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Post by PotteringThrough on Nov 28, 2018 22:02:59 GMT
I quite enjoyed him throwing his weight around tonight.
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Nov 28, 2018 22:08:57 GMT
Williams was a beast tonight. Shawcross was good but Williams was immense.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Nov 28, 2018 22:09:42 GMT
Williams was incredible tonight.
Simply immense.
He’s getting better game by game after a very poor start
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Post by liathroid on Nov 28, 2018 22:09:49 GMT
needed both to do it
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Post by shipshape on Nov 28, 2018 22:13:55 GMT
Williams was outstanding. I've criticised him a lot and the decision to sign him but that was a fantastic performance.
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Post by robwahlmann on Nov 28, 2018 22:21:41 GMT
I couldn't find a link tonight, but my boys said Williams was immense. Credit when credit is due.  |
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Nov 28, 2018 22:22:48 GMT
Williams was outstanding. I've criticised him a lot and the decision to sign him but that was a fantastic performance. He looked 6 years younger tonight! His reading of the game was superb. |
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Post by shipshape on Nov 28, 2018 22:27:21 GMT
Williams was outstanding. I've criticised him a lot and the decision to sign him but that was a fantastic performance. He looked 6 years younger tonight! His reading of the game was superb. I've always said he can read the game well. Just thought he didn't have the legs any more. He's no long term solution but I'll give credit where it's due. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 19, 2018 19:35:06 GMT
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Post by RF10 on Dec 19, 2018 20:41:08 GMT
Just wait till he makes a mistake so all the so called experts can continue to post drivel.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 19, 2018 22:22:41 GMT
LEGEND.
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Post by DentySCFC on Dec 19, 2018 22:29:23 GMT
Legend.
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Post by robstokie on Dec 19, 2018 22:32:07 GMT
What can i say? Top professional and a Stoke Legend - maybe not the player he was a few years ago, but still gives this club 110% on the pitch and a great ambassador for us off it too.
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Post by Gob Bluth on Dec 19, 2018 23:04:37 GMT
I bloody love Ryan, I hope to see him climb the table of top appearances at Stoke. I doubt I'll see anyone in my lifetime achieve all that he has with the club, leading us into Europe, an FA cup final, a return to the top flight after a couple of decades away. I suspect I won't see anyone notch the number of appearances he has and in that light I'll look forward to watching the remaining years he gives us.
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Post by boru on Dec 19, 2018 23:44:43 GMT
Played a bad part in our relegation as well, we need better
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2018 7:04:31 GMT
Played a bad part in our relegation as well, we need better Bore off troll |
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Post by wagsastokie on Dec 20, 2018 7:35:09 GMT
Played a bad part in our relegation as well, we need better Bore off troll Troll maybe but a truthful one |
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Post by thehoof on Dec 20, 2018 9:19:16 GMT
Troll maybe but a truthful one Same goes for Butland,Pieters, BMI, Allen,Fletcher, Crouch,Berahino,Adam and anybody else left from last year’s team- or was it Shawcross on his own who got us relegated? |
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Post by wagsastokie on Dec 20, 2018 10:39:26 GMT
Troll maybe but a truthful one Same goes for Butland,Pieters, BMI, Allen,Fletcher, Crouch,Berahino,Adam and anybody else left from last year’s team- or was it Shawcross on his own who got us relegated? No you’re right the whole lot of them should hang there heads in shame Maybe with the exception of Allen and crouch |
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Post by adi on Dec 20, 2018 13:05:05 GMT
Just wait till he makes a mistake so all the so called experts can continue to post drivel. What drivel are you specifically speaking of? Also, why was he dropped? |
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Post by RF10 on Dec 20, 2018 13:46:41 GMT
Just wait till he makes a mistake so all the so called experts can continue to post drivel. What drivel are you specifically speaking of? Also, why was he dropped? He was dropped due to a few poor performances, quite rightly. The claims that he is finished / past it and in general scapegoat comments are utter drivel. Seems like some people have created an agenda for some bizarre reason. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2018 20:07:25 GMT
What drivel are you specifically speaking of? Also, why was he dropped? He was dropped due to a few poor performances, quite rightly. The claims that he is finished / past it and in general scapegoat comments are utter drivel. Seems like some people have created an agenda for some bizarre reason. Ahh the old agenda comment, never gets tiresome. Maybe just maybe people have realised that when he's played over the last 18 months he has been poor apart from the odd exception. You don't need an agenda to say a player needs replacing, regardless how long they have been at the club. Only a blind fan boy would suggest otherwise and they're even worse than the people you describe. He's slow, easily turned and positionally not that great. Add to that his only ability on the ball is to punt it up top to nobody. Don't get me wrong he's been a great servant but if this club wants to move forward then he is one of a few that need replacing. |
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Dec 20, 2018 20:53:30 GMT
He was dropped due to a few poor performances, quite rightly. The claims that he is finished / past it and in general scapegoat comments are utter drivel. Seems like some people have created an agenda for some bizarre reason. Ahh the old agenda comment, never gets tiresome. Maybe just maybe people have realised that when he's played over the last 18 months he has been poor apart from the odd exception. You don't need an agenda to say a player needs replacing, regardless how long they have been at the club. Only a blind fan boy would suggest otherwise and they're even worse than the people you describe. He's slow, easily turned and positionally not that great. Add to that his only ability on the ball is to punt it up top to nobody. Don't get me wrong he's been a great servant but if this club wants to move forward then he is one of a few that need replacing. Fair comments, I’d add that he still has the cliched ‘footballing brain’ and deserves to be spoken about in positive terminology purely based on respect for his service/best years at Stoke. Club Legend, we don’t have better currently but does need replacing sooner than later |
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Post by RF10 on Dec 20, 2018 22:06:54 GMT
He was dropped due to a few poor performances, quite rightly. The claims that he is finished / past it and in general scapegoat comments are utter drivel. Seems like some people have created an agenda for some bizarre reason. Ahh the old agenda comment, never gets tiresome. Maybe just maybe people have realised that when he's played over the last 18 months he has been poor apart from the odd exception. You don't need an agenda to say a player needs replacing, regardless how long they have been at the club. Only a blind fan boy would suggest otherwise and they're even worse than the people you describe. He's slow, easily turned and positionally not that great. Add to that his only ability on the ball is to punt it up top to nobody. Don't get me wrong he's been a great servant but if this club wants to move forward then he is one of a few that need replacing. It's true there does seem to be an agenda at the moment. By that I mean at the slightest mistake he seems to get slaughted, this is was pisses me off. It doesn't take a genius to work out he's not the player he was. If he was he wouldn't be here. Also it doesn't take a genius to understand we will need to identify a long term replacement sooner rather than later. At the moment he's far from past it as he is currently proving on the pìtch. |
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Dec 20, 2018 22:32:05 GMT
Played a bad part in our relegation as well, we need better Off you pop pal. Good effort but not quite good enough SGS |
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Post by kustokie on Dec 20, 2018 22:41:01 GMT
Troll maybe but a truthful one Same goes for Butland,Pieters, BMI, Allen,Fletcher, Crouch,Berahino,Adam and anybody else left from last year’s team- or was it Shawcross on his own who got us relegated? I’d say about 10% players and 90% management (aka manglement). correction: more like 1% players, 99% manglement. Unfortunately for us and the players some of les incompetents are still there. |
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Post by thehoof on Dec 20, 2018 23:04:03 GMT
He was dropped due to a few poor performances, quite rightly. The claims that he is finished / past it and in general scapegoat comments are utter drivel. Seems like some people have created an agenda for some bizarre reason. Ahh the old agenda comment, never gets tiresome. Maybe just maybe people have realised that when he's played over the last 18 months he has been poor apart from the odd exception. You don't need an agenda to say a player needs replacing, regardless how long they have been at the club. Only a blind fan boy would suggest otherwise and they're even worse than the people you describe. He's slow, easily turned and positionally not that great. Add to that his only ability on the ball is to punt it up top to nobody. Don't get me wrong he's been a great servant but if this club wants to move forward then he is one of a few that need replacing. You can make those exact same points about Williams and BMI- however 2 out of 3 have to play. |
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Post by boru on Dec 21, 2018 1:25:13 GMT
Played a bad part in our relegation as well, we need better Off you pop pal. Good effort but not quite good enough SGS It is the truth, worse defence in the world for professional football players last year, and terrible again this season. Suits making the present and last manager play him. |
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Post by kustokie on Dec 21, 2018 2:02:03 GMT
Off you pop pal. Good effort but not quite good enough SGS It is the truth, worse defence in the world for professional football players last year, and terrible again this season. Suits making the present and last manager play him. We are 8th in the Championship in goals against, which is not terrible. We are where are because we throw away leads too easily by conceding silly goals and miss too many chances. |
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Post by boru on Dec 21, 2018 2:10:27 GMT
It is the truth, worse defence in the world for professional football players last year, and terrible again this season. Suits making the present and last manager play him. We are 8th in the Championship in goals against, which is not terrible. We are where are because we throw away leads too easily by conceding silly goals and miss too many chances. Agree about conceding silly goals, which effects the midfield and forwards play. We desperately need at least one center half |
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