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Post by ChrisKamarasPerm on Aug 22, 2018 21:44:18 GMT
Now I'm not saying the above players are great players but Rowett seems to have totally shunned them well on tonight's performance all 3 would walk into that current team and improve it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 21:44:57 GMT
Ok Pulis
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Aug 22, 2018 21:45:30 GMT
Cameron worst player on the books.
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Post by stokecitydom on Aug 22, 2018 21:47:04 GMT
They have to be brought back into the squad.
Swallow your pride & get them in.
Choupo-Moting has more talent in his little toe than James McLean.
I’d rather have Imbula ambling around than Fletcher chasing shadows.
Geoff has to offer something in defence too.
Desperate times
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 21:47:14 GMT
I don't care if Choupo doesn't give a fuck or track back, he's miles better than mcclean or ince
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Post by iglugluk on Aug 22, 2018 21:48:33 GMT
Depressing
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Post by ChrisKamarasPerm on Aug 22, 2018 21:49:38 GMT
They have to be brought back into the squad. Swallow your pride & get them in. Choupo-Moting has more talent in his little toe than James McLean. I’d rather have Imbula ambling around than Fletcher chasing shadows. Geoff has to offer something in defence too. Desperate times Totally agree with that post. |
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Post by scfc5 on Aug 22, 2018 21:50:06 GMT
Sounds like he’s contemplating it from his Radio Stoke interview just.
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Post by ChrisKamarasPerm on Aug 22, 2018 21:51:44 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 22, 2018 21:54:28 GMT
They have to be brought back into the squad. Swallow your pride & get them in. Choupo-Moting has more talent in his little toe than James McLean. I’d rather have Imbula ambling around than Fletcher chasing shadows. Geoff has to offer something in defence too. Desperate times Moting doesnt want to play for us. You cant play a player who's not trying. Geoff I think would always try. Imbula has a talent but would only work in a 3 but again I dont think he'll try. This is the problem we have. Lots of players who wont even try and we cant move on or wont till its to late to get in a replacement. |
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Post by ChrisKamarasPerm on Aug 22, 2018 21:56:34 GMT
They have to be brought back into the squad. Swallow your pride & get them in. Choupo-Moting has more talent in his little toe than James McLean. I’d rather have Imbula ambling around than Fletcher chasing shadows. Geoff has to offer something in defence too. Desperate times Moting doesnt want to play for us. You cant play a player who's not trying. Geoff I think would always try. Imbula has a talent but would only work in a 3 but again I dont think he'll try. This is the problem we have. Lots of players who wont even try and we cant move on or wont till its to late to get in a replacement. The players currently playing are not trying. Can it be any worse ? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 21:57:02 GMT
Rowett can't manage flair.
Bojan on the wing proves it. I said the other day he'll try the age old trick of throwing him under a bus to get the crowd to stop singing his name and today was move number one.
He'll start him on Saturday and sub him off when it inevitably goes tits up.
He moaned about his workrate after the Brentford game yet leaves his mate Afobe on the pitch and subs off Berahino, who ran his guts out.
He hasn't got a scooby.
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Post by stonestokie76 on Aug 22, 2018 21:57:40 GMT
Sorry that.is wrong, Chopu told the club he was not going to play in the champ and him and others are now efficectily bankrupting our club. We will have these players until 2021-22 and between them earn about 250k a week. Also add Wimmer if they don't purchase at end of loan.
Think of that for a moment. Now think who gave them the contracts and why are our most highly paid players nowhere near first team?
Now imagine asking these very same players who are rotting the club and saying sorry, fancy playing again?!, That is just crazy!!!
Think how many clubs have that much money and wages tied to players who will never play for the club, the answer is none in the EFL bar maybe QPR, but our scale of outlay is much higher!!!
Finally realise the very same people are buying players for the club are the same that did all of the above.
Only then do you realise the magnitude of our problems.
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Post by pottersrule on Aug 22, 2018 21:59:28 GMT
They have to be brought back into the squad. Swallow your pride & get them in. Choupo-Moting has more talent in his little toe than James McLean. I’d rather have Imbula ambling around than Fletcher chasing shadows. Geoff has to offer something in defence too. Desperate times Moting doesnt want to play for us. You cant play a player who's not trying. Geoff I think would always try. Imbula has a talent but would only work in a 3 but again I dont think he'll try. This is the problem we have. Lots of players who wont even try and we cant move on or wont till its to late to get in a replacement. The deadwood will kill us.Whoever manages us will have that millstone around his neck and it is a massive problem. |
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Post by stokecitydom on Aug 22, 2018 22:01:07 GMT
Sorry that.is wrong, Chopu told the club he was not going to play in the champ and him and others are now efficectily bankrupting our club. We will have these players until 2021-22 and between them earn about 250k a week. Also add Wimmer if they don't purchase at end of loan. Think of that for a moment. Now think who gave them the contracts and why are our most highly paid players nowhere near first team? Now imagine asking these very same players who are rotting the club and saying sorry, fancy playing again?!, That is just crazy!!! Think how many clubs have that much money and wages tied to players who will never play for the club, the answer is none in the EFL bar maybe QPR, but our scale of outlay is much higher!!! Finally realise the very same people are buying players for the club are the same that did all of the above. Only then do you realise the magnitude of our problems. So he’s refusing to play but taking the money from his contract. Absolute nonsense. |
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Post by stonestokie76 on Aug 22, 2018 22:03:20 GMT
Sorry that.is wrong, Chopu told the club he was not going to play in the champ and him and others are now efficectily bankrupting our club. We will have these players until 2021-22 and between them earn about 250k a week. Also add Wimmer if they don't purchase at end of loan. Think of that for a moment. Now think who gave them the contracts and why are our most highly paid players nowhere near first team? Now imagine asking these very same players who are rotting the club and saying sorry, fancy playing again?!, That is just crazy!!! Think how many clubs have that much money and wages tied to players who will never play for the club, the answer is none in the EFL bar maybe QPR, but our scale of outlay is much higher!!! Finally realise the very same people are buying players for the club are the same that did all of the above. Only then do you realise the magnitude of our problems. So he’s refusing to play but taking the money from his contract. Absolute nonsense. Yes pretty much, told us not playing we are trying to sell he has said no to all offers, basically sitting on his contract. Imbula likely to do exactly the same. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 22, 2018 22:04:22 GMT
They have to be brought back into the squad. Swallow your pride & get them in. Choupo-Moting has more talent in his little toe than James McLean.
I’d rather have Imbula ambling around than Fletcher chasing shadows. Geoff has to offer something in defence too. Desperate times NDiaye shows what happens when a player doesn't want to play for a club, i really don't think it would go well. |
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Post by ChrisKamarasPerm on Aug 22, 2018 22:05:11 GMT
They have to be brought back into the squad. Swallow your pride & get them in. Choupo-Moting has more talent in his little toe than James McLean.
I’d rather have Imbula ambling around than Fletcher chasing shadows. Geoff has to offer something in defence too. Desperate times NDiaye shows what happens when a player doesn't want to play for a club, i really don't think it would go well. And it's going well now with players who apparently do want to play for the club. |
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Post by stokemark on Aug 22, 2018 22:05:18 GMT
Sorry that.is wrong, Chopu told the club he was not going to play in the champ and him and others are now efficectily bankrupting our club. We will have these players until 2021-22 and between them earn about 250k a week. Also add Wimmer if they don't purchase at end of loan. Think of that for a moment. Now think who gave them the contracts and why are our most highly paid players nowhere near first team? Now imagine asking these very same players who are rotting the club and saying sorry, fancy playing again?!, That is just crazy!!! Think how many clubs have that much money and wages tied to players who will never play for the club, the answer is none in the EFL bar maybe QPR, but our scale of outlay is much higher!!! Finally realise the very same people are buying players for the club are the same that did all of the above. Only then do you realise the magnitude of our problems. On the money The transfer team have failed miserably at getting rid of th dead wood that they themselves gave contracts to None of this is Rowetts fault - he is as much a victim of this shit as we all are albeit he really has made some poor decisions which under ordinary circumstances would be deemed understandable given the shit show he has taken over |
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Post by stokecitydom on Aug 22, 2018 22:06:02 GMT
They have to be brought back into the squad. Swallow your pride & get them in. Choupo-Moting has more talent in his little toe than James McLean.
I’d rather have Imbula ambling around than Fletcher chasing shadows. Geoff has to offer something in defence too. Desperate times NDiaye shows what happens when a player doesn't want to play for a club, i really don't think it would go well. Well it’s going bloody well so far isn’t it? |
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Post by chad on Aug 22, 2018 22:06:09 GMT
Unfortunately the “deadwood “ we have around the place are far better players than the ones who’ve got the shirt
If someone could get a tune from Imbula, Choupo,Etebo and Ndiaye that’s 40% of a bloody good side
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 22, 2018 22:06:33 GMT
NDiaye shows what happens when a player doesn't want to play for a club, i really don't think it would go well. And it's going well now with players who apparently do want to play for the club. No its not but there's no point swapping one waster for another, we need improvement not more of the same. |
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Post by pottersrule on Aug 22, 2018 22:09:41 GMT
Cameron worst player on the books. There were 6 or 7 pushing him close tonight. |
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Post by stonestokie76 on Aug 22, 2018 22:09:44 GMT
They have to be brought back into the squad. Swallow your pride & get them in. Choupo-Moting has more talent in his little toe than James McLean.
I’d rather have Imbula ambling around than Fletcher chasing shadows. Geoff has to offer something in defence too. Desperate times NDiaye shows what happens when a player doesn't want to play for a club, i really don't think it would go well. Totally agree as per my point above, they will care,.play poorly but take home 70k . Our downfall started the moment we.spent 18.3M on Imbula. Now stuck with a few of these players on top 6 premier league money on contracts to 2021-2022. Who don't intend earning a penny less, but noone will offer them a quarter of what we are paying them. We can't sign more players when so much money is tied up. Only thing we can but won't as it would be crazy is to.simply write off the asset and pay them up. However that in itself is likely to cost 20+ Mill! |
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Aug 23, 2018 8:26:24 GMT
Cameron worst player on the books. There were 6 or 7 pushing him close tonight. Only pushing him close though  |
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Post by mattface on Aug 23, 2018 8:28:38 GMT
They have to be brought back into the squad. Swallow your pride & get them in. Choupo-Moting has more talent in his little toe than James McLean. I’d rather have Imbula ambling around than Fletcher chasing shadows. Geoff has to offer something in defence too. Desperate times So much this - overall needed |
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Post by generationex on Aug 23, 2018 9:09:41 GMT
You can’t lump Cameron in with the Me-Me-Me Possee. Whatever his limitations he’s a committed professional.
The other dirty half-dozen’s a different box of fish. They don’t want to be here and contribute to a bad dressing room. Lambert was spot on when he realised the first job was to get them away from the team and dressing room.
GR’s got to be more ruthless. Drive them out even if they have to be paid for serving burgers at half-time.
The board has to accept their recruitment ‘strategy’ has cost a £100 million plus. Those that do not want to play for Stoke City are a cancer within.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 23, 2018 9:13:35 GMT
I think Cameron went downhill severely after his serious concussion but even taking that into account, I find his exclusion from the squad rather odd. He strikes me as a solid professional, a type Rowett would like... sod knows what's going on behind the scenes.
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 23, 2018 9:16:03 GMT
Moting has categorically stated he will not play Championship Football.
He didn't even want to play Premiership football!
Imbula couldn't give a shit either. That is no secret. We need 100% commitment at the moment.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Aug 23, 2018 9:16:38 GMT
Why are you lumping Etebo in with the 'deadwood'? I think he'll come good once we have a system and tactics to accommodate him. Over to you Gary.
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