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Post by Fred Ferret on Aug 29, 2018 7:28:02 GMT
It seems to have been very well managed all round (in terms of Berahino's attitude too). Rowett tonight: "The first day I came in Saido came to see me and wanted to see where he stood and to discuss why previous regimes had maybe ostracised him, maybe? "He said he'd been to blame for some of his actions and he was honest, which is the first step for anyone who has done something wrong and wants to start afresh. "All I said to him was forget me - if you work hard for me then you'll win me over. I told him it's the rest of his mates he has to win over, he had to earn the respect of his team-mates back and for them to trust him. Won't win me over, Rowett has been here 5 minutes and can read all the bad stories he wants. That lad is bad news and should not be here no matter how many he scores. You just can't decide to play when you feel like it. The damage done last season. Not just by him could take DECADES to put right and I will never forget that. Decades? Centuries! When youâre a stick in the mud, itâs difficult to change - isnât it? Hey, how about giving the guy some credit - he was first to contact Rowett, he has responded well. Granted, 2 or 3 good games is not âjob doneâ but itâs light years from where the guy was recently. Good job youâre not managing the players.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Aug 29, 2018 7:29:31 GMT
I never thought he would come good and his career was on the rocks.
So im happy to be proven wrong and hes finally doing all the right things in a Stoke shirt.
He cant be totally forgiven until he fires us back to the Premiership.
PLUS side is we dont need to buy ANOTHER striker it seems. With Afobe, Berahino & Crouch we finally have a good stable of strikers for the season to rely on.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 29, 2018 7:35:22 GMT
Aren't we as Stoke fans allowed to say we're happy to see Berahino play better and finally get a goal? no one's calling Saido a hero anyway either.
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Saido
Aug 29, 2018 7:45:05 GMT
Post by liathroid on Aug 29, 2018 7:45:05 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 8:05:39 GMT
Good lad, delighted he has finally bagged one - and perfect timing too as it should give him a confidence boost when he returns to the Hawthorns this weekend. He has been like a new signing in his games so far this season, I'm not getting too carried away after one goal but if he keeps up his recent form then we will start to see some of that ÂŁ12m paid off.
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Aug 29, 2018 8:13:48 GMT
I've written some shit on here about Saido, but he's proving me wrong.
I was delighted for him last night when he scored. He's got his head down and worked hard to win GR round, and his teammates by the sounds of it.
Good on him, I would love it if he scores the winner against WBA at the weekend!
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Post by essexstokey on Aug 29, 2018 8:30:04 GMT
from the bbc The world when Berahino last scored ⢠Then Sunderland boss Sam Allardyce had not yet replaced Roy Hodgson as England manager ⢠Donald Trump had not yet secured the Republican party's nomination for the 2016 United States presidential election ⢠The United Kingdom was still nearly four months away from a referendum on European Union membership ⢠France's future World Cup winner Kylian Mbappe had scored only one senior goal for Monaco ⢠Sunderland still had another season ahead of them in the Premier League, before back-to-back relegations to League One
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Post by magliarosa on Aug 29, 2018 8:52:46 GMT
Itâs funny how in this new role he is playing slightly deeper where scoring goals isnât his sole job anymore therefore the pressure is off him slightly as GR will judge him on the other aspects of his game he actually scores a goal.
Itâs clear that itâs clicking for him this season with the new manager, coaches (Phillips), position, not being the sole striker. I expect heâll play a big part of our season now and I wouldnât be surprised if he manages to score 10+ goals.
Hard work pays off!
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Post by lordb on Aug 29, 2018 8:56:55 GMT
It's great that he's finally scored however I'm more impressed that he's playing well in each game. He's now an asset.
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Saido
Aug 29, 2018 9:15:41 GMT
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Post by Beraâs Beano on Aug 29, 2018 9:15:41 GMT
It does not matter, because the only way it can be an own goal is if the defender deflected a ball that was not otherwise going in. Not sure itâs quite as simple as that is it? but take your point It pretty much is as simple as that. If not youâd have to give an own goal every time a keeper gets a hand on a shot but canât stop it going in. It was a good reaction and nice finish. Thatâs the catalyst now...
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Post by onefatcopper on Aug 29, 2018 9:45:30 GMT
Well a weeks a long time in football !, well done to saido and I hope the floodgates have opened, but hands up who saw saido as a N/o 10 ? So massive credit has to go to Rowett who saw something that most of us didnât .
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 29, 2018 10:09:15 GMT
It seems to have been very well managed all round (in terms of Berahino's attitude too). Rowett tonight: "The first day I came in Saido came to see me and wanted to see where he stood and to discuss why previous regimes had maybe ostracised him, maybe? "He said he'd been to blame for some of his actions and he was honest, which is the first step for anyone who has done something wrong and wants to start afresh. "All I said to him was forget me - if you work hard for me then you'll win me over. I told him it's the rest of his mates he has to win over, he had to earn the respect of his team-mates back and for them to trust him. Won't win me over, Rowett has been here 5 minutes and can read all the bad stories he wants. That lad is bad news and should not be here no matter how many he scores. You just can't decide to play when you feel like it. The damage done last season. Not just by him could take DECADES to put right and I will never forget that. What a load of absolute bollocks.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 29, 2018 10:10:49 GMT
Aren't we as Stoke fans allowed to say we're happy to see Berahino play better and finally get a goal? no one's calling Saido a hero anyway either. Apparently not, but it really is that simple.
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Saido
Aug 29, 2018 10:40:30 GMT
Post by neilb987 on Aug 29, 2018 10:40:30 GMT
Well a weeks a long time in football !, well done to saido and I hope the floodgates have opened, but hands up who saw saido as a N/o 10 ? So massive credit has to go to Rowett who saw something that most of us didnât . Maybe - just maybe - his new position as a No.10 really suits him better than playing as a lone striker? Nothing to say you can't score goals from a deeper position. Still think he needs to work on the accuracy of his shooting, but that's true of most of the team anyway!
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Saido
Aug 29, 2018 10:43:40 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 10:43:40 GMT
Well a weeks a long time in football !, well done to saido and I hope the floodgates have opened, but hands up who saw saido as a N/o 10 ? So massive credit has to go to Rowett who saw something that most of us didnât . Maybe - just maybe - his new position as a No.10 really suits him better than playing as a lone striker? Nothing to say you can't score goals from a deeper position. Still think he needs to work on the accuracy of his shooting, but that's true of most of the team anyway! Similar to Defoe, one of Berahino's trademarks when he was firing were his strikes from outside the box with very little back lift. This role in theory should suit him down to the ground and in a funny way might give him more chance of becoming prolific again. Early days though.....
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Post by metalhead on Aug 29, 2018 11:06:23 GMT
Well a weeks a long time in football !, well done to saido and I hope the floodgates have opened, but hands up who saw saido as a N/o 10 ? So massive credit has to go to Rowett who saw something that most of us didnât . or Kevin Phillips? He has been working with Saido on a daily basis apparently. Superb work though. He looks reborn. He's been consistently one of our best players for 3 or so games now. Long may it continue.
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Saido
Aug 29, 2018 11:08:08 GMT
Post by metalhead on Aug 29, 2018 11:08:08 GMT
It seems to have been very well managed all round (in terms of Berahino's attitude too). Rowett tonight: "The first day I came in Saido came to see me and wanted to see where he stood and to discuss why previous regimes had maybe ostracised him, maybe? "He said he'd been to blame for some of his actions and he was honest, which is the first step for anyone who has done something wrong and wants to start afresh. "All I said to him was forget me - if you work hard for me then you'll win me over. I told him it's the rest of his mates he has to win over, he had to earn the respect of his team-mates back and for them to trust him. Won't win me over, Rowett has been here 5 minutes and can read all the bad stories he wants. That lad is bad news and should not be here no matter how many he scores. You just can't decide to play when you feel like it. The damage done last season. Not just by him could take DECADES to put right and I will never forget that. Jesus.... that entire post is painful to read on so many levels.
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Post by mrred on Aug 29, 2018 11:12:51 GMT
Nothing more satisfying than seeing a player that's seemingly got a career on it's arse, grab it by the bollocks and work hard to rectify it. He's got his head out of his arse and working for the team. Well in lad. Let's hope it's the start of a health relationship relationship for us.
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Saido
Aug 29, 2018 11:35:44 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 11:35:44 GMT
Won't win me over, Rowett has been here 5 minutes and can read all the bad stories he wants. That lad is bad news and should not be here no matter how many he scores. You just can't decide to play when you feel like it. The damage done last season. Not just by him could take DECADES to put right and I will never forget that. A season or two in this league will do us good, we needed it because we had lost our way. We will get rid of the shite and mercenaries go up a better team What a load of crap, no season in this league is good, the gap between us and the rest is just opening up again.
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Saido
Aug 29, 2018 11:38:05 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 11:38:05 GMT
Won't win me over, Rowett has been here 5 minutes and can read all the bad stories he wants. That lad is bad news and should not be here no matter how many he scores. You just can't decide to play when you feel like it. The damage done last season. Not just by him could take DECADES to put right and I will never forget that. Maybe you could support him while he's a Stoke player. Maybe some of our so called fans could support McLean who's goal that should have been last night. That lad gives what he has and has done more this season than Berahino did for the last Two.
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Saido
Aug 29, 2018 11:41:40 GMT
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Post by Clem Fandango on Aug 29, 2018 11:41:40 GMT
Goal or no goal itâs nice to see the lad actually playing well. Up until the last few games you only saw fleeting glimpses of him being involved. Certainly the last two games heâs looked hungry and actively seeking the ball and pressing.
Hope he keeps it up because he could be very important for us.
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Saido
Aug 29, 2018 11:53:17 GMT
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Post by berahinosgoals on Aug 29, 2018 11:53:17 GMT
A season or two in this league will do us good, we needed it because we had lost our way. We will get rid of the shite and mercenaries go up a better team What a load of crap, no season in this league is good, the gap between us and the rest is just opening up again. Its given us the opportunity to regroup and build a solid outfit instead of keep chucking mud at the wall hoping something will stick and buying players soley because they have a short contract then try to shoehorn them into the group to create a team. We completely lost the plot and direction of which way we were going, it was a complete cluster fuck in the end with one window spent trying to repair the damage of the last window. Me personally, I don't care if we fall way behind in the pecking order for another group of " not good enough for the top teams, but i'll happily take a wage off stoke" mercenaries. Regardless of how successful we are by doing it I'd like to think upon return to the premiership our idea of a good player is a whole different idea than last time. By then i'd like to think we have vast knowledge of the lower leagues and players that see stoke as a step up instead of a pay day. Obviously it won't happen under rowett's reign but in future, if the silly money of the premiership continues instead of paying vastly over the odds for average players and players who see us as a last resort i'd like us to spend the lions share on buying the best youth & top clubs U23's players and become a club known for chucking them in which in turn would make it easier to attract them. This won't happen with a manager tasked with finishing as high as possible, this would happen by promoting within as a head coach to manage the team. It's the way forward imo
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Post by PotterLog on Aug 29, 2018 11:53:19 GMT
Not sure itâs quite as simple as that is it? but take your point It pretty much is as simple as that. If not youâd have to give an own goal every time a keeper gets a hand on a shot but canât stop it going in. No you wouldnât, thatâs just simplifying it the other way. E.g. if a defender shanks a straightforward clearance into the top left corner, theyâre still going to give it as an own goal even if the ball was originally trickling towards the bottom right of the goal.. Anyway youâre probably right in this case
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Saido
Aug 29, 2018 11:57:36 GMT
Post by kustokie on Aug 29, 2018 11:57:36 GMT
He's a hero now all of a sudden??? He was purchased for 12M to hit the ground running and perform. He failed to do that and his failure to do the job which he is paid 70k per week to do is one reason why this club went down and is playing in this league with the likes of Rotheram and Nottingham Forest. Don't forget his persistent lateness, being too heavy, and his drinking and womanising. Is he a hero now? No,not in my eyes unless he blasts in 30 plus goals and gets us back up ASAP. He owes this club BIG TIME. I am not sure he was expected to hit the ground running, but one goal in 3 years is not what was expected. With respect to pay, strikers generally have incentive bonuses based on goals scored (hence the handbags last season about who should take penalties). Anyway, hopefully he has put that behind him and heâs ready to move on.
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Saido
Aug 29, 2018 12:47:15 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 12:47:15 GMT
During Saido's goal drought between February 2016 and August 2018, Harry Kane scored over 100 goals.
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Post by fca47 on Aug 29, 2018 12:52:19 GMT
All this praise is a bit premature. Even last night he fell over when he had a reasonable chance, he needs to carry on improving to justify even half his fee.
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Post by foster on Aug 29, 2018 12:52:54 GMT
Happy he scored, but he needs to play a starring role in a successful season to win me over. He played a big part in us going down and now needs to play a big part in us going back up.
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Saido
Aug 29, 2018 15:25:04 GMT
Post by shimmer on Aug 29, 2018 15:25:04 GMT
May I just congratulate him, lets hope this is the new dawn of top scorer.
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Saido
Aug 29, 2018 15:35:34 GMT
Post by stokeson on Aug 29, 2018 15:35:34 GMT
Making the TV news for scoring a goal can only be a good thing.The Baggies fans will be proper gutted if he scores Sat(which he will.)Im starting to enjoy being a Stoke fan again......
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Saido
Aug 29, 2018 15:48:48 GMT
Post by Sfance on Aug 29, 2018 15:48:48 GMT
Jury's still a long way from coming back in, but I have to a admit, things are looking a bit better for the wastrel. Says a lot more about Rowett than Berahino, I would think.
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