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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2018 21:32:55 GMT
I haven't seen much of him but this is the position we should have sorted out nearer to the beginning of the summer.
This would be a welcome signing. It sounds like he's a quality player at this level.
We need him to be ready to play straight away.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Aug 20, 2018 21:35:44 GMT
If we sign this boy then the Stoke fans better show him loads of patience. It one thing settling into a new club but having to deal with a loss and possible house move for family is going to be one big challenge. He'll be fine. We're renowned for our patience.
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 20, 2018 21:38:22 GMT
I can't remember to ever have seen him play, but I like that we bring in young and upcoming players with a future and a promising past.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2018 21:42:58 GMT
Can we include Watkins and Sawyers in the deal as well please ? If only. Buy one get two free
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 20, 2018 21:43:44 GMT
Can't wait for Bayern to get back from his Zumba class so he can vouch for this lad.
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 20, 2018 21:45:16 GMT
Two questions (because I know nothing about this lad)
1. If he is so good why has he not played so far this season?
2. Why are we waiting until after the permanent window has closed to be making these kind of moves? We’ve had all summer to sign players?
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 20, 2018 21:46:50 GMT
I haven't seen much of him but this is the position we should have sorted out nearer to the beginning of the summer. This would be a welcome signing. It sounds like he's a quality player at this level. We need him to be ready to play straight away. I hope we get it done. He appears to be player of some potential. But I will echo a few other posts and ask why we haven't brought him in earlier. Rowett didn't need to be in the building to know that we are desperate for a CDM and have been since Whelan started to slow down about 3 years ago. Just about everybody connected to SCFC surely knew we needed a CDM. Someone suggested Rowett needed to look at the players....why? It's blindingly obvious yet we really haven't been linked with a CDM all window. You would think a conversation would have taken place about where the urgent need was in the squad and have a list of possible candidates and Rowett surely would have added Woods name to that list. Brentford would clearly sell so why is he not already here? Our transfer strategy continues to be absolutely baffling. As for Etebo....Just like Bauer Etebo wasn't his signing so neither will get a start...it's politics something a previous manager did regualrly. The more I see of Rowett the more I am convinced he's a clone of the capped one.
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 20, 2018 21:47:56 GMT
I haven't seen much of him but this is the position we should have sorted out nearer to the beginning of the summer. This would be a welcome signing. It sounds like he's a quality player at this level. We need him to be ready to play straight away. I hope we get it done. He appears to be player of some potential. But I will echo a few other posts and ask why we haven't brought him in earlier. Rowett didn't need to be in the building to know that we are desperate for a CDM and have been since Whelan started to slow down about 3 years ago. Just about everybody connected to SCFC surely knew we needed a CDM. Someone suggested Rowett needed to look at the players....why? It's blindingly obvious yet we really haven't been linked with a CDM all window. You would think a conversation would have taken place about where the urgent need was in the squad and have a list of possible candidates and Rowett surely would have added Woods name to that list. Brentford would clearly sell so why is he not already here? Our transfer strategy continues to be absolutely baffling. As for Etebo....Just like Bauer Etebo wasn't his signing so neither will get a start...it's politics something a previous manager did regualrly. The more I see of Rowett the more I am convinced he's a clone of the capped one. Isn’t that what Clukas has been signed to do?
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Post by tony1234 on Aug 20, 2018 21:51:37 GMT
Can we include Watkins and Sawyers in the deal as well please ? If only. Buy one get two free Feels like precisely the sort of players we should have been targeting this summer. Start to build from the future with younger Champs stars and other starlets who've proven themselves at this level, but with room to go further. We couldn't get rid of enough of the old guard fast enough, unfortunately. If we'd struck while the iron was hot, could have got 30m-32m for Allen and N'Diaye and bought these two, on much lower wages, and still had change for McGinn and Douglas!.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2018 21:51:57 GMT
Can we include Watkins and Sawyers in the deal as well please ? If only. Buy one get two free Sawyers was ace.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2018 21:59:01 GMT
I haven't seen much of him but this is the position we should have sorted out nearer to the beginning of the summer. This would be a welcome signing. It sounds like he's a quality player at this level. We need him to be ready to play straight away. I hope we get it done. He appears to be player of some potential. But I will echo a few other posts and ask why we haven't brought him in earlier. Rowett didn't need to be in the building to know that we are desperate for a CDM and have been since Whelan started to slow down about 3 years ago. Just about everybody connected to SCFC surely knew we needed a CDM. Someone suggested Rowett needed to look at the players....why? It's blindingly obvious yet we really haven't been linked with a CDM all window. You would think a conversation would have taken place about where the urgent need was in the squad and have a list of possible candidates and Rowett surely would have added Woods name to that list. Brentford would clearly sell so why is he not already here? Our transfer strategy continues to be absolutely baffling. As for Etebo....Just like Bauer Etebo wasn't his signing so neither will get a start...it's politics something a previous manager did regualrly. The more I see of Rowett the more I am convinced he's a clone of the capped one. Who knows how long Alan is with us. Etebo could be his long term replacement.
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Post by RF10 on Aug 20, 2018 22:17:03 GMT
Strange you say that as I myself had some ginger nuts yesterday. I think we both deserve serious credit for this transfer if it does come off. I suppose you've been eating chocolate digestives before changing? It's all about the chocolate hobnobs.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 20, 2018 22:29:41 GMT
Two questions (because I know nothing about this lad) 1. If he is so good why has he not played so far this season? 2. Why are we waiting until after the permanent window has closed to be making these kind of moves? We’ve had all summer to sign players? Maybe Rowett wanted to see what was needed after a couple of competitive games, on paper our group of midfielders look decent enough, but as we've seen they're anything but.
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Post by cpfwizard on Aug 20, 2018 22:40:29 GMT
Any chance of the pizza boys getting this done in time for a debut vs Hull?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 20, 2018 22:43:00 GMT
Can't wait for Bayern to get back from his Zumba class so he can vouch for this lad. Never heard of him until this summer. Seems a much better fit to what we need than the players we have and fatty Huddlestone though. Massive questions over why we’ve waited this long mind when he’s been available all summer and we’ve been crying out for a DM.
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Post by rawli on Aug 20, 2018 22:48:18 GMT
I suppose you've been eating chocolate digestives before changing? It's all about the chocolate hobnobs. Glad you weren't on the garibaldis
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Post by tony1234 on Aug 20, 2018 22:48:48 GMT
I hope we get it done. He appears to be player of some potential. But I will echo a few other posts and ask why we haven't brought him in earlier. Rowett didn't need to be in the building to know that we are desperate for a CDM and have been since Whelan started to slow down about 3 years ago. Just about everybody connected to SCFC surely knew we needed a CDM. Someone suggested Rowett needed to look at the players....why? It's blindingly obvious yet we really haven't been linked with a CDM all window. You would think a conversation would have taken place about where the urgent need was in the squad and have a list of possible candidates and Rowett surely would have added Woods name to that list. Brentford would clearly sell so why is he not already here? Our transfer strategy continues to be absolutely baffling. As for Etebo....Just like Bauer Etebo wasn't his signing so neither will get a start...it's politics something a previous manager did regualrly. The more I see of Rowett the more I am convinced he's a clone of the capped one. Who knows how long Alan is with us. Etebo could be his long term replacement. So, when we say we haven't been linked with a CDM - are they under our noses? Whelan was a great servant and super player in his own way, but think that part of the issue was that the game has moved on since Whelan did his stuff at his peak. A CDM 10-15 years ago could be a mix of 'getting the foot in' or an older player adpet at "reading the game" and spraying passes about. There are always exceptions, but the modern incarnation seems to be less a "hard nut", but neither are they some Pirlo-esque (or at our level Huddlestone-esque) type.... They are quite fast athletic players who rapidly cover the ground, are very intelligent about positioning-wise. The new variant collects the ball alot from the back 2-3 CBs or CMs (so needs to be technically strong) and has lots of touches; they need a turn of pace to break with the ball quickly from danger, to gain 10-20 yards to make ground, and lay off good fast passes to wings or front men. Whelan was great at parts of this, his intelligent positioning often went un-heralded. Perhaps his technique/control, limited passing and speed were the reasons though we shouldn't look for our next CDM to look like Whelan. Most would say Kante is the absolute Rolls Royce of this breed. Neves was a pretty good example for Wolves last year. In the PL, at club level, Fred appears to have these characteristics, replacing Carrick who was more old-school (https://talksport.com/football/379486/manchester-united-fc-transfer-news-who-fred-profile-red-devils-latest-signing-180605285058/), Ndidi, Livermore and Dier have done the job well for their clubs.. But these are qualities that Clucas or Etobo both have too. - (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-3475471/Hull-City-midfielder-Sam-Clucas-energy-attitude-technical-ability-Premier-League-season.html). I think its what Rowett wanted from McNair too.. Are these the holding players, 2017 style?
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 20, 2018 22:52:46 GMT
Supporters player of the year last season. Dynamic holding midfield player. When was the last time we signed a player on the way up and not a player on the way down? I like the sounds of this one. Exactly what we need. It would suggest that Clucas hasnt been brought here specifically to be the first choice DCM. Left back.
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Post by Gods on Aug 20, 2018 22:57:50 GMT
I haven't seen much of him but this is the position we should have sorted out nearer to the beginning of the summer. This would be a welcome signing. It sounds like he's a quality player at this level. We need him to be ready to play straight away. I hope we get it done. He appears to be player of some potential. But I will echo a few other posts and ask why we haven't brought him in earlier. Rowett didn't need to be in the building to know that we are desperate for a CDM and have been since Whelan started to slow down about 3 years ago. Just about everybody connected to SCFC surely knew we needed a CDM. Someone suggested Rowett needed to look at the players....why? It's blindingly obvious yet we really haven't been linked with a CDM all window. You would think a conversation would have taken place about where the urgent need was in the squad and have a list of possible candidates and Rowett surely would have added Woods name to that list. Brentford would clearly sell so why is he not already here? Our transfer strategy continues to be absolutely baffling. As for Etebo....Just like Bauer Etebo wasn't his signing so neither will get a start...it's politics something a previous manager did regualrly. The more I see of Rowett the more I am convinced he's a clone of the capped one. Didn't Rowett join Stoke City in May and Etebo was signed in June? He may not have scouted him but if he didn't want him he might have said so!
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 20, 2018 23:00:31 GMT
Really hope this happens a 3 of Woods, Clucas and Allen would be brilliant. Lots of legs and skill. I wonder if Gary Rowett would consider playing Etebo on the Left right as an inside forward. If you're playing Woods and Clucas (which would be fantastic in my opinion) we need a proper number 10 playing in front of them.
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Post by greyface on Aug 20, 2018 23:05:10 GMT
Supporters player of the year last season. Dynamic holding midfield player. When was the last time we signed a player on the way up and not a player on the way down? I like the sounds of this one. Wasn’t Danny Collins Supporters Player of the season when we signed him from Sunderland?
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Post by hooftastic on Aug 20, 2018 23:13:54 GMT
Surely its only a matter of time before the board see sense and offer Huddlestone a 4 year deal....
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Post by StokeTudoGuy on Aug 20, 2018 23:30:08 GMT
Can't tackle and does not put in a defensive shift.... Hardly what we need, Can't believe the fawning tripe I'm seeing on here.
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Post by PotterLog on Aug 20, 2018 23:39:25 GMT
Supporters player of the year last season. Dynamic holding midfield player. When was the last time we signed a player on the way up and not a player on the way down? I like the sounds of this one. Wasn’t Danny Collins Supporters Player of the season when we signed him from Sunderland? Wasn’t that basically an elaborate in-joke about how bad they were that season? Sadly we ended up being the punchline...
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Post by ethers26 on Aug 20, 2018 23:51:49 GMT
Have we ever bought s player the other team were desperate not to lose? Jack Butland probably the only one.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 21, 2018 0:22:43 GMT
Wasn’t Danny Collins Supporters Player of the season when we signed him from Sunderland? Wasn’t that basically an elaborate in-joke about how bad they were that season? Sadly we ended up being the punchline... No he actually got it, he also got North East Football Writers' Player of the Year the same season too
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Post by onefatcopper on Aug 21, 2018 0:27:49 GMT
Can't tackle and does not put in a defensive shift.... Hardly what we need, Can't believe the fawning tripe I'm seeing on here. Go on , piss on everyone’s parade why don’t you ?
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Aug 21, 2018 2:02:43 GMT
Can we include Watkins and Sawyers in the deal as well please ? If only. Buy one get two free Feels like precisely the sort of players we should have been targeting this summer. Start to build from the future with younger Champs stars and other starlets who've proven themselves at this level, but with room to go further. We couldn't get rid of enough of the old guard fast enough, unfortunately. If we'd struck while the iron was hot, could have got 30m-32m for Allen and N'Diaye and bought these two, on much lower wages, and still had change for McGinn and Douglas!. 100 percent.
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Post by NassauDave on Aug 21, 2018 2:29:16 GMT
He also has a tender family situation, in that his wife and child are not in the country and are living "back at home". I'm not sure if home is Nigeria, Portugal or wherever. Either way, not ideal for a 22 year old lad at a new club, new league, new lifestyle and probably no new home yet. Etebo is still living in a hotel So is Jose Mourinho.....must be the reward points plus free wi fi.
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Post by hanibal7 on Aug 21, 2018 3:08:40 GMT
I can't remember to ever have seen him play, but I like that we bring in young and upcoming players with a future and a promising past. Like Edwards and Tymon, not forgetting Sorenson and Campbell.
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