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Martina
Dec 8, 2018 17:41:31 GMT
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Post by camstoke10 on Dec 8, 2018 17:41:31 GMT
He was shocking today, can’t cross and can’t defend, always out of position, Edwards in next game, younger and knows how to cross a ball
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 8, 2018 17:47:17 GMT
I didn’t think he was that bad and certainly no worse than Ryan. As I posted last week the defence is what’s costing us at the moment. Our midfield are doing to much work for them.
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Post by ProctorDre on Dec 8, 2018 17:52:55 GMT
He’s a fucking terrible footballer.
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Martina
Dec 8, 2018 17:57:12 GMT
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Post by lordb on Dec 8, 2018 17:57:12 GMT
He's not a great player for sure however thought he was OK today.
Prefer Edwards mind.
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Martina
Dec 8, 2018 18:34:27 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 8, 2018 18:34:27 GMT
How he’s made a living as a footballer at the top level is beyond me
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 8, 2018 18:41:06 GMT
Problem is when the opposition have a pacy winger Edwards struggles even more! I would like to see Bauer get another chance, but maybe we need a new right back.
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Post by dastokie on Dec 8, 2018 18:47:15 GMT
Bring back Bauer.
Martina the man is terrible.
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Post by loosestools on Dec 8, 2018 19:20:24 GMT
His throw ins are an embarrassment.
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Post by xchpotter on Dec 8, 2018 19:23:14 GMT
Problem is when the opposition have a pacy winger Edwards struggles even more! I would like to see Bauer get another chance, but maybe we need a new right back. Reckon Bauer could go to Southampton with the Austrian connection.
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Post by TexasPotter on Dec 8, 2018 19:27:33 GMT
Edwards and Martina don't instill confidence in defense both have massive issues. I prefer the Martina for this season at home, but Edwards is clearly offering potential. I'd start Edwards away, depends on the poison you like. Mind you, Ipswich had no threat at Martina today so there is that.
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Post by thehoof on Dec 8, 2018 20:07:04 GMT
I didn’t think he was that bad and certainly no worse than Ryan. As I posted last week the defence is what’s costing us at the moment. Our midfield are doing to much work for them. What did Shawcross do wrong today- oh sorry, he was playing. Give it a rest Cobham - okay you don’t like him, but what mistakes are we hanging him out to dry for today?
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 8, 2018 20:09:31 GMT
Problem is when the opposition have a pacy winger Edwards struggles even more! I would like to see Bauer get another chance, but maybe we need a new right back. Reckon Bauer could go to Southampton with the Austrian connection. At least that would give us the money to improve this position quite a bit.
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Martina
Dec 8, 2018 20:14:01 GMT
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Post by VolvicStokie on Dec 8, 2018 20:14:01 GMT
Crazy to think Bauer and Bojan cant get in this team, useless folk like Cuco and Benik play every week.
Berahino is head and shoulders our best forward and he's shunted on the wing essentially, and Bauer is picking up a fat cheque every week all the while Cuco can't fucking cross, defend or remotely look like a footballer.
Rowett is starting to puzzle me, especially with the Bojan cold shoulder situation that's arisen
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 20:42:14 GMT
This right back signing was just weird, we had two perfectly capable right backs at the club.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 22:00:36 GMT
Every aerial cross I've seen him hit sits in the air for a small eternity, almost to the point the opposition FC on the other side of the field probably has enough time to get back and head it clear.
But then gain his low, fast, flat cross on the carpet gave us three points against Norwich.
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Post by ursems2boots on Dec 8, 2018 22:01:41 GMT
The management team consider Martina to be a better option than Bauer or Edwards at the moment.... I mean they will be saying there are better creative options than Bojan in squad next...
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Post by TexasPotter on Dec 9, 2018 0:59:53 GMT
Crazy to think Bauer and Bojan cant get in this team, useless folk like Cuco and Benik play every week. Berahino is head and shoulders our best forward and he's shunted on the wing essentially, and Bauer is picking up a fat cheque every week all the while Cuco can't fucking cross, defend or remotely look like a footballer. Rowett is starting to puzzle me, especially with the Bojan cold shoulder situation that's arisen Shit, he's puzzled me since his first few weeks here! He's made no tactical or logical sense on selection due to form at all... Benik (poacher /finisher) left in no mans land, Cuco (can't cross) Martina up and down in form for him to add in Edwards good for a match before a nightmare (atleast he's young and has potential) and McClean (too many problems to list, he's just fucking shit on huge wages) are nailed on without merit it seems to the detriment of formation or any attack. Bera, being thrown to the wing is baffling he's turned him into "Allen of the wing" as is everything else this season Rowett touches. Allen is a weekly conundrum, even our own players don't know where his position is mid match, or what he does, but he showed up in a good position today and it paid off tapping one in. Doesn't happen each week sadly we end up drawing. Ince deserves his weekly praise, the one great addition to the team. Clean, tidy, flair, creativity. Pity he's the only one allowed to have that in Rowett's Stoke. Verdict is still out on Clucas, but seems unfit due to injury and he looks good, better than McClean on the wing. Can pass and play in Midfield. Not much to not like so far. Woods has been very good so far perhaps best addition in sense of instant help for the back four, but stumbled today. Bojan and Bauer's cold shoulder makes no sense when you're struggling to create and have flair at home (barring Ince) then letting teams comeback with possession and the eventual draw where we drop 2 points.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 9, 2018 1:49:07 GMT
This right back signing was just weird, we had two perfectly capable right backs at the club. Bauer has shown he isn't, saying that it seems Martina isn't exactly reliable, he's very hit and miss, decent enough back up at this level but not good enough as a starter for a team hoping for top 6.
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Martina
Dec 9, 2018 1:50:34 GMT
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 9, 2018 1:50:34 GMT
Just brush personal issues aside and play Bauer.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 9, 2018 1:50:46 GMT
Crazy to think Bauer and Bojan cant get in this team, useless folk like Cuco and Benik play every week. Berahino is head and shoulders our best forward and he's shunted on the wing essentially, and Bauer is picking up a fat cheque every week all the while Cuco can't fucking cross, defend or remotely look like a footballer. Rowett is starting to puzzle me, especially with the Bojan cold shoulder situation that's arisen He won't have seen anything good of Bauer since he's been here, shocking performances and getting called out by players for claiming things he hasn't been doing won't have helped.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 9, 2018 1:52:32 GMT
Just brush personal issues aside and play Bauer. Are we to ignore his shit performances too, would much rather him sold and to find a replacement if need be.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Dec 9, 2018 8:12:09 GMT
Martina...whose idea was it to bring him to the Club in the first place?
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Martina
Dec 9, 2018 9:10:38 GMT
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Post by walrus on Dec 9, 2018 9:10:38 GMT
Crazy to think Bauer and Bojan cant get in this team, useless folk like Cuco and Benik play every week. Berahino is head and shoulders our best forward and he's shunted on the wing essentially, and Bauer is picking up a fat cheque every week all the while Cuco can't fucking cross, defend or remotely look like a footballer. Rowett is starting to puzzle me, especially with the Bojan cold shoulder situation that's arisen Shit, he's puzzled me since his first few weeks here! He's made no tactical or logical sense on selection due to form at all... Benik (poacher /finisher) left in no mans land, Cuco (can't cross) Martina up and down in form for him to add in Edwards good for a match before a nightmare (atleast he's young and has potential) and McClean (too many problems to list, he's just fucking shit on huge wages) are nailed on without merit it seems to the detriment of formation or any attack. Bera, being thrown to the wing is baffling he's turned him into "Allen of the wing" as is everything else this season Rowett touches. Allen is a weekly conundrum, even our own players don't know where his position is mid match, or what he does, but he showed up in a good position today and it paid off tapping one in. Doesn't happen each week sadly we end up drawing. Ince deserves his weekly praise, the one great addition to the team. Clean, tidy, flair, creativity. Pity he's the only one allowed to have that in Rowett's Stoke. Verdict is still out on Clucas, but seems unfit due to injury and he looks good, better than McClean on the wing. Can pass and play in Midfield. Not much to not like so far. Woods has been very good so far perhaps best addition in sense of instant help for the back four, but stumbled today. Bojan and Bauer's cold shoulder makes no sense when you're struggling to create and have flair at home (barring Ince) then letting teams comeback with possession and the eventual draw where we drop 2 points. I agree with pretty much all of that but “tapping one on” is a harsh assessment of what was an excellent first time finish from Allen on his weaker foot and the one bit of actual quality in the match.
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Martina
Dec 9, 2018 9:23:02 GMT
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Post by adi on Dec 9, 2018 9:23:02 GMT
He was shocking today, can’t cross and can’t defend, always out of position, Edwards in next game, younger and knows how to cross a ball Edwards isn’t any better tho unfortunately
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Post by emmbrook1956 on Dec 9, 2018 10:31:54 GMT
I didn’t think he was that bad and certainly no worse than Ryan. As I posted last week the defence is what’s costing us at the moment. Our midfield are doing to much work for them. What did Shawcross do wrong today- oh sorry, he was playing. Give it a rest Cobham - okay you don’t like him, but what mistakes are we hanging him out to dry for today? And also Cobham does not go to matches very often!
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Post by clarkeda on Dec 9, 2018 13:59:41 GMT
Really fucks me off that he gets to the half way line, stops and passes sideways
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 9, 2018 14:52:32 GMT
I'm not impressed by Martina, but Edwards looks really shaky every time he meets a pacy winger. In my opinion I can't see any of the two as our future right back/wing back, and that is why I think Bauer should be given another go. If not we really should start looking for a replacement for this position.
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Martina
Dec 9, 2018 16:37:33 GMT
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Dec 9, 2018 16:37:33 GMT
Young lads will never build a career in the game when players like him are in the way . Edwards has potential to be a good championship full back or better , he will make mistakes but will improve,this guy will remain bang average, complete waste of a loan signing .
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Martina
Dec 9, 2018 16:44:01 GMT
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 9, 2018 16:44:01 GMT
Martina and Williams were both shockingly shit when they arrived, Williams has improved considerably, Martina is still shockingly shit!
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Dec 9, 2018 16:44:28 GMT
He shite every week - although the first 5/10 minutes aside I thought he did well going forward yesterday with Ince.
I don't know if anyone else saw, but just before they walked in after the warm-up before the game he and Fletcher were having a few shots at the empty net - and he scored a corker from about 30 yards - crossbar and in, Fletcher gave him a right good clapping!
Stick him up front, because he can't defend for shit.
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