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Post by ange1 on Dec 14, 2018 15:36:16 GMT
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 14, 2018 15:41:12 GMT
1.Meet the Manager Event – Details will be announced in due course.When we know which manager it will be?
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Post by ange1 on Dec 14, 2018 15:43:20 GMT
Sheik, even by your high standards that was very fast!
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Post by ceejays on Dec 14, 2018 17:54:38 GMT
Turnstile searches - why ? I’m 69 supported since 1958 . I strongly object to being searched full stop. I’ve not been searched at Newcastle Rotherham and Crystal Palace which are the three awaydays I’ve done in last year. Surely your season ticket can include a non search icon ? Absolutely ridiculous to b searched.
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Post by stokesaint1 on Dec 14, 2018 21:19:41 GMT
Turnstile searches - why ? I’m 69 supported since 1958 . I strongly object to being searched full stop. I’ve not been searched at Newcastle Rotherham and Crystal Palace which are the three awaydays I’ve done in last year. Surely your season ticket can include a non search icon ? Absolutely ridiculous to b searched. I'm absolutely with you on this point, especially when you're being searched by young kids barely out of school uniforms, who possibly can't even spell security search, never mind conduct them. The young lad that "searched" me last game told me he was looking for knives, to make sure no one got stabbed inside the stadium. When I asked what they did to make sure no one got stabbed outside the stadium, I drew a blank.
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Post by onefatcopper on Dec 14, 2018 21:49:02 GMT
Turnstile searches - why ? I’m 69 supported since 1958 . I strongly object to being searched full stop. I’ve not been searched at Newcastle Rotherham and Crystal Palace which are the three awaydays I’ve done in last year. Surely your season ticket can include a non search icon ? Absolutely ridiculous to b searched. In the early 1970s when extreme violence was commonplace at football matches across the UK, you would have been in your early twenties, and so for public safety reasons YOU and your kind should be throughly searched . You could be some kind of “SLEEPER “ hooligan, just waiting for it to kick off ! How do we know what you could be carrying ? Sorry officer I was playing a round of golf this morning and forgot to take these balls out of my pocket, and yes it’s the same story with these darts 🎯. Dementia doesn’t pass as a excuse in court old timer, it’s because of you and your type that body searches were introduced in the first place !
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Post by ceejays on Dec 14, 2018 22:14:08 GMT
What an absurd reply. I’m known to Anthony Emmerson personally.So why was I not searched at Newcastle? At Rotherham? at Crystal Palace? I was even searched at Stoke in hospitality at an event organised by Anthony Emmerson!! Crazy times . I feel so strongly about this to the point where it won’t be a protest about Rowett tactics that I don’t renew my season ticket .
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Post by onefatcopper on Dec 14, 2018 22:29:57 GMT
What an absurd reply. I’m known to Anthony Emmerson personally.So why was I not searched at Newcastle? At Rotherham? at Crystal Palace? I was even searched at Stoke in hospitality at an event organised by Anthony Emmerson!! Crazy times . I feel so strongly about this to the point where it won’t be a protest about Rowett tactics that I don’t renew my season ticket . Could it be your close association with Anthony Emerson that’s causing you your problems ? Might it be your distinct lack of humour ? But more than likely it’s because you just have one of those faces that people in authority take a instant disliking too ! Could someone please put me out of my agony, who the fuck is Anthony Emmerson ?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 22:34:26 GMT
What an absurd reply. I’m known to Anthony Emmerson personally.So why was I not searched at Newcastle? At Rotherham? at Crystal Palace? I was even searched at Stoke in hospitality at an event organised by Anthony Emmerson!! Crazy times . I feel so strongly about this to the point where it won’t be a protest about Rowett tactics that I don’t renew my season ticket . Could it be your close association with Anthony Emerson that’s causing you your problems ? Might it be your distinct lack of humour ? But more than likely it’s because you just have one of those faces that people in authority take a instant disliking too ! Could someone please put me out of my agony, who the fuck is Anthony Emmerson ? He is the supporter liaison officer at Stoke and from my own personal dealings with him, not so long ago, is a damn good bloke. He did a lot for me and my family when we went through a very tough time. I can't thank him enough and I'll never be able to repay him. A special thanks to ange1 too who put me in touch with him in the first instance.
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Post by onefatcopper on Dec 14, 2018 22:45:00 GMT
Could it be your close association with Anthony Emerson that’s causing you your problems ? Might it be your distinct lack of humour ? But more than likely it’s because you just have one of those faces that people in authority take a instant disliking too ! Could someone please put me out of my agony, who the fuck is Anthony Emmerson ? He is the supporter liaison officer at Stoke and from my own personal dealings with him, not so long ago, is a damn good bloke. He did a lot for me and my family when we went through a very tough time. I can't thank him enough and I'll never be able to repay him. A special thanks to ange1 too who put me in touch with him in the first instance. Thank you very much for your quick response, and it’s good that someone at club has such a glowing reputation. But could you help with the problem that my new friend is suffering with the discrimination that they are suffering at the not so gentle hands of the Stoke City security staff ? Apparently they disagree with my theory that they were the original cause of body searching.
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Post by Billy the kid on Dec 14, 2018 23:14:33 GMT
Unpopular as this may come across but our recent reputation has done us no favours. The security are not for my benefit or yours, but for a mass of people in a relatively small space. I would go as far to say it's inadequate.
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Post by kustokie on Dec 15, 2018 0:14:00 GMT
Turnstile searches - why ? I’m 69 supported since 1958 . I strongly object to being searched full stop. I’ve not been searched at Newcastle Rotherham and Crystal Palace which are the three awaydays I’ve done in last year. Surely your season ticket can include a non search icon ? Absolutely ridiculous to b searched. Are you seriously suggesting searches before boarding a plane should be optional? Of course not. The security on airlines has made them very hard targets. As a result, stadiums and other places where large numbers of people gather are very soft targets for terrorists.
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Post by onefatcopper on Dec 15, 2018 2:05:03 GMT
Turnstile searches - why ? I’m 69 supported since 1958 . I strongly object to being searched full stop. I’ve not been searched at Newcastle Rotherham and Crystal Palace which are the three awaydays I’ve done in last year. Surely your season ticket can include a non search icon ? Absolutely ridiculous to b searched. Are you seriously suggesting searches before boarding a plane should be optional? Of course not. The security on airlines has made them very hard targets. As a result, stadiums and other places where large numbers of people gather are very soft targets for terrorists. Well with the performances Stoke are serving up at the moment, the chances of large numbers of people turning up should take the Bet365 of any self respecting terrorist list .
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Post by 3putts on Dec 15, 2018 4:25:27 GMT
Turnstile searches - why ? I’m 69 supported since 1958 . I strongly object to being searched full stop. I’ve not been searched at Newcastle Rotherham and Crystal Palace which are the three awaydays I’ve done in last year. Surely your season ticket can include a non search icon ? Absolutely ridiculous to b searched. In the early 1970s when extreme violence was commonplace at football matches across the UK, you would have been in your early twenties, and so for public safety reasons YOU and your kind should be throughly searched . You could be some kind of “SLEEPER “ hooligan, just waiting for it to kick off ! How do we know what you could be carrying ? Sorry officer I was playing a round of golf this morning and forgot to take these balls out of my pocket, and yes it’s the same story with these darts 🎯. Dementia doesn’t pass as a excuse in court old timer, it’s because of you and your type that body searches were introduced in the first place ! shocking reply.the guy is 69 ffs he deserves some respect. I am guessing you became a stoke fan around 10 years ago.many of us have been around for a lot longer. "YOU AND YOUR TYPE" is utterly ridiculous do you know this gentleman? if not then I think you owe him an apolpogy.
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Post by onefatcopper on Dec 15, 2018 5:34:40 GMT
Well, dear oh, dear oh dear, I have upset the apple cart and touched a raw nerve with dare I say the fans of a finer vintage ! As to your questions, firstly, your assumption that I have only served the light sentence of 10 years is totally wrong ! No I’m in it for life and having served a paltry 44years, secondly, No I don’t know the contributor named “Ceejays” and I find it quite presumptive of you to refer to this person in the Male context, don’t you find in this day and age you are being a trifle sexist ? Ladies do attend matches now. As for respect, respect is to be earned and not to be taken for granted ! I would not bet against it’s because of YOU AND YOUR TYPE who have caused problems in the past, that now the younger generation of fans have to suffer the indignation of body searches ? Do you realise how much it’s cost the innocent taxpayers to police these matches, let alone the extra cost to the fans tickets because of stewards ! I think this serves as a warning to all the fans , don’t be fooled by the fans who declare that they have followed Stoke since Sir Stan came home, because they could well have been wearing 24hole Ox Blood Dr Marts in the day and chasing rival fans across the old training pitch !
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 15, 2018 8:40:30 GMT
In the early 1970s when extreme violence was commonplace at football matches across the UK, you would have been in your early twenties, and so for public safety reasons YOU and your kind should be throughly searched . You could be some kind of “SLEEPER “ hooligan, just waiting for it to kick off ! How do we know what you could be carrying ? Sorry officer I was playing a round of golf this morning and forgot to take these balls out of my pocket, and yes it’s the same story with these darts 🎯. Dementia doesn’t pass as a excuse in court old timer, it’s because of you and your type that body searches were introduced in the first place ! shocking reply.the guy is 69 ffs he deserves some respect. I am guessing you became a stoke fan around 10 years ago.many of us have been around for a lot longer. "YOU AND YOUR TYPE" is utterly ridiculous do you know this gentleman? if not then I think you owe him an apolpogy. I'm 72 and I have absolutely no problems with the idea of being searched entering a stadium - or any other place where there are large crowds which could be the target of terrorist attacks. Sadly, as others have said, the problem is not confined to terrorists - in any large crowd there is a good chance that a small minority of cretins will attempt to smuggle in fireworks, flares or knives or other offensive weapons. My main complaint is that if people are searched - even a "pat down" should be done properly. Some of the searches I have been subject to at footy grounds would have missed a weapon had I been the sort of idiot who would try to smuggle one in. So - to the security staff - if you are going to inconvenience me - at least do it in such a way that you will find what you are looking for - if it happens to be there.
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Post by ange1 on Dec 15, 2018 9:49:56 GMT
Having seen the number and type of items removed from people wishing to enter the stadium (along with the people carrying them) this season and in previous seasons, it is clear that searches serve a valuable purpose. We all know the system is not perfect, but like searches at airports, no one is treated exactly the same there either. The Council do ask for consistency on this at every meeting. If anyone can provide constructive solutions, please mail chair@scfcsc .
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Post by raythesailor on Dec 15, 2018 9:53:03 GMT
I think the searches are little to do with the 70’s but more to do with the rise in radical terrorissm and the terrible incident that almost happened INSIDE the Stadium de France in Paris.
In the 70’s many people of that age were playing the game and to blame that generation is just stupid.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Dec 15, 2018 11:06:15 GMT
Turnstile searches - why ? I’m 69 supported since 1958 . I strongly object to being searched full stop. I’ve not been searched at Newcastle Rotherham and Crystal Palace which are the three awaydays I’ve done in last year. Surely your season ticket can include a non search icon ? Absolutely ridiculous to b searched. Are you seriously suggesting searches before boarding a plane should be optional? Of course not. The security on airlines has made them very hard targets. As a result, stadiums and other places where large numbers of people gather are very soft targets for terrorists. I feel less secure due to the fact that I'm herded into a large slow moving line that any martyr can pick off at will, then I get a cursory stroke off a middle aged man when I reach the turnstile. You wouldn't need to target inside the stadium at all. Add to that the shambles that is the PA system which you cannot hear, bar last week when the false alarm requesting everyone leave the stadium was belting out. Amazing how quickly the stewards didn't react to that one. Be great to get the HSE down there to grill them.
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Post by danceswithclams on Dec 15, 2018 11:33:56 GMT
who the fuck is Anthony Emmerson ? Used to play for Middlesbrough in the 90s alongside his mate Dave Juninho.
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Post by nott1 on Dec 15, 2018 12:13:34 GMT
Sad that this is required at all, there are some morons in this world nowadays!
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Dec 23, 2018 11:11:02 GMT
I am surprised that, given that the meeting was after the very disturbing events at Vale Park, the only reference to it relates to a question about whether the club issued a statement. Was that really all that was discussed on it, or has the discussion been excluded from the minutes ? Good practice indicates that for games at which difficulties might be predicted, such as this game, there should be a pre-meeting involving the home ground safety officer, the police, the 2 clubs supporters liaison officers, and supporters representatives from both clubs, to discuss plans. If difficulties have occurred, as they certainly did in this case, there should be a similar post-match debrief ( as happened for example after the Preston away game when pava spray was used on the concourse). Apart from the pertinent issue of how much, if any, of the cost of the damage should be paid by Stoke City, which was very live at the time of the meeting, from my discussions with supporters who were there ( I wasn't) there are a number of other issues arising out of what happened, including, but not restricted to, why the away allocation was sold on 'sit anywhere' basis; and why the level of stewarding was insufficient to prevent removal of the netting by home fans netting off the end part of the home area. There is also the wider question of whether we should be in this competition at all. All of these are highly relevant topics for the Supporters Council, and it would be both surprising and disappointing if they weren't discussed at the meeting. Most of the rest of the items are customer care issues, some of which one hopes shouldn't need to wait until a meeting to be tackled. But there are other issues which fans are complaining about such as the wide range of prices and concessionary rates for away fans in this Division. The EFL is a member organisation, i.e its policies are decided by the Clubs themselves, and, obviously, our club is a voting member. Clubs often fall back on the ' it's a league rule' defence without recognising their own role in making those rules. The issue discussed in the meeting about order of sales for blocks of away tickets is a case in point. When it is quite clear that the away club will use most or all of its full allocation, the EFL rule is unnecessary.
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Dec 23, 2018 20:59:03 GMT
I am surprised that, given that the meeting was after the very disturbing events at Vale Park, the only reference to it relates to a question about whether the club issued a statement. Was that really all that was discussed on it, or has the discussion been excluded from the minutes ? Good practice indicates that for games at which difficulties might be predicted, such as this game, there should be a pre-meeting involving the home ground safety officer, the police, the 2 clubs supporters liaison officers, and supporters representatives from both clubs, to discuss plans. If difficulties have occurred, as they certainly did in this case, there should be a similar post-match debrief ( as happened for example after the Preston away game when pava spray was used on the concourse). Apart from the pertinent issue of how much, if any, of the cost of the damage should be paid by Stoke City, which was very live at the time of the meeting, from my discussions with supporters who were there ( I wasn't) there are a number of other issues arising out of what happened, including, but not restricted to, why the away allocation was sold on 'sit anywhere' basis; and why the level of stewarding was insufficient to prevent removal of the netting by home fans netting off the end part of the home area. There is also the wider question of whether we should be in this competition at all. All of these are highly relevant topics for the Supporters Council, and it would be both surprising and disappointing if they weren't discussed at the meeting. Most of the rest of the items are customer care issues, some of which one hopes shouldn't need to wait until a meeting to be tackled. But there are other issues which fans are complaining about such as the wide range of prices and concessionary rates for away fans in this Division. The EFL is a member organisation, i.e its policies are decided by the Clubs themselves, and, obviously, our club is a voting member. Clubs often fall back on the ' it's a league rule' defence without recognising their own role in making those rules. The issue discussed in the meeting about order of sales for blocks of away tickets is a case in point. When it is quite clear that the away club will use most or all of its full allocation, the EFL rule is unnecessary. Disappointed to to read this one. It seems to read very rushed and lacking clarity, almost as if the meeting was a bit of an inconvenience that day (reminding me of a number of meetings where the chair just wanted to get through it and get back to work. Im sure it wasn’t that obvious, but answers were lacking in detail, were very ‚slopey shouldered‘ in their responses (email so and so, so and so‘s responsibility (not mine), and very „right what’s the next point?“ I feel sorry for Ange and the rest of the council that these were the answers given, even though they were probably made to feel welcome as normal.
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Post by ursemboys on Dec 23, 2018 21:03:58 GMT
Turnstile searches - why ? I’m 69 supported since 1958 . I strongly object to being searched full stop. I’ve not been searched at Newcastle Rotherham and Crystal Palace which are the three awaydays I’ve done in last year. Surely your season ticket can include a non search icon ? Absolutely ridiculous to b searched. In the early 1970s when extreme violence was commonplace at football matches across the UK, you would have been in your early twenties, and so for public safety reasons YOU and your kind should be throughly searched . You could be some kind of “SLEEPER “ hooligan, just waiting for it to kick off ! How do we know what you could be carrying ? Sorry officer I was playing a round of golf this morning and forgot to take these balls out of my pocket, and yes it’s the same story with these darts 🎯. Dementia doesn’t pass as a excuse in court old timer, it’s because of you and your type that body searches were introduced in the first place ! Brill loved that response lol
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