by Trump - who is Mr. Extreme. Our media is well over 85% biased towards the Democrats, but the 15% who back Republicans make up for it in viciousness. They are all too stupid to see through Trump's daily manipulation of them for free publicity. They can't take their eyes off him.
You can see a difference clearly in states run by Democrats vs. Republicans. I personally know close to 50 people who have left California like a reverse Grapes of Wrath because the Dems have wrecked the economy through taxation and "nanny" government. They literally can't afford to live there now because it takes a 1/4 million $/year salary just to afford an apartment in many of their cities. Not that the Republicans are much better - Droves are leaving Texas because the Republicans refused to back much beyond the oil industry. Houston and San Antonio are jobless right now. They have lost tens of thousands of jobs with no other industry willing to take up the slack.
I live in Oklahoma (Republican State)- we have thousands of Southeast Kansas (Democrat State) residents who cross the border & shop here every weekend because 1) They can't afford the taxes and 2) Those same taxes have driven tons of small businesses into oblivion so they no longer have the choices in where to shop. (The 2 counties north of us in SE Kansas have the highest tax-rates of all counties in that state)
Both parties have learned to push reliance on the government, which is worrying.
Had to add this example - My neighbor just moved in from the San Francisco area. He bought a new car last year - In order to tag it? California charged him $4100. And this isn't an exotic car. He was paying $350/mo. just for trash service.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 8, 2020 15:12:34 GMT
I was just about to say that very thing Rednwhitenblue. From what I've read/gleaned it sounds like both countries literally are following the same path. Not surprising given that both face the same big issues simultaneously and are close allies. Basically the way it works in the US - If you want big ticket social items fixed, education, welfare, social justice and Kumbaya then the Democrats are your guys - but you will literally die struggling to pay the taxes that it all costs and they don't care. The Republicans are loathe to tax and more protective of the economy and sovereignty but are the "get back on your bike" party and don't care if people fall through the cracks. This has been exacerbated lately by Trump - who is Mr. Extreme. Our media is well over 85% biased towards the Democrats, but the 15% who back Republicans make up for it in viciousness. They are all too stupid to see through Trump's daily manipulation of them for free publicity. They can't take their eyes off him. You can see a difference clearly in states run by Democrats vs. Republicans. I personally know close to 50 people who have left California like a reverse Grapes of Wrath because the Dems have wrecked the economy through taxation and "nanny" government. They literally can't afford to live there now because it takes a 1/4 million $/year salary just to afford an apartment in many of their cities. Not that the Republicans are much better - Droves are leaving Texas because the Republicans refused to back much beyond the oil industry. Houston and San Antonio are jobless right now. They have lost tens of thousands of jobs with no other industry willing to take up the slack. I live in Oklahoma (Republican State)- we have thousands of Southeast Kansas (Democrat State) residents who cross the border & shop here every weekend because 1) They can't afford the taxes and 2) Those same taxes have driven tons of small businesses into oblivion so they no longer have the choices in where to shop. (The 2 counties north of us in SE Kansas have the highest tax-rates of all counties in that state) Both parties have learned to push reliance on the government, which is worrying. Had to add this example - My neighbor just moved in from the San Francisco area. He bought a new car last year - In order to tag it? California charged him $4100. And this isn't an exotic car. He was paying $350/mo. just for trash service. I'd love to know what the average American on an average salary pays in taxation (all taxes) in one year, compared to us here in the UK or continental Europe. Every time I've checked the US comes some way down the list in income tax, but that doesn't take into account all the other taxes. I don't think the problem is taxation itself, it's who ends up paying that tax, where it's targeted and, more specifically, who doesn't pay their share. Look at the President, a man of immense wealth who makes almost zero personal financial contribution to the country he currently presides over. But it doesn't even seem to create that much fuss over there, unless I'm mistaken? Similarly, we have dozens of very wealthy individuals who take non-dom status to dodge tax and it only ever briefly flickers as an issue from time to time. Personally, if it were down to me, I'd introduce a law that prohibited non-dom status millionaires from being able to vote in the country they're dodging taxes from. If you go to Europe, the overall tax take over there is higher than ours and quite a bit higher than the US I'd guess. They still have functioning economies, their public services are generally better than ours, and their people regularly score higher than we do in terms of overall happiness. Striking that balance is the key. The Europeans appear to have managed it better than we (UK/US) have.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Oct 8, 2020 15:17:18 GMT
He never had it, it's a crazy hoax in the aim to boost his chances in the election. He's that fucking mental unfortunately.
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Post by drjeffsdiscobarge on Oct 9, 2020 10:31:54 GMT
He never had it, it's a crazy hoax in the aim to boost his chances in the election. He's that fucking mental unfortunately. I have to admit that crossed my mind at first. Just listened to his interview with Hannity last night and it's different level rambling nonsense even for this buffoon! He certainly sounded like a man on strong mind bending drugs!!! 🤪😷
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Post by bigvigs on Oct 9, 2020 14:37:23 GMT
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Post by murphthesurf on Oct 9, 2020 14:52:03 GMT
He never had it, it's a crazy hoax in the aim to boost his chances in the election. He's that fucking mental unfortunately. I have to admit that crossed my mind at first. Just listened to his interview with Hannity last night and it's different level rambling nonsense even for this buffoon! He certainly sounded like a man on strong mind bending drugs!!! 🤪😷 I think exactly the same thing occurred to most of us, Doc & General. I'm just waiting to see the actual smoke and mirrors at one of his future appearances...
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Oct 9, 2020 16:35:40 GMT
It is now giving all history enthusiasts a modern take on what life in 'Der Führerbunker' would have been like in April 1945.
Downfall is an outstanding movie but this real life and real time documentary is coming to a dramatic conclusion.
🍿 🍿
Tick tock ⏰
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 10, 2020 6:19:56 GMT
God knows what others would do with Obama who really did use the American military to murder thousands around the world
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Oct 10, 2020 12:12:06 GMT
It is now giving all history enthusiasts a modern take on what life in 'Der Füherbunker' would have been like in April 1945. Downfall is an outstanding movie but this real life and real time documentary is coming to a dramatic conclusion. 🍿 🍿 Tick tock ⏰ Shirley you mean Fuhrerbunker?☠️
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Oct 10, 2020 12:26:13 GMT
It is now giving all history enthusiasts a modern take on what life in 'Der Füherbunker' would have been like in April 1945. Downfall is an outstanding movie but this real life and real time documentary is coming to a dramatic conclusion. 🍿 🍿 Tick tock ⏰ Shirley you mean Fuhrerbunker?☠️ I shall be editing immediately!
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 11, 2020 7:03:46 GMT
Report in the papers today that Bluffer's govt have been cosying up to Biden recently, having seen predictions of a landslide win for him.
Expecting a Trump victory now...
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Oct 11, 2020 21:57:36 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 12, 2020 7:03:20 GMT
Christ on a bike you couldn't or wouldn't make this shit up......
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2020 17:14:39 GMT
He's living rent-free in all your heads
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 12, 2020 17:39:36 GMT
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