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Post by musik on Sept 17, 2018 12:16:27 GMT
Confusing, now you're all assuming I know who it is.
However, to think of a proper kind of revenge shouldn't be that difficult.
Serious question:
If I got a removable 1x1 cm spy camera temporarily installed in the shared and locked small drying room for one household downstairs just during my laundry pass connected with a nice software app in real time on a mobile phone, and then removed it, would that count as evidence to the police - or could I end up more punished than any old towel thief?
I reckon I can't install it outside of the drying room, inside the laundry room where the two machines are, since there is also the booking system on the wall, anyone should have access to at any time?
Even though that wouldn't count as evidence according to our laws here, nevertheless it could help me to find out who starts the machine to the right.
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Post by thequietman on Sept 17, 2018 20:57:31 GMT
Confusing, now you're all assuming I know who it is. However, to think of a proper kind of revenge shouldn't be that difficult. Serious question: If I got a removable 1x1 cm spy camera temporarily installed in the shared and locked small drying room for one household downstairs just during my laundry pass connected with a nice software app in real time on a mobile phone, and then removed it, would that count as evidence to the police - or could I end up more punished than any old towel thief? I reckon I can't install it outside of the drying room, inside the laundry room where the two machines are, since there is also the booking system on the wall, anyone should have access to at any time? Even though that wouldn't count as evidence according to our laws here, nevertheless it could help me to find out who starts the machine to the right. Dangerous territory if you get caught, Musik. Especially if someone does the Levi's advert + washes the clothes they're wearing. But feel free to post the results on here (make sure Sal okays them first - no rudey bits). How about going James Bond. Coat the washer knobs in that invisible dye they use in bank note containers. Carry around a UV torch, anyone with purple hands is either guilty or has been picking beetroot. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2018 22:01:18 GMT
Confusing, now you're all assuming I know who it is. However, to think of a proper kind of revenge shouldn't be that difficult. Serious question: If I got a removable 1x1 cm spy camera temporarily installed in the shared and locked small drying room for one household downstairs just during my laundry pass connected with a nice software app in real time on a mobile phone, and then removed it, would that count as evidence to the police - or could I end up more punished than any old towel thief? I reckon I can't install it outside of the drying room, inside the laundry room where the two machines are, since there is also the booking system on the wall, anyone should have access to at any time? Even though that wouldn't count as evidence according to our laws here, nevertheless it could help me to find out who starts the machine to the right. Dangerous territory if you get caught, Musik. Especially if someone does the Levi's advert + washes the clothes they're wearing. But feel free to post the results on here (make sure Sal okays them first - no rudey bits). How about going James Bond. Coat the washer knobs in that invisible dye they use in bank note containers. Carry around a UV torch, anyone with purple hands is either guilty or has been picking beetroot. or maybe super glue on the washer knobs  |
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Post by musik on Sept 21, 2018 15:29:45 GMT
Thanks for the suggestions above.
Here is the Friday report:
Apparently I'm not the only one suffering from this numskull of a fruitcake's actions.
This morning I got a letter in my postbox from the house renting management department saying: "We must follow our restricted time rules in the laundry room". Gulp!! 😐
Instantly I thought about the idiot starting my machines at 20.45.
The letter also said something about: "it should be some note in the laundry room saying you perhaps can't use all laundry hours at the weekends; it depends on if someone lives above the laundry room."
Excellent! "perhaps"? "all laundry hours"? There is not such a note down there!
Since this letter was sent to all "their" households, it doesn't particularly speak to me/us here in this building only.
Therefore, I've decided to wash during ordinary weekdays and not use the late washing session. Just in case. I've done it "my way" before, for more than a decade. We all have.
Anyway, when I just decided to change washing session today after reading that letter, from a late session one day to an earlier one another day, I discovered something ...
Someone in the laundry room had opened up the drying room totally, with the loud sounding dryer in there doing the work, with all the clothes hanging. The door wasn't just unlocked, it was wide open! Anyone could just go in there.
/brown rice, cucumber, peppers, white beans, chickpeas, tomatoe sauce, chili sauce, orange juice & The Lost Book of Enki
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Sept 21, 2018 19:04:57 GMT
Thanks for the suggestions above. Here is the Friday report: Apparently I'm not the only one suffering from this numskull of a fruitcake's actions. This morning I got a letter in my postbox from the house renting management department saying: "We must follow our restricted time rules in the laundry room". Gulp!! 😐 Instantly I thought about the idiot starting my machines at 20.45. The letter also said something about: "it should be some note in the laundry room saying you perhaps can't use all laundry hours at the weekends; it depends on if someone lives above the laundry room." Excellent! "perhaps"? "all laundry hours"? There is not such a note down there! Since this letter was sent to all "their" households, it doesn't particularly speak to me/us here in this building only. Therefore, I've decided to wash during ordinary weekdays and not use the late washing session. Just in case. I've done it "my way" before, for more than a decade. We all have. Anyway, when I just decided to change washing session today after reading that letter, from a late session one day to an earlier one another day, I discovered something ... Someone in the laundry room had opened up the drying room totally, with the loud sounding dryer in there doing the work, with all the clothes hanging. The door wasn't just unlocked, it was wide open! Anyone could just go in there. /brown rice, cucumber, peppers, white beans, chickpeas, tomatoe sauce, chili sauce, orange juice & The Lost Book of Enki😀 Havn't really got a handle on your laundry problem, but your reading material has got me intrigued. Is it the clay tablets in original Sumer or a translation? Hopefully not the Sitchin book. |
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Post by musik on Sept 21, 2018 20:02:09 GMT
Havn't really got a handle on your laundry problem, but your reading material has got me intrigued. Is it the clay tablets in original Sumer or a translation? Hopefully not the Sitchin book. Ok.😀 Haha. That would be something! Me having the original clay tablets ... no, it's a translation. The one by Zecharia Sitchin. I got it from a friend as a gift, because he had two. He said: "You must read this!" So I will. We're going to discuss it next month. Why do you say "Hopefully not"? Why did you obviously not like it? ps. Cheesfreex, I've just started reading it now ... tonight ds. |
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Post by musik on Sept 21, 2018 21:32:45 GMT
Hopefully not the Sitchin book. Should I totally avoid reading it to save me some time? What's the worst about the book by Sitchin? My mate said it was the translation to English that bothered him. But he was thrilled anyhow. |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Sept 21, 2018 23:14:30 GMT
Hopefully not the Sitchin book. Should I totally avoid reading it to save me some time? What's the worst about the book by Sitchin? My mate said it was the translation to English that bothered him. But he was thrilled anyhow. Apologies for the delay in responding. And also with the flippant remark re Sitchin. Partly because it was a hope you'd come across another perspective on the tablets. Don't let me dissuade you from reading it, be interesting to see what you think. Sounds like your friend forewarned you.If you are reading it, ignore the below until after you've finished it. I'm off out to see if I can tell whether this {near} Full Moon is hollow or not. {{{All this Sumer, pre-Flood etc etc is a rabbit hole {I enjoy} as it is, I've seen a couple of youtube videos 'Debunkers', which doubt the accuracy of Sitchin's translation of the 'texts'. He's an interesting character, interesting theories. But I fear his particular part of the warren is a bit of a cul de sac. The rabbit hole is deep enough, don't want too many wrong turns. His translations appear to be based on a lot of guesswork and his own agenda, wishful thinking, perhaps. Think it could be filed alongside Von Daniken. Interesting read maybe. Though I kid myself that I''m open minded, I remain a cynic regarding the ancient alien stuff. Personally with the immediacy of the web I feel loathe to commit the effort of reading to the more 'fringe' theories.' I'm fascinated by the vids though.}}} |
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Post by thequietman on Sept 22, 2018 9:05:54 GMT
You might have stumbled upon something exciting and profound, Musik. Could it be aliens trying to communicate with you?
How would you further the conversation with an intelligence that thinks in a different way to us, though?
Maybe leave out an etch-a-sketch, an unsolved Rubik's cube and a stylophone and see what happens.
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Post by musik on Sept 22, 2018 10:11:23 GMT
You might have stumbled upon something exciting and profound, Musik. Could it be aliens trying to communicate with you? How would you further the conversation with an intelligence that thinks in a different way to us, though? Maybe leave out an etch-a-sketch, an unsolved Rubik's cube and a stylophone and see what happens. ... or a Stoke shirt, a football and a framed picture of Mark Hughes perhaps ... It's just a book I got from a long time friend of mine. I will see what it is. He's also mentioned The Book of Enoch - but I'm not so sure about that personally. Von Däniken ... yeah him too, and I will give it a try sometime, when there's room for it. If there are any Aliens in some of all the universes, and they'd come to visit Earth, I'm sure they just don't have their way of thinking. They would be able to see things from any possible perspective and think whatever thoughts suitable for the current situation, on any level. My way of seeing things: we are ALL aliens. Why? We weren't here from the beginning, were we? People tend to forget that. 😍 |
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Post by musik on Sept 22, 2018 10:15:57 GMT
I've seen a couple of youtube videos 'Debunkers', which doubt the accuracy of Sitchin's translation of the 'texts'. He's an interesting character, interesting theories. His translations appear to be based on a lot of guesswork and his own agenda, wishful thinking, perhaps. Where are these original clay tablets archived? Could anyone seek a permission to get a glimpse of them? |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Sept 22, 2018 10:19:19 GMT
I've seen a couple of youtube videos 'Debunkers', which doubt the accuracy of Sitchin's translation of the 'texts'. He's an interesting character, interesting theories. His translations appear to be based on a lot of guesswork and his own agenda, wishful thinking, perhaps. Where are these original clay tablets archived? Could anyone seek a permission to get a glimpse of them? Not sure mate. Got a feeling they were part of the collateral damage/smuggled out of the Baghdad Museum, when we sacked Iraq. |
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Post by musik on Sept 22, 2018 20:21:14 GMT
The terror has showed itself in a different way during last night and I wasn't able to get any sleep at all almost.
Hopefully this night will be different.
At least one really suspected now.
More to come.
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Post by thequietman on Sept 22, 2018 21:13:15 GMT
If there are any Aliens in some of all the universes, and they'd come to visit Earth, I'm sure they just don't have their way of thinking. They would be able to see things from any possible perspective and think whatever thoughts suitable for the current situation, on any level. My way of seeing things: we are ALL aliens. Why? We weren't here from the beginning, were we? People tend to forget that. 😍 They could be a hive mind, Musik. How could such a collective being possibly understand the differences of, say, Robert Heinlein, Rasputin and Pol Pot? Danekin I'm not fond of. He occasionally comes up with some interesting stuff, and it is entertaining to read certainly. But I think one of his main agendas is to make money. That doesn't sit comfortably with me when it's presented as pseudo history. "We are all aliens". I love that. Xenophobia + any form of abuse have no place and no substance if we're all aliens. Good on you. And all my previous joking aside, you've mentioned tonight's terrors. I sincerely hope you're ok. |
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Post by musik on Sept 22, 2018 22:06:08 GMT
If there are any Aliens in some of all the universes, and they'd come to visit Earth, I'm sure they just don't have their way of thinking. They would be able to see things from any possible perspective and think whatever thoughts suitable for the current situation, on any level. My way of seeing things: we are ALL aliens. Why? We weren't here from the beginning, were we? People tend to forget that. 😍 They could be a hive mind, Musik. How could such a collective being possibly understand the differences of, say, Robert Heinlein, Rasputin and Pol Pot? Danekin I'm not fond of. He occasionally comes up with some interesting stuff, and it is entertaining to read certainly. But I think one of his main agendas is to make money. That doesn't sit comfortably with me when it's presented as pseudo history. "We are all aliens". I love that. Xenophobia + any form of abuse have no place and no substance if we're all aliens. Good on you. And all my previous joking aside, you've mentioned tonight's terrors. I sincerely hope you're ok. Everytime you try to understand something that is not human, like "aliens" or God or ... you have to go beyond the human restrictions because these restrictions don't set the rules elsewhere. Yes, anyone who truly and fully believes in reincarnation and why it exists, understand that many smaller things and attitudes against people in the environment become irrelevant. Last night, during the whole stormy night(!), someone banged a large door and a window, like two times per minute(!) for hours and hours and hours, many hours, several hundred times throughout the night, so ... I couldn't sleep naturally and have had a headache today. I went to another room, which only helped slightly. I got a total of 1(!) hour sleep. I could listen and figure out what appartment it was. Now I'm 100% sure! I heard them talking in there you see ... they obviously were aware of the banging madness |
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Post by thequietman on Sept 22, 2018 22:17:01 GMT
They could be a hive mind, Musik. How could such a collective being possibly understand the differences of, say, Robert Heinlein, Rasputin and Pol Pot? Danekin I'm not fond of. He occasionally comes up with some interesting stuff, and it is entertaining to read certainly. But I think one of his main agendas is to make money. That doesn't sit comfortably with me when it's presented as pseudo history. "We are all aliens". I love that. Xenophobia + any form of abuse have no place and no substance if we're all aliens. Good on you. And all my previous joking aside, you've mentioned tonight's terrors. I sincerely hope you're ok. Everytime you try to understand something that is not human, like "aliens" or God or ... you have to go beyond the human restrictions because these restrictions don't set the rules elsewhere. Yes, anyone who truly and fully believes in reincarnation and why it exists, understand that many smaller things and attitudes against people in the environment become irrelevant. Last night, during the whole stormy night(!), someone banged a large door and a window, like two times per minute(!) for hours and hours and hours, many hours, several hundred times throughout the night, so ... I couldn't sleep naturally and have had a headache today. I went to another room, which only helped slightly. I got a total of 1(!) hour sleep. By using an empty glass I could listen and figure out what appartment it was. Now I'm 100% sure! First I thought it was "just" the storm, because the large car port down at the street below also opened up and made a banging noise every now and then throughout the night during the storm. But then I realize it wasn't just someone close to me that had forgotten a window open (which certainly would have been enough as terror). I heard them talking in there you see ... they obviously were aware of the banging madness in the room next to mine. Besides, it was almost cold as in a fridge, the temperature decreased to 11°C. Indoors, in my bed! And I certainly had no window/s open. Crikey, that sounds like a full-blown, card-carrying looney tune. I don't think any sort of personal confrontation would be good with this person. Have they lived there long? Are they likely to move out + give you peace, do you think? If not then the only solution could be to give a list of complaints to the landlord / police. I don't know what laws are like re anti-social behaviour over there. Over here you can get things done but it takes time + you have to document everything: dates, times + what they were doing. |
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Post by musik on Sept 22, 2018 22:29:48 GMT
Crikey, that sounds like a full-blown, card-carrying looney tune. I don't think any sort of personal confrontation would be good with this person. Have they lived there long? Are they likely to move out + give you peace, do you think? If not then the only solution could be to give a list of complaints to the landlord / police. I don't know what laws are like re anti-social behaviour over there. Over here you can get things done but it takes time + you have to document everything: dates, times + what they were doing. As I said earlier, there are 30 households. I looked at the official existing namelist, but there were no info for two of the appartments (name or number). This was one of these two ... It could mean they've just moved in perhaps, or having secret identity (which in Sweden almost exclusively is given to criminals). I could go and see next time I'll do my washing. It mustn't but probably is the same as the nutcase in the laundry&drying rooms. I've changed my washing time from latest to lunch now anyway. When it's still some sunlight. |
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Post by elystokie on Sept 23, 2018 10:22:19 GMT
Crikey, that sounds like a full-blown, card-carrying looney tune. I don't think any sort of personal confrontation would be good with this person. Have they lived there long? Are they likely to move out + give you peace, do you think? If not then the only solution could be to give a list of complaints to the landlord / police. I don't know what laws are like re anti-social behaviour over there. Over here you can get things done but it takes time + you have to document everything: dates, times + what they were doing. As I said earlier, there are 30 households. I looked at the official existing namelist, but there were no info for two of the appartments (name or number). This was one of these two ... It could mean they've just moved in perhaps, or having secret identity (which in Sweden almost exclusively is given to criminals). I could go and see next time I'll do my washing. It mustn't but probably is the same as the nutcase in the laundry&drying rooms. I've changed my washing time from latest to lunch now anyway. When it's still some sunlight. I reckon it's time to bring Lisbeth out of retirement Musik, she'd sort it for you  |
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Post by musik on Sept 27, 2018 15:40:46 GMT
Got proof now I'm not the only one of the households bothered by what's going on in the laundry room. At least two more of my neighbours have had similar experiences; drying room door unlocked (so anyone could get in there), just minutes after they locked it themselves to go upstairs, or their washing powder being moved, for instance. It points in the direction to someone close to the laundry room.
We've (some neighbours) also discovered a radio placed somewhere above the garbage room, and it's apparently on 24/7 - not extremely loud, but enough to make sure it's heard in the background all the time - dark mellow speaking voices - could be a tape/cd on repeat. You hear the voices, but not necessarily what's being said all the time, and it's in English. We've worked in a group to find out exactly where it is. I don't know if they've succeeded to find it today. It sounds like the sound is coming from the pipes/ventilation system.
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Post by felonious on Sept 27, 2018 18:40:28 GMT
Got proof now I'm not the only one of the households bothered by what's going on in the laundry room. At least two more of my neighbours have had similar experiences; drying room door unlocked (so anyone could get in there), just minutes after they locked it themselves to go upstairs, or their washing powder being moved, for instance. It points in the direction to someone close to the laundry room. We've (some neighbours) also discovered a radio placed somewhere above the garbage room, and it's apparently on 24/7 - not extremely loud, but enough to make sure it's heard in the background all the time - dark mellow speaking voices - could be a tape/cd on repeat. You hear the voices, but not necessarily what's being said all the time, and it's in English. We've worked in a group to find out exactly where it is. I don't know if they've succeeded to find it today. It sounds like the sound is coming from the pipes/ventilation system. This could be the new Cluedo  |
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Post by felonious on Sept 27, 2018 18:45:50 GMT
Got proof now I'm not the only one of the households bothered by what's going on in the laundry room. At least two more of my neighbours have had similar experiences; drying room door unlocked (so anyone could get in there), just minutes after they locked it themselves to go upstairs, or their washing powder being moved, for instance. It points in the direction to someone close to the laundry room. We've (some neighbours) also discovered a radio placed somewhere above the garbage room, and it's apparently on 24/7 - not extremely loud, but enough to make sure it's heard in the background all the time - dark mellow speaking voices - could be a tape/cd on repeat. You hear the voices, but not necessarily what's being said all the time, and it's in English. We've worked in a group to find out exactly where it is. I don't know if they've succeeded to find it today. It sounds like the sound is coming from the pipes/ventilation system. Strange places these apartment blocks
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Post by marylandstoke on Sept 27, 2018 23:36:20 GMT
It’s coming from IN the building......
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Post by musik on Sept 27, 2018 23:47:56 GMT
Strange places these apartment blocks One person asked the caretaker online today and got a reply. He said it was no difficulty to put something like that in the ventilation system somewhere, since the canals are wide, and there are a lot of nooks in this very old building. They will take a look in and above the garbage room. If not tomorrow, next week. The former caretaker said the house was haunted though. But I'm not at all so sure about that. And next week it's laundry time again ... 😬 |
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Post by marylandstoke on Sept 27, 2018 23:55:39 GMT
At this point in your life there is little to be done about your wide canals but do make sure to keep a safe eye on your nooks (and as my mother would have added, your crannies) At this point with all the shenanigans your encountering I think you should consider doing your delicates by hand. It may take a little longer but you will have the satisfaction of a job well done in the end.
Safety first.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 2:20:07 GMT
This is absolutely my favourite oatcake thread. (Unfortunately, that also coincides with Musik not having the most fun.)
A few suspicions:
- The perpetrator has a master key? Perhaps... Or they have fashioned a makeshift Washing room key.
-Supposing this is true, What are the motivations of the said washer? Wholesale free washes? Like an ebay style; steal clothes get them washed and sell them?
- The radio thing is freaky. Is it being used to allay suspicion? or to deter others from investigation? Or more worryingly still, Is it, in fact, a taunt or worse...
-The vents is a strange ingredient in the mix, Is it conceivable one or more persons could infact be living in them?
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Post by thequietman on Sept 28, 2018 11:45:03 GMT
-The vents is a strange ingredient in the mix, Is it conceivable one or more persons could infact be living in them? Sheeet. I asked early if it might be an alien. In the vents? It could be an Alien.
Get Sigourney Weaver on the phone pronto
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Post by marylandstoke on Sept 28, 2018 15:05:33 GMT
A mysterious clan of vent people?
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Post by musik on Oct 1, 2018 18:26:14 GMT
My brother thought someone is lying dead in the appartment just over the garbage room, with the radio left on.
I don't know about that, there's no smell yet, as far as I know. Noone opens.
But people still have problems breathing when they visit my place.
It used to live a bizarre old men in the appartment of mine, who actually died in his bed, he choked to death. That bed, I was told, was placed exactly where I sleep, in the very same room.
I have a very old friend of mine, known him about 45 years. He's dead afraid of the sounds inside my thick walls. And my mother says it sounds like rats running. She knows the sound from her childhood.
Two weeks ago they found some in the basement. The care taker called the exterminator.
The day after tomorrow: laundry room! New report then.
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Post by thequietman on Oct 1, 2018 21:45:17 GMT
My brother thought someone is lying dead in the appartment just over the garbage room, with the radio left on. I don't know about that, there's no smell yet, as far as I know. Noone opens. But people still have problems breathing when they visit my place. It used to live a bizarre old men in the appartment of mine, who actually died in his bed, he choked to death. That bed, I was told, was placed exactly where I sleep, in the very same room. I have a very old friend of mine, known him about 45 years. He's dead afraid of the sounds inside my thick walls. And my mother says it sounds like rats running. She knows the sound from her childhood. Two weeks ago they found some in the basement. The care taker called the exterminator. The day after tomorrow: laundry room! New report then. Good grief, Musik. Sounds like you live in some beast-ridden medieval castle. I'd be going to the laundry room armed to the teeth. Not knives or guns; at the very least I'd have garlic, a crucifix, holy water, a hawthorn stake and a silver bullet. Although I've always wondered how a silver bullet would have worked before Donald Trump invented the gun. Catapult, maybe? Oh, and some mandrake. And some sheep to cling underneath in case it's a Cyclops down there. And a private army of priests to exorcise evil spirits. In fact, thinking about it, I'm a total coward so I'd definitely send the priests in first. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2018 22:22:20 GMT
My brother thought someone is lying dead in the appartment just over the garbage room, with the radio left on. I don't know about that, there's no smell yet, as far as I know. Noone opens. But people still have problems breathing when they visit my place. It used to live a bizarre old men in the appartment of mine, who actually died in his bed, he choked to death. That bed, I was told, was placed exactly where I sleep, in the very same room. I have a very old friend of mine, known him about 45 years. He's dead afraid of the sounds inside my thick walls. And my mother says it sounds like rats running. She knows the sound from her childhood. Two weeks ago they found some in the basement. The care taker called the exterminator. The day after tomorrow: laundry room! New report then. Good grief, Musik. Sounds like you live in some beast-ridden medieval castle. I'd be going to the laundry room armed to the teeth. Not knives or guns; at the very least I'd have garlic, a crucifix, holy water, a hawthorn stake and a silver bullet. Although I've always wondered how a silver bullet would have worked before Donald Trump invented the gun. Catapult, maybe? Oh, and some mandrake. And some sheep to cling underneath in case it's a Cyclops down there. And a private army of priests to exorcise evil spirits. In fact, thinking about it, I'm a total coward so I'd definitely send the priests in first. Reckon a penknife might do it...  |
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