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Post by Absolution on Jan 25, 2019 18:47:52 GMT
Losing your best players when it’s tight at the top of league 1 would be as mad as losing your manager when you were second in league 1. We sold the best player in the world when we were poised to become Champions of England. My grandad never forgave Matthews for requesting the transfer at that time.
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Post by kelw on Jan 25, 2019 19:25:44 GMT
We sold the best player in the world when we were poised to become Champions of England. My grandad never forgave Matthews for requesting the transfer at that time. I used to work with a gal and her Grandfather played in that team, must look his name up. He claimed that Matthews put in 5 transfer requests that season which was unheard of as Blackpool were willing to pay handsomely. Imagine if a player did that today if was no window. The manager got the blame as Matthews was so well liked according to her Grandfather, McGrory was it?
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Post by baystokie on Jan 25, 2019 20:22:42 GMT
We sold the best player in the world when we were poised to become Champions of England. My grandad never forgave Matthews for requesting the transfer at that time. Of course if you read any of Stan's 'autobiographies' (Feet First, Stanley Matthews Story, The Way It Was)/biographies (by David Miller), you get a different view of what was going on...........
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Post by jarhead on Jan 26, 2019 9:25:04 GMT
Cant we offer Harry souttar until end of season to Pompey and pay them a fee of 3/4 mill for Clarke?
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 26, 2019 9:28:52 GMT
Cant we offer Harry souttar until end of season to Pompey and pay them a fee of 3/4 mill for Clarke? I'd say £4M + Souttar on a permanent basis would be OK too.
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Post by Gods on Jan 26, 2019 9:30:00 GMT
Cant we offer Harry souttar until end of season to Pompey and pay them a fee of 3/4 mill for Clarke? Souttar has not been deemed good enough to ever start a game for us and have we not farmed him out to Ross County in the Scottish Highlands? I can't see the Portsmouth management team exactly creaming their pants at the prospect of Harry joining the club
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Post by berahinosgoals on Jan 26, 2019 9:33:40 GMT
He's a league 1 defender. I find it hard to believe that a club in it's first season in championship football can't just cherry pick league 1 players for a decent fee on both sides.
I suspect he will join next week
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Jan 26, 2019 11:17:15 GMT
He's a league 1 defender. I find it hard to believe that a club in it's first season in championship football can't just cherry pick league 1 players for a decent fee on both sides. I suspect he will join next week It's not that easy. Portsmouth are a big club who could well be in the Championship next season themselves and understandably don't want to let one of their best players go and potentially derail their season. Plus he's young and English which adds a price premium and they know we have money so will quite rightly say 'pay top whack or fuck off'. I'm not sure we're big enough or in a good enough league position to convince Clarke to kick up a fuss and look a dick to force a move either. The club and Jones simply have to make a decision. Is this guy good enough to be worth paying top whack for? Pressure is on because our big money signings have all failed recently and if we have to pay decent money we simply have to get this one right.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Jan 26, 2019 11:26:20 GMT
He's a league 1 defender. I find it hard to believe that a club in it's first season in championship football can't just cherry pick league 1 players for a decent fee on both sides. I suspect he will join next week It's not that easy. Portsmouth are a big club who could well be in the Championship next season themselves and understandably don't want to let one of their best players go and potentially derail their season. Plus he's young and English which adds a price premium and they know we have money so will quite rightly say 'pay top whack or fuck off'. I'm not sure we're big enough or in a good enough league position to convince Clarke to kick up a fuss and look a dick to force a move either. The club and Jones simply have to make a decision. Is this guy good enough to be worth paying top whack for? Pressure is on because our big money signings have all failed recently and if we have to pay decent money we simply have to get this one right. a big club they maybe and they probably don't belong there but they have been down for a while so a 6-7m fee is a lot of money to them at the moment surely? If they want 10m I can understand the hesitation but we have got to get them from somewhere, this is where you trust the managers judgement. The player would surely be interested if you are offering to double his wage and give him a higher platform to perform on? He's also coming in as a first team starter not a back up player
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jan 26, 2019 12:06:10 GMT
Cant we offer Harry souttar until end of season to Pompey and pay them a fee of 3/4 mill for Clarke? I'd say £4M + Souttar on a permanent basis would be OK too. How about £4m and we promise not to give them Souttar?
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 26, 2019 12:50:43 GMT
I'd say £4M + Souttar on a permanent basis would be OK too. How about £4m and we promise not to give them Souttar? Nah....I think my suggestion is better for us.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2019 12:56:46 GMT
Give them £4m, Fletcher and Shenton.
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Post by march4 on Jan 26, 2019 12:59:50 GMT
Give them £4m, Fletcher and Shenton. How about we give them £10M and they can also have Berahino.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 27, 2019 8:35:14 GMT
Nixon's line is "he would cost up to £5m. Portsmouth need him, so that may force Stoke to bid for Danny Batth or Barnsley's Liam Lindsay".
If he'd cost only 5m, surely he'd be here already?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 27, 2019 8:45:46 GMT
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Post by nutterpotter on Jan 27, 2019 9:19:44 GMT
£5m too high?!
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 27, 2019 9:22:13 GMT
In the article, he doesn't actually say 5m is too high. Just says that's what they're looking for as he's so important to them, which may prompt us to look elsewhere. Which seems bizarre if true, which leads me to think it isn't. Surely it can't be? If that is the asking price, surely he'd already be in a Stoke strip?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 9:23:29 GMT
25 times?
He shares the same agent as Martin Braithwaite, a player we were loosely linked with in the summer and also Tom Heaton, another player to have been loosely linked.
Liam Bridcutt is also in that stable, ex of Carto.
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Post by juiceandbits on Jan 27, 2019 9:23:31 GMT
In the article, he doesn't actually say 5m is too high. Just says that's what they're looking for as he's so important to them, which may prompt us to look elsewhere. Which seems bizarre if true, which leads me to think it isn't. Although if that is the asking price, surely he'd already be in a Stoke strip? Given Percy said significant funds are available this seems odd from Nixon. Maybe we’re using it as a negotiating position. Honestly if we don’t pay that I’m incredibly disheartened.
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Post by stokeykez on Jan 27, 2019 9:25:58 GMT
Was 1m a lot for shawcross 10 years ago, pay it stoke
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Post by Han Solo on Jan 27, 2019 9:26:08 GMT
In the article, he doesn't actually say 5m is too high. Just says that's what they're looking for as he's so important to them, which may prompt us to look elsewhere. Which seems bizarre if true, which leads me to think it isn't. Surely it can't be? If that is the asking price, surely he'd already be in a Stoke strip? Nope because Scholes would go in with a 2m canny bid. I have an awful feeling we’ll go cheap and end up with Baeth on loan.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 27, 2019 9:28:42 GMT
We should go for Vokes £9M, Clarke £5M and Lindsay £3M this window, probably Knudsen too £1.5M. In total £18.5M, but I guess we need to ship some players out as well if this is going to happen. If we could send Martina and Williams back it would help, and in addition offload Fletcher, Crouch, Berahino, Bojan and Pieters. Not a lot of money in fees, but a lot saved in wages. Getting rid of Bera is almost impossible unless some Chinese club comes in for him though.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 27, 2019 9:29:57 GMT
Wolves would surely be asking that kind of price for Batth anyway (and he's crap) - so there's nothing in it for us to go cheap and cheerful.
Presumably he could only break his season-loan at Boro for a permanent move, and Wolves won't give him away for buttons.
Don't know anything about Lindsay?
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Post by Dingdangdoo on Jan 27, 2019 9:30:16 GMT
In the article, he doesn't actually say 5m is too high. Just says that's what they're looking for as he's so important to them, which may prompt us to look elsewhere. Which seems bizarre if true, which leads me to think it isn't. Although if that is the asking price, surely he'd already be in a Stoke strip? Given Percy said significant funds are available this seems odd from Nixon. Maybe we’re using it as a negotiating position. Honestly if we don’t pay that I’m incredibly disheartened. Negotiation stances from both sides After yesterday’s outcome we will pay that
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Post by Block 22 on Jan 27, 2019 9:33:47 GMT
More than meets the eye with these leaked articles.. Scholes and Co know exactly what they are doing with that.
Put £4m on the table and leak some rumours about looking elsewhere. I reckon this one might get done.
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Post by sportsman on Jan 27, 2019 11:05:09 GMT
Nixon's line is "he would cost up to £5m. Portsmouth need him, so that may force Stoke to bid for Danny Batth or Barnsley's Liam Lindsay". If he'd cost only 5m, surely he'd be here already? So what we're saying is 5m is too high a fee for a defender we have watched for a long while and obviously see as our number 1 defender target, yet we have wasted fortunes more on other defenders. If it was 12m I could understand it, but 5m asking fee for someone you think would help get us in the premier league next season if not this?
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Post by mongolikecandy on Jan 27, 2019 11:18:17 GMT
It’s highly likely in this case that the leaks are aimed at Clarke’s agent to put a bit of pressure on Pompey to accept a reasonable fee etc or his client, or more importantly he, might miss out on a nice big transfer/signing on fee
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jan 27, 2019 11:29:55 GMT
Hope we've learnt our lesson where doing business with Wolves is concerned???
Once bitten, twice shy, and all that!!!
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Post by aixpotter on Jan 27, 2019 15:00:05 GMT
Clarke’s pace does not match Stoke’s requirements - he won’t be coming here.
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Post by Han Solo on Jan 27, 2019 15:04:22 GMT
Clarke’s pace does not match Stoke’s requirements - he won’t be coming here. Any idea who will be?
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