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Post by felonious on Oct 10, 2018 11:33:50 GMT
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 10, 2018 11:40:16 GMT
Quite shocked that the high court has used common sense And not continued to ram this equality bullshit down everyone’s throat
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2018 11:53:59 GMT
How very dare they
I bet it has a soggy bottom tho
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Post by metalhead on Oct 10, 2018 13:23:15 GMT
Quite shocked that the high court has used common sense And not continued to ram this equality bullshit down everyone’s throat We need equality. The real problem is, we already have equality.... pretty much anyway. This SJW 'modern equality' usually involves infringing on someone else's rights. Equality for those more equal I guess. Just a few things though.... Oh and by the way, the Beeb have already run two articles on it in just under 2 hours, so we can see where their political token is being placed. Firstly, I noticed this (from the BBC article): Gay rights activist eh.....? And the slogan on the cake was "Support Gay Marriage" and the bakery involved proudly and openly discusses their Christian roots both in-store and on their website..... Right-o, so it's pretty obvious that this was a setup from start to finish. Gareth probably sits on his computer Googling "Christian Pizza Parlour", "Christian Pub", "Christian Bakers", with the sole intention of doing this. He wouldn't be the first and he won't be the last. Show's you the kind of person we are dealing with here. An utterly deplorable shit house. The implications are, Gareth, rather than intentionally politicising your Sunday dessert by heading to a proudly religious Christian baker and asking them to make a cake which will obviously conflict with their strongly held beliefs, you use the baker 100 yards down the road which don't give a shit what you order. I'm sure they'll happily take your business and I'm sure Ashers will happily swerve it.... Great eh? The problem is, like some kind of weird fascist dictator, Gareth wants to enforce his beliefs on everyone else and if they don't agree, sue the fuck off them. Then from this article: www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/oct/10/uk-supreme-court-backs-bakery-that-refused-to-make-gay-wedding-cakeO-M-F-G..... common sense and understanding from a judge. I had to double check that I wasn't suffering from some kind of eye infection... As I said in my first sentence, this is modern equality. The act of forcing people to think like you and calling them a racist, sexist, homophobe if they don't. Yep, 100% correct and the irony is, they have already stated that they had no issue making the cake for a gay man. They have openly stated that as good Christian's, they would have happily made them a cake, regardless of their sexuality. They had an issue making a cake with that slogan because ultimately by doing so, they are endorsing it.... and I totally agree with them. What it boils down to is this: It had nothing to do with the fact he was gay. I suspect had the cake slogan been "I <3 Brad" and the customer was obviously a man, these Christian bakers would have had no problem producing the cake. What Gareth, the little shithouse, was trying to do, was force them to basically align with a political position that they did not agree with. They argued, said they did not believe in it and Gareth decided to sue. They fought back and won. Good on them. You just know that being a deplorable horrible cunt, had Ashers made the cake as requested, Gareth would have been all over Twitter and Facebook with photos of this cake + screenshots of the website etc, to embarrass the owners as much as possible. He'd have probably binned the cake once his goal had been achieved.... too many carbs I suspect. Stunning, so while Ashers Bakery have had to fund their own legal defence (no idea if that is now also covered, but I hope so), Gareth, the shit house, has been getting free money off us lot. Bet he must have a right laugh at all the 'straighties' donating their hard earned taxes so this obvious dosser cunt can sit at home finding more businesses to target with his passive aggressive and borderline fascist political beliefs. Does it? Seems to me the law is clearer than ever. The strive for equality should not come at the expense of others freewill and that includes the ability to think slightly differently to you. Pretty good equality law if you ask me. And there's the golden cherry on top of the diarrhoea shake. There's the shit flake on top of the 99p ice cream. Ashers bakery had absolutely no issue with the fact Gareth, the shit house, was gay. They would have refused his order to begin with, if their problem was his sexuality. They had a problem with the fact after he placed the order, when they asked what slogan he wanted, he wanted them to write something that went against their deeply held beliefs. A total setup from Gareth from start to finish. Perhaps he can target a proudly Muslim institution next time? They don't like gay's very much if I remember rightly.... I'm sure he'll get plenty of support. Oh wait.... Mr Tatchell speaking 100% fact, but don't let that stop the LGBT nutters from accusing him of being racist, sexist, homophobic, and any other phobic you can think of. Gareth Lee, Ladies and Gentleman, the face of someone so privileged, he can take the piss out of the tax paying public to the tune of a quarter of a million quid, for an entirely concocted case, and yet still moan that he doesn't get equality.
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Post by thevoid on Oct 10, 2018 13:43:58 GMT
'Mr Lee said the case had made him feel like a second-class citizen and that he was now concerned about "the implications for all of the gay community".'
Ironically it's campaigners like Lee and their antics who probably make Average Joes lose a little bit of tolerance and 'roll their eyes' towards the LGBT community when previously they couldn't have given the slightest of fucks who they like to swap bodily fluids with. I'm one of them I have to say.
What's his next campaign anyway- demand that his nearest Islamic Centre has a stall that sells butt-plugs?
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Post by Dutchpeter on Oct 10, 2018 13:50:14 GMT
'Mr Lee said the case had made him feel like a second-class citizen and that he was now concerned about "the implications for all of the gay community".' Ironically it's campaigners like Lee and their antics who probably make Average Joes lose a little bit of tolerance and 'roll their eyes' towards the LGBT community when previously they couldn't have given the slightest of fucks who they like to swap bodily fluids with. I'm one of them I have to say. What's his next campaign anyway- demand that his nearest Islamic Centre has a stall that sells butt-plugs? There is more chance of platting snot than gay rights activists provoking Muslims. The bakery was a soft target for their own self aggrandisement.
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 10, 2018 14:10:27 GMT
'Mr Lee said the case had made him feel like a second-class citizen and that he was now concerned about "the implications for all of the gay community".' Ironically it's campaigners like Lee and their antics who probably make Average Joes lose a little bit of tolerance and 'roll their eyes' towards the LGBT community when previously they couldn't have given the slightest of fucks who they like to swap bodily fluids with. I'm one of them I have to say. What's his next campaign anyway- demand that his nearest Islamic Centre has a stall that sells butt-plugs? Especially when they found out it has cost a combined £450k in legal fees for a row over a £36.50 cake, personally the bloke strikes me as a bit of a cnut for wrongly using this firm to make a correct point about the lack of rights for gay people to marry in NI, this cake he wanted so badly did he ever get it made elsewhere ? Having said that the bakers are daft cnuts for walking into this argument, phone up another bakery get them to make the cake put it in one of your bags and smile and say thank you and you are £200k better off.
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Post by yeokel on Oct 10, 2018 14:22:13 GMT
'Mr Lee said the case had made him feel like a second-class citizen and that he was now concerned about "the implications for all of the gay community".' Ironically it's campaigners like Lee and their antics who probably make Average Joes lose a little bit of tolerance and 'roll their eyes' towards the LGBT community when previously they couldn't have given the slightest of fucks who they like to swap bodily fluids with. I'm one of them I have to say. What's his next campaign anyway- demand that his nearest Islamic Centre has a stall that sells butt-plugs? ......Having said that the bakers are daft cnuts for walking into this argument, phone up another bakery get them to make the cake put it in one of your bags and smile and say thank you and you are £200k better off. I couldn’t disagree more. They had their principles and were brave enough to stand up and be counted. I’m pleased for them that they have won, and hope that there is a serious enquiry in to why £250,000 of tax payer’s money (plus costs which are likely to be as much again) was allowed to be wasted fighting this case.
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Post by metalhead on Oct 10, 2018 14:34:19 GMT
'Mr Lee said the case had made him feel like a second-class citizen and that he was now concerned about "the implications for all of the gay community".' Ironically it's campaigners like Lee and their antics who probably make Average Joes lose a little bit of tolerance and 'roll their eyes' towards the LGBT community when previously they couldn't have given the slightest of fucks who they like to swap bodily fluids with. I'm one of them I have to say. What's his next campaign anyway- demand that his nearest Islamic Centre has a stall that sells butt-plugs?I suspect so.... and as good little equality seekers, he will get the backing of the entire LGBT community.... oh wait, no he fucking won't. The bakery was indeed a soft target and it's 100% obvious that this entire shit show was a setup by a fairly despicable character. Nothing to do with his sexuality. He's just a horrible person. Especially when they found out it has cost a combined £450k in legal fees for a row over a £36.50 cake, personally the bloke strikes me as a bit of a cnut for wrongly using this firm to make a correct point about the lack of rights for gay people to marry in NI, this cake he wanted so badly did he ever get it made elsewhere ? Having said that the bakers are daft cnuts for walking into this argument, phone up another bakery get them to make the cake put it in one of your bags and smile and say thank you and you are £200k better off.As I stated in my essay above, Mr Shithouse, sorry, Mr Lee, would have splayed it all over Twitter, Facebook etc. "Looooooook at meeeeeeeeeeeeee, I love attention I'm Gareth, I got a cake from a Christian baker teeeeeeheeeee". What a wanker. I'm so glad they won. It's a superb result and does nothing to damage equality whatsoever. Maybe Mr Lee can get a job?
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Post by metalhead on Oct 10, 2018 14:48:19 GMT
......Having said that the bakers are daft cnuts for walking into this argument, phone up another bakery get them to make the cake put it in one of your bags and smile and say thank you and you are £200k better off. I couldn’t disagree more. They had their principles and were brave enough to stand up and be counted. I’m pleased for them that they have won, and hope that there is a serious enquiry in to why £250,000 of tax payer’s money (plus costs which are likely to be as much again) was allowed to be wasted fighting this case.Because equality for Gareth the professional activist.... remember? Day job? Unemployed? Giro casher? Piss taker?
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Oct 10, 2018 14:48:32 GMT
......Having said that the bakers are daft cnuts for walking into this argument, phone up another bakery get them to make the cake put it in one of your bags and smile and say thank you and you are £200k better off. I couldn’t disagree more. They had their principles and were brave enough to stand up and be counted. I’m pleased for them that they have won, and hope that there is a serious enquiry in to why £250,000 of tax payer’s money (plus costs which are likely to be as much again) was allowed to be wasted fighting this case. Furthermore, although highly unlikely it would have made the “local rag” let alone national news that a Christian baker made a cake for a gay man, he no doubt would have been spanking himself silly in his social media and with friends that he got one over the ‘bible bashers’...
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 10, 2018 16:02:04 GMT
......Having said that the bakers are daft cnuts for walking into this argument, phone up another bakery get them to make the cake put it in one of your bags and smile and say thank you and you are £200k better off. I couldn’t disagree more. They had their principles and were brave enough to stand up and be counted. I’m pleased for them that they have won, and hope that there is a serious enquiry in to why £250,000 of tax payer’s money (plus costs which are likely to be as much again) was allowed to be wasted fighting this case. As there are no cakes involved it is ok to disagree The bakers won a pyrrhic victory making the cake or not won't actually affect whether gay marriage becomes legal in NI which it will eventually, £200k or a £36.50 cake I know what I would choose but then I am not religious or irish.
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 10, 2018 16:05:27 GMT
'Mr Lee said the case had made him feel like a second-class citizen and that he was now concerned about "the implications for all of the gay community".' Ironically it's campaigners like Lee and their antics who probably make Average Joes lose a little bit of tolerance and 'roll their eyes' towards the LGBT community when previously they couldn't have given the slightest of fucks who they like to swap bodily fluids with. I'm one of them I have to say. What's his next campaign anyway- demand that his nearest Islamic Centre has a stall that sells butt-plugs?I suspect so.... and as good little equality seekers, he will get the backing of the entire LGBT community.... oh wait, no he fucking won't. The bakery was indeed a soft target and it's 100% obvious that this entire shit show was a setup by a fairly despicable character. Nothing to do with his sexuality. He's just a horrible person. Especially when they found out it has cost a combined £450k in legal fees for a row over a £36.50 cake, personally the bloke strikes me as a bit of a cnut for wrongly using this firm to make a correct point about the lack of rights for gay people to marry in NI, this cake he wanted so badly did he ever get it made elsewhere ? Having said that the bakers are daft cnuts for walking into this argument, phone up another bakery get them to make the cake put it in one of your bags and smile and say thank you and you are £200k better off.As I stated in my essay above, Mr Shithouse, sorry, Mr Lee, would have splayed it all over Twitter, Facebook etc. "Looooooook at meeeeeeeeeeeeee, I love attention I'm Gareth, I got a cake from a Christian baker teeeeeeheeeee". What a wanker. I'm so glad they won. It's a superb result and does nothing to damage equality whatsoever. Maybe Mr Lee can get a job? Its the refusal that was the story but if it played out as you say then their twitter simply had to say due to an expected high demand and staff shortages the making of this cake was outsourced to xyz
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Post by yeokel on Oct 10, 2018 16:21:50 GMT
I couldn’t disagree more. They had their principles and were brave enough to stand up and be counted. I’m pleased for them that they have won, and hope that there is a serious enquiry in to why £250,000 of tax payer’s money (plus costs which are likely to be as much again) was allowed to be wasted fighting this case. As there are no cakes involved it is ok to disagree The bakers won a pyrrhic victory making the cake or not won't actually affect whether gay marriage becomes legal in NI which it will eventually, £200k or a £36.50 cake I know what I would choose but then I am not religious or irish. But the case wasn’t about the legality of ‘gay’ marriage in NI, or even whether the customer was a ‘gay’ or not. It was about the right of the bakers to refuse to put a message on to a cake which went against their beliefs. Surely they have the right to be able to choose what they make and sell in their business? It cannot be right for someone to be able to come in off the street and demand that they bake a cake for him and place upon it a political message with which they disagree and for them to have no right of refusal, can it? I’m sure there are plenty of other slogans which they would have refused to use which wouldn’t have caused such an outrage from the BBC, the Guardian and others but those wouldn’t fit their twisted ‘inclusivity’ agendas.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 10, 2018 16:22:18 GMT
I have no doubt I would find the Christian Baker's views on various issues not to my tastes but what a waste of fucking money this is and is clearly a targetted publicity stunt on behalf of Lee and his cohorts which does nothing to advance the issue of Gay rights, particularly in NI.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2018 16:25:02 GMT
Damn, I thought it was a new message board setting up
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Post by metalhead on Oct 10, 2018 16:32:07 GMT
I have no doubt I would find the Christian Baker's views on various issues not to my tastes but what a waste of fucking money this is and is clearly a targetted publicity stunt on behalf of Lee and his cohorts which does nothing to advance the issue of Gay rights, particularly in NI. Absolutely.
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Post by bathstoke on Oct 10, 2018 16:58:58 GMT
Peter Tatchell dislikes this
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2018 17:35:07 GMT
So this was a case of "You can't have your cake and eat it"
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 10, 2018 17:47:53 GMT
Peter Tatchell dislikes this Err you might want to double-check that. An issue like this separates the kind of entitled agitator of the type who brought this case from a truly principled campaigner for rights and freedoms like Peter Tatchell.
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Post by thevoid on Oct 10, 2018 17:57:59 GMT
There was a lettuce-licker's status on my Facebook the other day- along the lines of 'the USA thinks it's still the 1940s because of it's treatment of the LGBT community'- the usual cliched bollocks.
Now there's a lot to criticise the States (and UK) for, but LGBT rights isn't one of them- they've got more rights, a bigger platform and more representation than ever.
If they really want to mention countries where LGBT rights are not so great, the USA is surely way down the list- but that wouldn't suit the narrative, would it?
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Post by metalhead on Oct 10, 2018 18:05:31 GMT
There was a lettuce-licker's status on my Facebook the other day- along the lines of 'the USA thinks it's still the 1940s because of it's treatment of the LGBT community'- the usual cliched bollocks. Now there's a lot to criticise the States (and UK) for, but LGBT rights isn't one of them- they've got more rights, a bigger platform and more representation than ever. If they really want to mention countries where LGBT rights are not so great, the USA is surely way down the list- but that wouldn't suit the narrative, would it? Both the UK and USA have levelled the playing field.... and rightly so. The problem for me, is that some gay people seemingly want more than equality.... they actually want superiority, a bit like certain feminists. If there's someone I utterly despise, it's Milo Yiannopoulos, but he actually nails it here, although I disagree with him on gay marriage. Two very gay blokes talking about exactly what I mention above:
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Post by Miles Offside on Oct 10, 2018 18:13:41 GMT
Everybody's a victim now - except for old white men, obviously.
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Post by felonious on Oct 10, 2018 18:14:24 GMT
I couldn’t disagree more. They had their principles and were brave enough to stand up and be counted. I’m pleased for them that they have won, and hope that there is a serious enquiry in to why £250,000 of tax payer’s money (plus costs which are likely to be as much again) was allowed to be wasted fighting this case. As there are no cakes involved it is ok to disagree The bakers won a pyrrhic victory making the cake or not won't actually affect whether gay marriage becomes legal in NI which it will eventually, £200k or a £36.50 cake I know what I would choose but then I am not religious or irish. The baker's costs were funded by a Christian charity.
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Post by felonious on Oct 10, 2018 18:17:58 GMT
Peter Tatchell dislikes this Err you might want to double-check that. An issue like this separates the kind of entitled agitator of the type who brought this case from a truly principled campaigner for rights and freedoms like Peter Tatchell. Are we talking about the man who outed homosexuals and caused misery for both them, their families and their friends?
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 10, 2018 18:19:12 GMT
'Mr Lee said the case had made him feel like a second-class citizen and that he was now concerned about "the implications for all of the gay community".' Ironically it's campaigners like Lee and their antics who probably make Average Joes lose a little bit of tolerance and 'roll their eyes' towards the LGBT community when previously they couldn't have given the slightest of fucks who they like to swap bodily fluids with. I'm one of them I have to say. What's his next campaign anyway- demand that his nearest Islamic Centre has a stall that sells butt-plugs? Also ironically, if this guy had won his case it could potentially have been incredibly oppressive and detrimental to gay business owners. It would have opened the doors for proper fascists to stride into printers and bakers owned by gay people and demand they make banners and cakes with anti-gay slogans all over them.
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Post by salopstick on Oct 10, 2018 18:52:13 GMT
'Mr Lee said the case had made him feel like a second-class citizen and that he was now concerned about "the implications for all of the gay community".' Ironically it's campaigners like Lee and their antics who probably make Average Joes lose a little bit of tolerance and 'roll their eyes' towards the LGBT community when previously they couldn't have given the slightest of fucks who they like to swap bodily fluids with. I'm one of them I have to say. What's his next campaign anyway- demand that his nearest Islamic Centre has a stall that sells butt-plugs? Also ironically, if this guy had won his case it could potentially have been incredibly oppressive and detrimental to gay business owners. It would have opened the doors for proper fascists to stride into printers and bakers owned by gay people and demand they make banners and cakes with anti-gay slogans all over them. Never happen mate. We only have selective equality.
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Post by metalhead on Oct 10, 2018 19:11:40 GMT
Also ironically, if this guy had won his case it could potentially have been incredibly oppressive and detrimental to gay business owners. It would have opened the doors for proper fascists to stride into printers and bakers owned by gay people and demand they make banners and cakes with anti-gay slogans all over them. Never happen mate. We only have selective equality.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Oct 10, 2018 19:55:22 GMT
Excellent news.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Oct 10, 2018 21:19:04 GMT
Is puff pastry banned yet? If not it should be!
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