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Post by ursemboys on Nov 9, 2018 19:07:51 GMT
How many times has this been said, he has no issue with the minutes silence its the poppy that's the issue . Why wasn't he stood with the rest of the subs and staff during last week's formalities then? No Idea ,perhaps he was trying keep a low profile ,he has said himself that he has no issues and has stood in the minutes silence before . |
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Post by salopstick on Nov 9, 2018 19:08:35 GMT
That’s like my kids telling me sorry and they they will be good.
Lasts 5 minutes.
He can fuck off
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Post by Davef on Nov 9, 2018 19:10:09 GMT
Why wasn't he stood with the rest of the subs and staff during last week's formalities then? No Idea ,perhaps he was trying keep a low profile ,he has said himself that he has no issues and has stood in the minutes silence before . Well he could've kept a low profile by standing at the back, bowing his head and then taking his seat on the bench, not by walking on his own up the touch line while everyone was in place. |
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Post by ursemboys on Nov 9, 2018 19:11:27 GMT
No Idea ,perhaps he was trying keep a low profile ,he has said himself that he has no issues and has stood in the minutes silence before . Well he could've kept a low profile by standing at the back, bowing his head and then taking his seat on the bench, not by walking on his own up the touch line while everyone was in place. True cannot argue with that . |
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Post by skip on Nov 9, 2018 19:19:07 GMT
Its not even an apology doubt he's even said that himself - the club have put it out - and tried to brush it all under the carpet absolute disgrace of a club - should never wear a stoke shirt again - no mention of his terrorist quotes - what if he was quoting bin laden and refusing to wear the poppy because afghan civilians were bombed - rowett pushed for this signing in the summer - we all knew what was coming - all for a shit over priced 29 year old with no sell on value too Absolutely, it's grammarly correct for a start  grammatically. (only joshing. but it is grammatically). |
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Nov 9, 2018 19:44:19 GMT
Just a little thought, what would happen if someone went to Celtic and insisted on wearing a poppy on their shirt?
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Post by kjpt140v on Nov 9, 2018 19:53:47 GMT
We don't know what it feels like but the relevance today is a lot of the Irish population believe they are under occupation. Wow, I would suggest they join up with the other lot then! I think you are proving to be out of your depth on this one. What do you think the troubles have been about? It's a miracle we have this uneasy peace. |
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Post by milky on Nov 9, 2018 19:55:22 GMT
You just know that Rowett cant wait to hand in that team sheet tomorrow with McClean in the starting eleven.
For what its worth I think he would have picked him even if Ince was available.
Im sure the club will be monitoring the situation as per so shouldnt need to be concerned.
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Post by stantheman on Nov 9, 2018 19:56:29 GMT
Just a little thought, what would happen if someone went to Celtic and insisted on wearing a poppy on their shirt? Very good question. In all seriousness it must be part of the contract where they say 'we don't, and you won't, although I would love to see this happen it never will. |
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Post by kjpt140v on Nov 9, 2018 19:59:40 GMT
We don't know what it feels like but the relevance today is a lot of the Irish population believe they are under occupation. Wow, I would suggest they join up with the other lot then! I think you are proving to be out of your depth on this one. What do you think the troubles have been about? It's a miracle we have this uneasy peace. |
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Post by Eggybread on Nov 9, 2018 20:05:06 GMT
Just a little thought, what would happen if someone went to Celtic and insisted on wearing a poppy on their shirt? Celtic have put a poppy on their shirt almost every year since the UK reached peak poppy fascism a few years back www.celticfc.net/news/11573 |
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Nov 9, 2018 20:07:49 GMT
My parents taught me that respect was a two way street and both parties had to earn it. So sorry James, much more work to be done.
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Post by numpty40 on Nov 9, 2018 20:09:35 GMT
Just a little thought, what would happen if someone went to Celtic and insisted on wearing a poppy on their shirt? Celtic have put a poppy on their shirt almost every year since the UK reached peak poppy fascism a few years back www.celticfc.net/news/11573So that's all we need, even Celtic won't want him. |
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Post by mickey4137 on Nov 9, 2018 20:11:57 GMT
Its not even an apology doubt he's even said that himself - the club have put it out - and tried to brush it all under the carpet absolute disgrace of a club - should never wear a stoke shirt again - no mention of his terrorist quotes - what if he was quoting bin laden and refusing to wear the poppy because afghan civilians were bombed - rowett pushed for this signing in the summer - we all knew what was coming - all for a shit over priced 29 year old with no sell on value too Bobby Sands isnt the same as Osama Bin Laden mate.. |
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Post by numpty40 on Nov 9, 2018 20:15:25 GMT
Its not even an apology doubt he's even said that himself - the club have put it out - and tried to brush it all under the carpet absolute disgrace of a club - should never wear a stoke shirt again - no mention of his terrorist quotes - what if he was quoting bin laden and refusing to wear the poppy because afghan civilians were bombed - rowett pushed for this signing in the summer - we all knew what was coming - all for a shit over priced 29 year old with no sell on value too Bobby Sands isnt the same as Osama Bin Laden mate.. Are we talking effective terrorists here? |
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Nov 9, 2018 20:20:02 GMT
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Post by numpty40 on Nov 9, 2018 20:24:45 GMT
So that's all we need, even Celtic won't want him. Hang on, glimmer of hope again. |
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Post by mickey4137 on Nov 9, 2018 20:26:41 GMT
Bobby Sands isnt the same as Osama Bin Laden mate.. Are we talking effective terrorists here? Terrorist is a pejorative term. He's comparing two people. One of whom was responsible for the death of thousands of people, was on the most wanted list for a decade and the founder and leader of al-Qaeda. The other blew up a furniture shop and died in prison. |
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Post by numpty40 on Nov 9, 2018 20:31:00 GMT
Are we talking effective terrorists here? Terrorist is a pejorative term. He's comparing two people. One of whom was responsible for the death of thousands of people, was on the most wanted list for a decade and the founder and leader of al-Qaeda. The other blew up a furniture shop and died in prison. So Bin Laden was more effective than Bobby Sands? |
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Post by creweoatcake1 on Nov 9, 2018 20:52:18 GMT
How many times has this been said, he has no issue with the minutes silence its the poppy that's the issue . Why wasn't he stood with the rest of the subs and staff during last week's formalities then? As someone said earlier in the thread, he now has a 4 year multi million pound contract and is made for life! He can and will push this issue to whatever level He feels like, This hasn't been about the poppy for a while, he obviously has his own agenda, which was there for all to see last week! (I stand to be corrected tomorrow of course)! Todays statement from the club is an absolute sham, only surprise is that took them a week to come up with something that actually says nothing! As for the manager ..... Baur anyone? |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Nov 9, 2018 20:54:56 GMT
He should apologise for all of those crosses he keeps putting in the stands and then we can all draw a line under it... God should apologise for sending his only son, who ironically ended up on a cross, without that, none of this would have happened! |
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Post by salopstick on Nov 9, 2018 21:06:52 GMT
Just a little thought, what would happen if someone went to Celtic and insisted on wearing a poppy on their shirt? Very good question. In all seriousness it must be part of the contract where they say 'we don't, and you won't, although I would love to see this happen it never will. Brenda wore one at Liverpool but not at Celtic. |
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Post by samba :) on Nov 9, 2018 21:08:11 GMT
He did what a lot of fans did who arrived during the min silence ,he walked to the dug out in silence but some people just want to make out he was doing cartwheels and waving a IRA flag . Also I wouldn't be happy if fans where calling me a terrorist ,also how many people have no issues with that knob Corbyn getting all pally and close with terrorist's supporters also how many people supported Mandella who I agree was a great man but had terrorist links, if we want we can find something to beat anyone with ,he thanks the stoke fans for supporting him, he dropped a clanger with his quote the day after ,though I agree with the caveman quote. Maclean dropped a bollock by doing what he did because he just gave the fans who just want to give him grief more ammo to do this. Also someone said they heard no singing quoting fuck the IRA etc ,are you deaf ? Mclean should have just ignored it because I am sure he is well used to it . Matic apparently did it the right way by saying nowt , Mclean said nowt until he was given shitload of abuse ,had a flag waved at him and things thrown at him .but again its just an excuse to give him more grief . If he plays this weekend then has a stoke player he will get my support even if he is not playing to well at the min (I think Ince is worse ),I really don't give a shit what he does after he takes his top off . And the reason McClean couldn't walk out with the rest of the substitutes and coaching staff is what exactly? He's an attention seeker who should decide whether he wants to be a political activist or a professional footballer. Did he not walk out until after the minutes silence? |
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Post by thebet365 on Nov 9, 2018 21:26:12 GMT
The main thing that I can't forgive over all this is that he's still obviously not sorry for what he's done.
Forget the poppy business, last week was all about 100 years since the end of WW1, The last post, the speech on the tannoy was all about WW1.
He had no reason to not be out there with everyone (minus the poppy) going through the precedings as a representative of our club.
You can't control morons that want to sing and shout whatever they want at a football match, but as a proffesional earning more money than most can only dream of there are certain standards you have to uphold.
This isn't some spur of the moment outburst on the cameras a few seconds after the whistle has gone, he's gone home and decided what to post in retaliation and chose his words to cause the most uproar. Now that is unacceptable no matter who it was aimed at and he should be apologising to everyone for unprofessional behaviour.
He shouldn't be anywhere near the squad this weekend, Rowett is a coward.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Nov 9, 2018 21:36:21 GMT
Would you be so kind as to clarify your point of view/opinion before I respond? I’m not Irish but I’d like to respond in a reasoned manner if you’re saying what I think you are Cheers Hi my response is not directed at any one individual ,it was a response has to why thousands flood to these shores and even after welcoming them they still don't like us and take to the streets to put us down when ever they can and we just stand and watch . I am not Irish, born in North staffs but do have Irish ancestry (great great great grandfather was stationed on the west coast and great great grandfather was born there to a Irish mother (1800's) Thanks for your reply FACT I have the privilege of knowing a family from Ireland who settled in our City (Hanley) many years ago. They, over a number of decades (please note) have not only embraced Stoke on Trent as a second home but have contributed to our community which has led to international, national and local recognition. There is no doubt that European and national investment would not have found its way to our City without their foresight and support. Their siblings continue to uphold the same vales as they are from the same mould. Their family values, business acumen and ethical trading stands the test today, as is their continued support for the vulnerable youngsters in our society. I won’t provide specific examples as I don’t believe social media is the right medium. You’ll just have to take the sincerity of my post as truthful I won’t go on. “Take to the streets”. Don’t be bashful, provide examples. My life has certainly benefitted from my associations with the family, even be it they are of Southern Irish stock. We really do need to focus our attention within before we start throwing stones. ” |
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Post by foxysgloves on Nov 9, 2018 22:16:04 GMT
History doesn’t matter? Fair enough. History does matter and people should know its lessons. One of the most important is that you shouldn't insist on punishing people endlessly for the sins of their ancestors. We've forgiven the Germans for World War 2 (most of us) yet masochists want us all to bear responsibility for things that happened 200 years ago and longer. You might disagree, but first off get in touch with Mama Sidibe to chew him out about Mansa Musa. I don’t want that at all. But nor do I want us to forget what and who came before. You can’t pick and choose (although politicians obviously do) when it comes to history. As a nation we have a glorious history but there’s also the dark side. A failure to acknowledge either is wrong in equal measure. |
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Post by PotteringThrough on Nov 9, 2018 22:33:09 GMT
Why wasn't he stood with the rest of the subs and staff during last week's formalities then? As someone said earlier in the thread, he now has a 4 year multi million pound contract and is made for life! He can and will push this issue to whatever level He feels like I thank you ... |
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Post by karl on Nov 9, 2018 22:33:26 GMT
I am sure if he is on the bench tomorrow he will walk down the tunnel during the minute silence. Don't pick him tomorrow
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Post by ursemboys on Nov 9, 2018 22:42:29 GMT
I am sure if he is on the bench tomorrow he will walk down the tunnel during the minute silence. Don't pick him tomorrow Also sure they're will be loads without a poppy and still arriving at there seats during the silence. |
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Post by tosh on Nov 9, 2018 23:01:22 GMT
I am sure if he is on the bench tomorrow he will walk down the tunnel during the minute silence. Don't pick him tomorrow Also sure they're will be loads without a poppy and still arriving at there seats during the silence. Yes, but they’re mostly straggler supporters arriving late, most of whom stand and wait before moving their seats. He is already there publicly representing the club, and apparently deliberately making a point. |
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