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Post by Gods on Sept 7, 2018 18:36:38 GMT
I just read on wiki that he is a Dutch attacking midfield player or winger who plays for Stoke City and the Holland international team.
Is he still a going concern or is the game pretty much up for him ? I assume we still pay him handsomely I'm not quite sure what for ?
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Post by werrington on Sept 7, 2018 18:37:40 GMT
I just read on wiki that he is a Dutch attacking midfield player or winger who plays for Stoke City and the Holland international team. Is he still a going concern or is the game pretty much up for him ? I assume we still pay him handsomely I'm not quite sure what for ? He got badly injured at Walsall pre season
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 18:40:45 GMT
Poor fella is made of biscuits, didn't we just stupidly give him an extension too? Christ.
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Post by britvic72 on Sept 7, 2018 18:45:25 GMT
Poor fella is made of biscuits, didn't we just stupidly give him an extension too? Christ. Yes from the mythical money tree that gives money to the injured during their long rehabilitations. This allows us to not compete for the bigger names. I’m sure it’s a tax dodge
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 7, 2018 18:55:41 GMT
Didn’t really say what it was did they?
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Post by Gods on Sept 7, 2018 20:53:15 GMT
It must be an odd life being a professional footballer at times. He hasn't really done anything at all for 2 or 3 years and may well not even be in the country and yet each and every week £40,000 is mysteriously unloaded in to his bank account. I wonder if any player in these circumstances ever pauses for thought or even has the slightest twinge of a doubt that something is not quite right? I certainly wouldn't send the money back but I think I would at least take a moment to reflect on how preposterous the whole charade is
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Post by lordb on Sept 7, 2018 20:58:20 GMT
It must be an odd life being a professional footballer at times. He hasn't really done anything at all for 2 or 3 years and may well not even be in the country and yet each and every week £40,000 is mysteriously unloaded in to his bank account. I wonder if any player in these circumstances ever pauses for thought or even has the slightest twinge of a doubt that something is not quite right? I certainly wouldn't send the money back but I think I would at least take a moment to reflect on how preposterous the whole charade is He won't be on anywhere near that much. Injuries are part of football,fail to see what point you are making.
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Post by nonameface on Sept 7, 2018 21:19:30 GMT
Just before he got injured he was looking a top player which was the first time in ages he had played a few games. Unfortunately he reverted to type and got injured again.
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Post by jezzascfc on Sept 7, 2018 21:27:46 GMT
Affelay is like Stoke City's ex-wife - we just have an agreement to deposit funds every month for nothing in return.
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Post by Gods on Sept 7, 2018 21:36:18 GMT
It must be an odd life being a professional footballer at times. He hasn't really done anything at all for 2 or 3 years and may well not even be in the country and yet each and every week £40,000 is mysteriously unloaded in to his bank account. I wonder if any player in these circumstances ever pauses for thought or even has the slightest twinge of a doubt that something is not quite right? I certainly wouldn't send the money back but I think I would at least take a moment to reflect on how preposterous the whole charade is He won't be on anywhere near that much. Injuries are part of football,fail to see what point you are making. I'm not blaming him, I like him as a player. But nothing at all odd about residing in a different country to your employer for several years, doing nothing at all for them, and counting wheel barrows full of pound notes each week?
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Post by spawnyruud on Sept 7, 2018 21:46:20 GMT
Wouldn't insurance be covering his wages (at least partly) if he got injured?
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Post by kidcrewbob on Sept 7, 2018 22:07:42 GMT
Stop blaming the player - it is the club that dictated and / or agreed to these terms - so Coates and his band of bruvvers are squarely to blame
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 7, 2018 22:15:34 GMT
Does anyone actually know the injury he has?
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Sept 7, 2018 22:15:58 GMT
Affelay is like Stoke City's ex-wife - we just have an agreement to deposit funds every month for nothing in return. We've married a few like that!
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Post by Gods on Sept 7, 2018 22:33:25 GMT
Stop blaming the player - it is the club that dictated and / or agreed to these terms - so Coates and his band of bruvvers are squarely to blame If you mean me I wasn't blaming the player. Just saying what an odd existence it must be. Paid beyond most peoples wildest dreams and yet you don't actually do anything. Even if by some miracle he did get fit is he not 'persona non grata' at Stoke City for some reason I never understood? Once again I think he is an accomplished player. Ultimately I suppose I'm just really disappointed, prime time Affelay would be a cut above anyone in the Championship at any club full stop. But its just another thing in a long list of things that is hugely expensive and not happening for us right now.
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Post by stokesupporter on Sept 7, 2018 22:59:14 GMT
Does anyone actually know the injury he has? Heard he is terminally foreign.
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Post by Gods on Sept 7, 2018 23:08:49 GMT
Does anyone actually know the injury he has? No one knows, not even the player himself, that information is somehow lost in the mists of time.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Sept 7, 2018 23:17:53 GMT
Stop blaming the player - it is the club that dictated and / or agreed to these terms - so Coates and his band of bruvvers are squarely to blame If you mean me I wasn't blaming the player. Just saying what an odd existence it must be. Paid beyond most peoples wildest dreams and yet you don't actually do anything. Even if by some miracle he did get fit is he not 'persona non grata' at Stoke City for some reason I never understood? Once again I think he is an accomplished player. Ultimately I suppose I'm just really disappointed, prime time Affelay would be a cut above anyone in the Championship at any club full stop. But its just another thing in a long list of things that is hugely expensive and not happening for us right now. No mate not at all - it's,just another example of this club and how it's mysteriously run - players will,take whatever they can get (as I would) - the owners and those responsible must carry the can for crazy contracts and Ts & Cs generally.....I am certain that there are professional individuals in the fan base that would do better than some if not all,these clowns...
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Post by Sfance on Sept 8, 2018 0:01:07 GMT
Insurance? What’s that? Whatever it is, we don’t do it, never have and because we’re Stoke never will.
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Post by tijuanabrass on Sept 8, 2018 0:51:45 GMT
Affelay is like Stoke City's ex-wife - we just have an agreement to deposit funds every month for nothing in return. We've married a few like that! Like a profligate bigamist.
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Post by onionman on Sept 8, 2018 0:54:19 GMT
We've married a few like that! Like a profligate bigamist. A poor man's Henry VIII
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Post by GoBoks on Sept 8, 2018 1:35:13 GMT
Stop blaming the player - it is the club that dictated and / or agreed to these terms - so Coates and his band of bruvvers are squarely to blame Do you think anyone would play for the club if they were told to go put their bodies on the line week after week but if you get injured, tough luck we’re not paying you? So in what alternate universe is it Coates’ fault?
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Post by mrteddysalad on Sept 8, 2018 5:08:52 GMT
Does anyone actually know the injury he has? torn labia
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Post by colnepotter on Sept 8, 2018 5:23:21 GMT
Stop blaming the player - it is the club that dictated and / or agreed to these terms - so Coates and his band of bruvvers are squarely to blame Do you think anyone would play for the club if they were told to go put their bodies on the line week after week but if you get injured, tough luck we’re not paying you? So in what alternate universe is it Coates’ fault? Keep up. It is the Oatcake law. For everything in the world that goes wrong there must be a scapegoat. At the moment, a severe weather event in Asia would most certainly be down to either Coates, Scholes or Cartwright or all three. Come to think of it, who is to blame for the learning difficulties of the poster....
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Post by kidcrewbob on Sept 8, 2018 8:23:02 GMT
Stop blaming the player - it is the club that dictated and / or agreed to these terms - so Coates and his band of bruvvers are squarely to blame Do you think anyone would play for the club if they were told to go put their bodies on the line week after week but if you get injured, tough luck we’re not paying you? So in what alternate universe is it Coates’ fault? Not what I meant - Ts and Cs should cover reasonable levels of incapacity of course as in any walk of life - what's being alleged in this thread is that the Affalay situation appears to go beyond that and moreover could be subject to abuse - disclaimer - I know nothing of either of these allegations BUT if anything is founded there is only one person to blame, or one "body" perhaps......you cannot blame a player or his agent for signing a generous contract
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 8, 2018 8:44:56 GMT
We really should come to an agreement with him and pay up the contract. The only sensible thing to do I think.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Sept 8, 2018 9:03:42 GMT
Stop blaming the player - it is the club that dictated and / or agreed to these terms - so Coates and his band of bruvvers are squarely to blame If you mean me I wasn't blaming the player. Just saying what an odd existence it must be. Paid beyond most peoples wildest dreams and yet you don't actually do anything. Even if by some miracle he did get fit is he not 'persona non grata' at Stoke City for some reason I never understood? Once again I think he is an accomplished player. Ultimately I suppose I'm just really disappointed, prime time Affelay would be a cut above anyone in the Championship at any club full stop. But its just another thing in a long list of things that is hugely expensive and not happening for us right now. Second and third choice goalkeepers always get me. Carlo Nash had a 20 year long career and played about 12 games. Richard Wright, Stuart Taylor and to a degree Lee Grant have been the same and probably earned more than any of us do in a year in just a few weeks.
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Post by nott1 on Sept 8, 2018 9:04:00 GMT
It must be an odd life being a professional footballer at times. He hasn't really done anything at all for 2 or 3 years and may well not even be in the country and yet each and every week £40,000 is mysteriously unloaded in to his bank account. I wonder if any player in these circumstances ever pauses for thought or even has the slightest twinge of a doubt that something is not quite right? I certainly wouldn't send the money back but I think I would at least take a moment to reflect on how preposterous the whole charade is Could be worse, he could be on £70k a week and pretend he's a striker who never scores, oh.........
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Post by kidcrewbob on Sept 8, 2018 9:11:24 GMT
Do you think anyone would play for the club if they were told to go put their bodies on the line week after week but if you get injured, tough luck we’re not paying you? So in what alternate universe is it Coates’ fault? Keep up. It is the Oatcake law. For everything in the world that goes wrong there must be a scapegoat. At the moment, a severe weather event in Asia would most certainly be down to either Coates, Scholes or Cartwright or all three. Come to think of it, who is to blame for the learning difficulties of the poster.... .......says he who clearly demonstrates the inability to distinguish accountability and subsequent culpability from random apportioning and laying of unqualified blame......
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Post by thestatusquo on Sept 8, 2018 9:18:47 GMT
Does anyone actually know the injury he has? A broken heart? 😜 he’s been dogged by injuries for quite some time. Just another pro whose body isn’t up to the rigours of professional football.
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