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Post by GeneralFaye on Sept 22, 2018 7:47:23 GMT
What are peoples thoughts on this? think it's a very dangerous fight for Fury myself, maybe 1 fight too soon?... Think Wilder might just pull it out of the bag.
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Post by lordb on Sept 22, 2018 9:10:29 GMT
Might well be dangerous for Fury. Maybe he will come undone. Tell you what though there's nothing dull about this,a fight worth watching. Fury gets inside people's heads.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Sept 22, 2018 9:13:49 GMT
Fury could very well school him for 12 rounds and prove me wrong, that's the exciting thing about this fight, it's a tough one to call.
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Post by neworleanstokie on Sept 22, 2018 12:05:06 GMT
I've seen Wilder fight a few times here in NY. He'll take out Fury with speed and pure aggression (with any luck)
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Post by salopstick on Sept 22, 2018 14:53:09 GMT
Fury will batter him Be in the best shape he’s ever been in then school hom
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2018 20:24:38 GMT
I would have liked to see Fury have another 2 fights before he took this fight. Going in after 1 fight could see him knocked into next year.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Sept 23, 2018 6:48:10 GMT
I would have liked to see Fury have another 2 fights before he took this fight. Going in after 1 fight could see him knocked into next year. That's my fear, seems a bit soon for my liking but IF he wins it'll surely set up a fight with Joshua and I'm convinced he'd beat AJ.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 7:51:36 GMT
I would have liked to see Fury have another 2 fights before he took this fight. Going in after 1 fight could see him knocked into next year. That's my fear, seems a bit soon for my liking but IF he wins it'll surely set up a fight with Joshua and I'm convinced he'd beat AJ. Got to agree mate. The more I see if AJ as he steps up is that he has power that’s fair enough. But fury could potentially box his head off and make him look stupid
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Post by salopstick on Sept 23, 2018 8:53:37 GMT
Fury battering AJ at Wembley in April to unify the titles seems likely now
Probably the biggest fight ever in Britain.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 9:14:57 GMT
Fury battering AJ at Wembley in April to unify the titles seems likely now Probably the biggest fight ever in Britain. Eddie will milk it for what it’s worth. I think AJ will fight Whyte in April at a sold out Wembley then Face the winner of fury v wilder in September. Two 80k pay checks for Eddie and AJ
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Post by salopstick on Sept 23, 2018 10:26:53 GMT
Fury battering AJ at Wembley in April to unify the titles seems likely now Probably the biggest fight ever in Britain. Eddie will milk it for what it’s worth. I think AJ will fight Whyte in April at a sold out Wembley then Face the winner of fury v wilder in September. Two 80k pay checks for Eddie and AJ I like whyte. He is a different fighter to the one that aj beat him. Wether he can upset aj is one thing but it would be closer than people think. If fury or wilder can be done for April I would be surprised to risk whyte prior. That said whyte is the mandatory for the wbc so it’s not impossible to se whyte v fury/wilder first After that there are not too many box office opportunities out there. In April the loser of wilder/fury, whyte and AJ all need fights. It wouldn’t surprise me to see whyte fight someone like bellew. If bellew gets through usyk
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Post by neworleanstokie on Nov 29, 2018 19:04:15 GMT
Still no mainstream interest in this fight over here. Both have given it their best to ham it up during the pressers but it hasn't had much effect. Regardless I'll be plonking down $80 for it on Sat night - just hope I can stay awake that late on the East coast.
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Post by drjeffsdiscobarge on Nov 29, 2018 19:07:29 GMT
Wilder hits fury, fury hits canvas.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Nov 29, 2018 21:11:02 GMT
Still no mainstream interest in this fight over here. Both have given it their best to ham it up during the pressers but it hasn't had much effect. Regardless I'll be plonking down $80 for it on Sat night - just hope I can stay awake that late on the East coast. I thought this fight would be big across there neworleanstokie so a little bit surprised it isn't. Also 80$ is alot for the fight bearing in mind it is 20£ here so fair play to you for stumping that much up 👍 Who is your money on mate? For me Fury is going to box his way to a points decision and Wilder's only chance of winning is a knockout. It is a slim chance as I can't see him getting near Fury.
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Post by Cast no shadow on Nov 29, 2018 23:08:07 GMT
If Wilder hits fury, fury hits canvas.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 23:13:13 GMT
Never warmed to Fury, Lazy boxer, Lazy trainer.
And yet there he is with all sorts of fights and titles under his belt.
Imagine if he seriously put his mind to getting in unreal shape...
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Nov 29, 2018 23:32:10 GMT
Never warmed to Fury, Lazy boxer, Lazy trainer. And yet there he is with all sorts of fights and titles under his belt. Imagine if he seriously put his mind to getting in unreal shape... I don't think he is a lazy boxer though, he boxes very well and for his size is as fast with his feet and hand movement as I've seen. I think his mental strength is not in question either as he has come through the worst time of his life with his held high and in super shape and is taking on Wilder in his back yard. He is a role model for anyone who has had mental health issues and I hope he wins and I'm sure he will.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 23:37:21 GMT
Never warmed to Fury, Lazy boxer, Lazy trainer. And yet there he is with all sorts of fights and titles under his belt. Imagine if he seriously put his mind to getting in unreal shape... I don't think he is a lazy boxer though, he boxes very well and for his size is as fast with his feet and hand movement as I've seen. I think his mental strength is not in question either as he has come through the worst time of his life with his held high and in super shape and is taking on Wilder in his back yard. He is a role model for anyone who has had mental health issues and I hope he wins and I'm sure he will. I think it's his mental strength that carries him through, agree with a lot of what you've said but I don't think he's technically much good - it's his grit that lets him see out fights. Don't know much about his mental health
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Nov 29, 2018 23:46:22 GMT
I don't think he is a lazy boxer though, he boxes very well and for his size is as fast with his feet and hand movement as I've seen. I think his mental strength is not in question either as he has come through the worst time of his life with his held high and in super shape and is taking on Wilder in his back yard. He is a role model for anyone who has had mental health issues and I hope he wins and I'm sure he will. I think it's his mental strength that carries him through, agree with a lot of what you've said but I don't think he's technically much good - it's his grit that lets him see out fights. Don't know much about his mental health Fair enough mate thats your opinion although I beg to differ. He outboxed Klitschko who never got near him all night so technically that's as good as you get in that weight division. His determination and grit does have alot to do with it but you have to back it up in the ring and he always has. Regarding his mental health it is all over the internet, he has not hid away from it and has encouraged anyone in that position to speak out. He isn't the loudmouth some make him out to be and has I'm sure turned people's life around who were in a similar position to his.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 23:57:16 GMT
I think it's his mental strength that carries him through, agree with a lot of what you've said but I don't think he's technically much good - it's his grit that lets him see out fights. Don't know much about his mental health Fair enough mate thats your opinion although I beg to differ. He outboxed Klitschko who never got near him all night so technically that's as good as you get in that weight division. His determination and grit does have alot to do with it but you have to back it up in the ring and he always has. Regarding his mental health it is all over the internet, he has not hid away from it and has encouraged anyone in that position to speak out. He isn't the loudmouth some make him out to be and has I'm sure turned people's life around who were in a similar position to his. Interesting read www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/2018/11/24/tyson-fury-trainer-ben-davison-reveals-openness-mental-health/amp/ - and you're right too, he looks fitter than I've ever seen him fairplay to him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 6:29:57 GMT
Fair enough mate thats your opinion although I beg to differ. He outboxed Klitschko who never got near him all night so technically that's as good as you get in that weight division. His determination and grit does have alot to do with it but you have to back it up in the ring and he always has. Regarding his mental health it is all over the internet, he has not hid away from it and has encouraged anyone in that position to speak out. He isn't the loudmouth some make him out to be and has I'm sure turned people's life around who were in a similar position to his. Interesting read www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/2018/11/24/tyson-fury-trainer-ben-davison-reveals-openness-mental-health/amp/ - and you're right too, he looks fitter than I've ever seen him fairplay to him. That was a cracking read. He Came across very well for someone so inexperienced
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 30, 2018 9:47:07 GMT
I watched an interview with Tyson Fury, recently. The interviewer was an ex MMA fighter whose name escapes me, but I thought Fury came across very well. He's great when he tones it down a bit, and talks a lot of sense about boxing, and life generally.
As to his ability, I find him very hard to judge. I wasn't that impressed with the Klitshcko win, because I thought it was a bit of a dance off, where Vlad seemed to find it impossible to throw a punch, but of course, Fury's size and awkwardness must have contributed to this. Fury can box, and moves well for the giant that he is, but to hear people talk, you would think he is another Ali!
As for Wilder, he's actually not very good, technically, or at least he abandons technique for power. His power is for real, though, and that wildness might make it be harder for Fury to avoid his punches. Might.
It's a weird fight in that nothing would surprise me. I think Fury looks in great shape, although he's never going to be the body beautiful. He reminds me of Larry Holmes in that regard. I can see him making a complete mug of Wilder, but I can't forget Fury being floored by Cunningham with that overhand right; exactly the sort of punch that Wilder throws. I'm not sure Fury would get up if Wilder landed like that.
That said, Wilder has been wobbled badly, and although Fury isn't a big puncher, he hits hard enough to get your attention. I don't think Wilder can totally disrespect his power and walk through him. If I had to bet, I usually go for the boxer over the puncher in this type of fight, and probably still would. There's just that nagging doubt about Wilder's undoubted power.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Nov 30, 2018 10:22:42 GMT
Hope Fury wins so we get to see him school AJ but I still think Wilder is going to KO him unfortunately.
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Nov 30, 2018 11:28:42 GMT
Fury by late stoppage.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Nov 30, 2018 12:11:24 GMT
Boxing News predicting a Wilder win on points. I fancy Fury on points myself.
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Post by drjeffsdiscobarge on Nov 30, 2018 13:47:28 GMT
I think people have got carried away with Fury's win over Klitschko. Yes he barely laid a glove on Fury but that was more because he seemed to be thinking he couldn't be arsed with all the antics of Fury at that point in his career.
Wilder is a different prospect.
He will catch Fury, it's just a matter of when. And when he does, I can only see one thing happening and that's Fury flat on his back.
Wilder proved he can take a dig against Ortiz and managed to come back after being in trouble.
I don't think he will be at all concerned about Fury's punching power.
All that said, I can only see one result Wilder by KO/TKO.... possibly very quickly....
... so probably Fury by UD. ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 14:16:53 GMT
I watched an interview with Tyson Fury, recently. The interviewer was an ex MMA fighter whose name escapes me, but I thought Fury came across very well. He's great when he tones it down a bit, and talks a lot of sense about boxing, and life generally. As to his ability, I find him very hard to judge. I wasn't that impressed with the Klitshcko win, because I thought it was a bit of a dance off, where Vlad seemed to find it impossible to throw a punch, but of course, Fury's size and awkwardness must have contributed to this. Fury can box, and moves well for the giant that he is, but to hear people talk, you would think he is another Ali! As for Wilder, he's actually not very good, technically, or at least he abandons technique for power. His power is for real, though, and that wildness might make it be harder for Fury to avoid his punches. Might. It's a weird fight in that nothing would surprise me. I think Fury looks in great shape, although he's never going to be the body beautiful. He reminds me of Larry Holmes in that regard. I can see him making a complete mug of Wilder, but I can't forget Fury being floored by Cunningham with that overhand right; exactly the sort of punch that Wilder throws. I'm not sure Fury would get up if Wilder landed like that. That said, Wilder has been wobbled badly, and although Fury isn't a big puncher, he hits hard enough to get your attention. I don't think Wilder can totally disrespect his power and walk through him. If I had to bet, I usually go for the boxer over the puncher in this type of fight, and probably still would. There's just that nagging doubt about Wilder's undoubted power. Are you talking about the Joe Rogan Experience? If so it is an absolute must watch/listen (via podcast). Fury is a really articulate bloke and an inspiration for his dealings with mental health.
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Post by neworleanstokie on Nov 30, 2018 15:03:17 GMT
Still no mainstream interest in this fight over here. Both have given it their best to ham it up during the pressers but it hasn't had much effect. Regardless I'll be plonking down $80 for it on Sat night - just hope I can stay awake that late on the East coast. I thought this fight would be big across there neworleanstokie so a little bit surprised it isn't. Also 80$ is alot for the fight bearing in mind it is 20£ here so fair play to you for stumping that much up 👍 Who is your money on mate? For me Fury is going to box his way to a points decision and Wilder's only chance of winning is a knockout. It is a slim chance as I can't see him getting near Fury. Sadly heavyweight boxing or just boxing in general here is not that popular compared to MMA etc. Add to that all the other sports competing for attention. The big fights are only in a few cities New York, Brooklyn, Las Vegas occasionally Texas, which works for me as I live in Manhattan but not for most. Even then it's rare to see a sell out. The Alvarez fight in a couple of weeks against Fielding won't be close to a sell out at MSG. The Loma fight will sell out because it's at the small room at MSG. The Charlo fight at the Barclays later this month will be around 10k. And yes PPV is still crazy expensive and not for the casual fan. DAZN launched over here and it is great only $10 a month and we get all the UK fights now. Plus ESPN+ $7 I just watched the Horn fight from Aus at 7am. I've seen Wilder fight a couple of times, was there when he went nuts on Stiverne that was scarry to watch, I've only seen Tyson in the ring with a litre of Vodka in him mouthing off in the ring after I think the Charles Martin fight. Anyway good to see Tyson has turned it around - teamed up with Freddie Roach who was an acquaintance of mine a few years back.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 30, 2018 15:09:38 GMT
I watched an interview with Tyson Fury, recently. The interviewer was an ex MMA fighter whose name escapes me, but I thought Fury came across very well. He's great when he tones it down a bit, and talks a lot of sense about boxing, and life generally. As to his ability, I find him very hard to judge. I wasn't that impressed with the Klitshcko win, because I thought it was a bit of a dance off, where Vlad seemed to find it impossible to throw a punch, but of course, Fury's size and awkwardness must have contributed to this. Fury can box, and moves well for the giant that he is, but to hear people talk, you would think he is another Ali! As for Wilder, he's actually not very good, technically, or at least he abandons technique for power. His power is for real, though, and that wildness might make it be harder for Fury to avoid his punches. Might. It's a weird fight in that nothing would surprise me. I think Fury looks in great shape, although he's never going to be the body beautiful. He reminds me of Larry Holmes in that regard. I can see him making a complete mug of Wilder, but I can't forget Fury being floored by Cunningham with that overhand right; exactly the sort of punch that Wilder throws. I'm not sure Fury would get up if Wilder landed like that. That said, Wilder has been wobbled badly, and although Fury isn't a big puncher, he hits hard enough to get your attention. I don't think Wilder can totally disrespect his power and walk through him. If I had to bet, I usually go for the boxer over the puncher in this type of fight, and probably still would. There's just that nagging doubt about Wilder's undoubted power. Are you talking about the Joe Rogan Experience? If so it is an absolute must watch/listen (via podcast). Fury is a really articulate bloke and an inspiration for his dealings with mental health. It was with Brendan Schaub, (may have been linked) but I have heard him on Joe Rogan, too. You are right, there's depth to Fury and his battle with mental health certainly resonated with me, and he deserves credit for highlighting it. I hope he wins.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Nov 30, 2018 17:24:10 GMT
I don't think he is a lazy boxer though, he boxes very well and for his size is as fast with his feet and hand movement as I've seen. I think his mental strength is not in question either as he has come through the worst time of his life with his held high and in super shape and is taking on Wilder in his back yard. He is a role model for anyone who has had mental health issues and I hope he wins and I'm sure he will. I think it's his mental strength that carries him through, agree with a lot of what you've said but I don't think he's technically much good - it's his grit that lets him see out fights. Don't know much about his mental health Honestly?
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