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Post by PotterLog on Aug 18, 2018 19:07:08 GMT
Play Bojan. Just play fucking Bojan. I don't care if he has a game or two where he barely touches the ball, he's like a squizillion times better than any other player we have, apart from maybe Ince who he's only a zillion times better than. Just fucking play him, every game. He will score some goals and create some chances that one or other of the other fucking donkeys might bundle in. Unless we pull two absolutely fucking zinging loan signings out of the bag in the next however many days it is, he's our man. Just fucking play Bojan.
sorry there's probably another thread isn't there but fuck it this is urgent
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Post by kidcrewbob on Aug 18, 2018 19:14:34 GMT
Bojan must wonder what the fuck happened to his life these past 3 years - we've ruined him
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 19:19:44 GMT
Bojan must wonder what the fuck happened to his life these past 3 years - we've ruined him How exactly have stoke ruined him? He suffered a terrible injury and was never the same player after. He’s failed at every club he’s been to on loan. |
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Post by kidcrewbob on Aug 18, 2018 19:25:57 GMT
Bojan must wonder what the fuck happened to his life these past 3 years - we've ruined him How exactly have stoke ruined him? He suffered a terrible injury and was never the same player after. He’s failed at every club he’s been to on loan. We should have built a team around him and not surround him with an ever decreasing talent pool - aka shower of shit - from Barca to warming the bench at fucking Deepdale, And he would never have suffered such an injury if that stupid c@nt Hughes hadn't made him play a nothing game - you look after your top talent not risk them on a shit pitch against lower division cloggers |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 19:27:10 GMT
It's obvious our new manager doesn't 'do' flair, so give this one up as a bad job.
He'll do a hatchet job on him, play him in fits and starts and hope he steps out of line. Then he'll be gone.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 19:27:28 GMT
How exactly have stoke ruined him? He suffered a terrible injury and was never the same player after. He’s failed at every club he’s been to on loan. We should have built a team around him and not surround him with an ever decreasing talent pool - aka shower of shit - from Barca to warming the bench at fucking Deepdale, And he would never have suffered such an injury if that stupid c@nt Hughes hadn't made him play a nothing game - you look after your top talent not risk them on a shit pitch against lower division cloggers It’s was just an unfortunate injury... they happen. Look at odemwingie at Man City. These things happen. |
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Post by kidcrewbob on Aug 18, 2018 19:33:50 GMT
We should have built a team around him and not surround him with an ever decreasing talent pool - aka shower of shit - from Barca to warming the bench at fucking Deepdale, And he would never have suffered such an injury if that stupid c@nt Hughes hadn't made him play a nothing game - you look after your top talent not risk them on a shit pitch against lower division cloggers It’s was just an unfortunate injury... they happen. Look at odemwingie at Man City. These things happen. Agreed but that was a game where it was an acceptable example of misfortune where him starting the game was a no brainier and necessary with him being on fire at the time ....Bojan just didn't need to be risked at Rochdale...... Anyhow - all history now - we coulda woulda shoulda ! |
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Post by joinerssquire on Aug 18, 2018 19:45:48 GMT
The lad Pearson from PNE is who we should have attempted to build a team around. Head and shoulders the best player on show tonight.
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Post by andypleedsstokie on Aug 18, 2018 20:02:20 GMT
Play Bojan. Just play fucking Bojan. I don't care if he has a game or two where he barely touches the ball, he's like a squizillion times better than any other player we have, apart from maybe Ince who he's only a zillion times better than. Just fucking play him, every game. He will score some goals and create some chances that one or other of the other fucking donkeys might bundle in. Unless we pull two absolutely fucking zinging loan signings out of the bag in the next however many days it is, he's our man. Just fucking play Bojan. sorry there's probably another thread isn't there but fuck it this is urgent Correct old chum. |
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Post by rosco on Aug 18, 2018 20:35:54 GMT
Bojan and Crouch need to play. We'll win games with those two on the pitch.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Aug 18, 2018 20:48:10 GMT
Thought Berahino did well today, very unlucky with his header that forced a good save. Another day that would have gone in.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 18, 2018 20:49:51 GMT
Play Bojan. Just play fucking Bojan. I don't care if he has a game or two where he barely touches the ball, he's like a squizillion times better than any other player we have, apart from maybe Ince who he's only a zillion times better than. Just fucking play him, every game. He will score some goals and create some chances that one or other of the other fucking donkeys might bundle in. Unless we pull two absolutely fucking zinging loan signings out of the bag in the next however many days it is, he's our man. Just fucking play Bojan. sorry there's probably another thread isn't there but fuck it this is urgent Correct old chum. You should post more andyp. Much missed. Berahino had a shockingly decent run out I thought, but dropping Bojan was both depressing and predictable. |
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Post by scfcwebby on Aug 18, 2018 20:52:14 GMT
Our best player first 2 games of the season (admittedly not many to choose from) and then dropped and not used in the 3rd while Fletcher bumbles around for another 90 minutes.
What are we becoming...
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Post by rawli on Aug 18, 2018 20:54:09 GMT
Wonder if Bojan is off. Perhaps we need him off the pay roll to bring someone else in.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Aug 19, 2018 0:47:35 GMT
It's obvious our new manager doesn't 'do' flair, so give this one up as a bad job. He'll do a hatchet job on him, play him in fits and starts and hope he steps out of line. Then he'll be gone. Reminds of an ex manager of ours. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 0:51:14 GMT
Bojan must wonder what the fuck happened to his life these past 3 years - we've ruined him How exactly have stoke ruined him? He suffered a terrible injury and was never the same player after. He’s failed at every club he’s been to on loan. It would be wrong to say that he failed at the clubs he was on loan to. He never played enough for them for him to fail... |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 0:52:52 GMT
Bojan and Crouch need to play. We'll win games with those two on the pitch. But probably not at the same time. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 0:54:13 GMT
100% agree.
He has that ingrained quality that means he needs to play. The only time he should be subbed is if we are 2 or 3 nil up and he's done his job.
I stick Berahino in front of him too. Afobe has looked poor in his 3 games.
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Post by andypleedsstokie on Aug 19, 2018 10:05:31 GMT
You should post more andyp. Much missed. Berahino had a shockingly decent run out I thought, but dropping Bojan was both depressing and predictable. Toxic Avenger - Thanks for those very kind words. I was genuinely touched. I have kept my eye on the Oatcake Messageboard over the last few years but have been reluctant to post. There's a few reasons for this. I always thought that in order to have a valid opinion, or be able to analyse a situation properly, I needed first-hand experience of what had occurred. In other words to have been at a game. Due to personal circumstances I went about 5 years without actually attending a game, although I did attempt to watch as many as possible on live streams. I did attend a couple of games at the tail end of last season. I don't think the TV always gives a true picture of what has gone on because it focuses on a small area of the pitch, and being at a game you can see what players are doing off the ball / their positional sense (or lack of) etc. So I didn't feel I had the authority to comment. Secondly I became put off by the way this messageboard has changed over the years, frankly sometimes descending into little more than a stream of insults. I've always attempted to be balanced and put forward views that take into consideration empirical evidence / facts. I accept that not everyone will agree with one another, we all have opinions and that is perfectly fine. But I just found it depressing / discouraging to think I might post a lengthy analytical piece which while criticising Mark Hughes would also reflect on the positive aspects of his management tenure at Stoke (e.g. 3 finishes in 9th spot, highest number of points), only to risk someone basically respond with a one liner akin to "Hughes is a c*nt, you're a c*nt". So it didn't seem worth the effort, nor would it be helpful for my state of mind. I can take reasoned arguments against a position, I can't accept the slinging of personal insults. The messageboard also hasn't been the same for me since we tragically lost Winger. This season I went to the Leeds Utd game, I went to the Brentford home game, and yesterday I watched the Preston NE game via a webstream. I intend to be at the Hull game, all being well. So I feel a little bit more qualified to post on the messageboard at the moment. Because I live in walking distance of Elland Road, and it was just £15 to get in, I went with my adult step-son to watch Leeds v Bolton in the League Cup game last week. So I've seen Bojan first-hand, and I've seen how Samu Saiz ran the show for Leeds until he was subbed at which point Leeds looked more ordinary. The movement, link-up play, vision, clever passing, and creativity Saiz gives Leeds is exactly what I could foresee Bojan giving us. I thought the only area that Bojan was lacking was a willingness to shoot in good positions rather than looking for a too clever a ball to bring in a team-mate. Saiz is willing to have a go, and indeed scored against Bolton. If the coaches can work on that element of the game with Bojan I think we saw something already to suggest he could work well with Afobe. I was surprised and disappointed that Berahino replaced Bojan yesterday, but in fairness I thought he played pretty decently, and I haven't written him off completely. He could do well at this level if he keeps his mind / attitude right. I think it's a confidence thing. What is depressing is that Rowett is making comments that suggest starting with Crouch in the next game. For me Crouch can come on as an impact player if we need to change something and give a different option, but for him to be starting really tells a story about the squad we have and the poor, confidence-lacking, start to the season. I think we should be using a talent like Bojan and giving him a run in the team, and if he's knackered on 60-70 minutes then look to bring on Berahino or Crouch depending on what sort of attacking option we need. |
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Post by jebbstuart on Aug 19, 2018 11:15:24 GMT
think Bojan is the answer to the worlds problems!
never been the same player since Rochdale, he has lost that speed and that 2 seconds which made all the difference. we cant afford to carry a player we are not good enough Bojan drifted out of the game against Brentford yes some good touches but not enough. we need to rebuilt and get a new midfield general. he was good for a spell but you cant life off that since injury how many good games has he had??the championship is about work and effort not too many star midfield players just a lot of good honest battlers
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Post by kristoff on Aug 19, 2018 11:23:17 GMT
think Bojan is the answer to the worlds problems! never been the same player since Rochdale, he has lost that speed and that 2 seconds which made all the difference. we cant afford to carry a player we are not good enough Bojan drifted out of the game against Brentford yes some good touches but not enough. we need to rebuilt and get a new midfield general. he was good for a spell but you cant life off that since injury how many good games has he had??the championship is about work and effort not too many star midfield players just a lot of good honest battlers Have you watched much championship football the last few years? Yes you need to battle, but the best teams always seem to have that 1 midfielder who can change a game ( usually alongside someone who protects them) |
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Post by sportsman on Aug 19, 2018 11:27:57 GMT
He's one that's just being used as a sacrificial pawn in a chess game. Manager probably doesn't see him as being dogged enough for the championship, hoping someone abroad comes in for him from abroad to free up his wages.
Me, I'd play him week in week out.
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Post by samwidge on Aug 19, 2018 11:30:43 GMT
You should post more andyp. Much missed. Berahino had a shockingly decent run out I thought, but dropping Bojan was both depressing and predictable. Toxic Avenger - Thanks for those very kind words. I was genuinely touched. I have kept my eye on the Oatcake Messageboard over the last few years but have been reluctant to post. There's a few reasons for this. I always thought that in order to have a valid opinion, or be able to analyse a situation properly, I needed first-hand experience of what had occurred. In other words to have been at a game. Due to personal circumstances I went about 5 years without actually attending a game, although I did attempt to watch as many as possible on live streams. I did attend a couple of games at the tail end of last season. I don't think the TV always gives a true picture of what has gone on because it focuses on a small area of the pitch, and being at a game you can see what players are doing off the ball / their positional sense (or lack of) etc. So I didn't feel I had the authority to comment. Secondly I became put off by the way this messageboard has changed over the years, frankly sometimes descending into little more than a stream of insults. I've always attempted to be balanced and put forward views that take into consideration empirical evidence / facts. I accept that not everyone will agree with one another, we all have opinions and that is perfectly fine. But I just found it depressing / discouraging to think I might post a lengthy analytical piece which while criticising Mark Hughes would also reflect on the positive aspects of his management tenure at Stoke (e.g. 3 finishes in 9th spot, highest number of points), only to risk someone basically respond with a one liner akin to "Hughes is a c*nt, you're a c*nt". So it didn't seem worth the effort, nor would it be helpful for my state of mind. I can take reasoned arguments against a position, I can't accept the slinging of personal insults. The messageboard also hasn't been the same for me since we tragically lost Winger. This season I went to the Leeds Utd game, I went to the Brentford home game, and yesterday I watched the Preston NE game via a webstream. I intend to be at the Hull game, all being well. So I feel a little bit more qualified to post on the messageboard at the moment. Because I live in walking distance of Elland Road, and it was just £15 to get in, I went with my adult step-son to watch Leeds v Bolton in the League Cup game last week. So I've seen Bojan first-hand, and I've seen how Samu Saiz ran the show for Leeds until he was subbed at which point Leeds looked more ordinary. The movement, link-up play, vision, clever passing, and creativity Saiz gives Leeds is exactly what I could foresee Bojan giving us. I thought the only area that Bojan was lacking was a willingness to shoot in good positions rather than looking for a too clever a ball to bring in a team-mate. Saiz is willing to have a go, and indeed scored against Bolton. If the coaches can work on that element of the game with Bojan I think we saw something already to suggest he could work well with Afobe. I was surprised and disappointed that Berahino replaced Bojan yesterday, but in fairness I thought he played pretty decently, and I haven't written him off completely. He could do well at this level if he keeps his mind / attitude right. I think it's a confidence thing. What is depressing is that Rowett is making comments that suggest starting with Crouch in the next game. For me Crouch can come on as an impact player if we need to change something and give a different option, but for him to be starting really tells a story about the squad we have and the poor, confidence-lacking, start to the season. I think we should be using a talent like Bojan and giving him a run in the team, and if he's knackered on 60-70 minutes then look to bring on Berahino or Crouch depending on what sort of attacking option we need. Excellent post mate. |
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Post by juiceandbits on Aug 19, 2018 11:45:36 GMT
Yeah the comments re Crouch are worrying. It won't work.
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Post by PotterLog on Aug 19, 2018 16:26:11 GMT
You should post more andyp. Much missed. Berahino had a shockingly decent run out I thought, but dropping Bojan was both depressing and predictable. Toxic Avenger - Thanks for those very kind words. I was genuinely touched. I have kept my eye on the Oatcake Messageboard over the last few years but have been reluctant to post. There's a few reasons for this. I always thought that in order to have a valid opinion, or be able to analyse a situation properly, I needed first-hand experience of what had occurred. In other words to have been at a game. Due to personal circumstances I went about 5 years without actually attending a game, although I did attempt to watch as many as possible on live streams. I did attend a couple of games at the tail end of last season. I don't think the TV always gives a true picture of what has gone on because it focuses on a small area of the pitch, and being at a game you can see what players are doing off the ball / their positional sense (or lack of) etc. So I didn't feel I had the authority to comment. Secondly I became put off by the way this messageboard has changed over the years, frankly sometimes descending into little more than a stream of insults. I've always attempted to be balanced and put forward views that take into consideration empirical evidence / facts. I accept that not everyone will agree with one another, we all have opinions and that is perfectly fine. But I just found it depressing / discouraging to think I might post a lengthy analytical piece which while criticising Mark Hughes would also reflect on the positive aspects of his management tenure at Stoke (e.g. 3 finishes in 9th spot, highest number of points), only to risk someone basically respond with a one liner akin to "Hughes is a c*nt, you're a c*nt". So it didn't seem worth the effort, nor would it be helpful for my state of mind. I can take reasoned arguments against a position, I can't accept the slinging of personal insults. The messageboard also hasn't been the same for me since we tragically lost Winger. This season I went to the Leeds Utd game, I went to the Brentford home game, and yesterday I watched the Preston NE game via a webstream. I intend to be at the Hull game, all being well. So I feel a little bit more qualified to post on the messageboard at the moment. Because I live in walking distance of Elland Road, and it was just £15 to get in, I went with my adult step-son to watch Leeds v Bolton in the League Cup game last week. So I've seen Bojan first-hand, and I've seen how Samu Saiz ran the show for Leeds until he was subbed at which point Leeds looked more ordinary. The movement, link-up play, vision, clever passing, and creativity Saiz gives Leeds is exactly what I could foresee Bojan giving us. I thought the only area that Bojan was lacking was a willingness to shoot in good positions rather than looking for a too clever a ball to bring in a team-mate. Saiz is willing to have a go, and indeed scored against Bolton. If the coaches can work on that element of the game with Bojan I think we saw something already to suggest he could work well with Afobe. I was surprised and disappointed that Berahino replaced Bojan yesterday, but in fairness I thought he played pretty decently, and I haven't written him off completely. He could do well at this level if he keeps his mind / attitude right. I think it's a confidence thing. What is depressing is that Rowett is making comments that suggest starting with Crouch in the next game. For me Crouch can come on as an impact player if we need to change something and give a different option, but for him to be starting really tells a story about the squad we have and the poor, confidence-lacking, start to the season. I think we should be using a talent like Bojan and giving him a run in the team, and if he's knackered on 60-70 minutes then look to bring on Berahino or Crouch depending on what sort of attacking option we need. I second rvd, good to see you back Mr. P. Anyone who slings personal insults is not worth wasting any time worrying about, they can be ignored or blocked mate. There’s still plenty reasoned debate to be found in these pages. Absolutely agree about not getting the full picture of the game when watching on telly, I generally try not to get too opinionated about the team and individual players for that very reason. I’m making an exception here though  |
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Post by andypleedsstokie on Aug 19, 2018 20:48:13 GMT
Thanks Samwidge and Log.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 20:51:55 GMT
The one solution is to get the full stadium chanting throughout the match, Rowett OUT.' simple.
Most fans on here want him home after our poor start and there as been no improvement. Hoofball harold
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Post by johnbutlershair on Aug 19, 2018 21:00:45 GMT
The one solution is to get the full stadium chanting throughout the match, Rowett OUT.' simple. Most fans on here want him home after our poor start and there as been no improvement. Hoofball harold Do most fans want him out? After 3 games. I think most fans are acknowledging the massive rebuilding job he has on his hands |
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Post by Gods on Aug 19, 2018 21:09:47 GMT
Yeah the comments re Crouch are worrying. It won't work. If I was to summarise that Rowett interview it would be 'We're going direct until we have some points on the board and confidence returns'. I'm not sure if direct it will work or not. If you're going to try anything else you'd better be good at it and I'm not sure we are right now. |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 19, 2018 21:26:30 GMT
Yeah the comments re Crouch are worrying. It won't work. If I was to summarise that Rowett interview it would be 'We're going direct until we have some points on the board and confidence returns'. I'm not sure if direct it will work or not. If you're going to try anything else you'd better be good at it and I'm not sure we are right now. If we wanted to go direct we should have kept Pulis forever. The more I think about it, the more he suited the clubs level of ambition. |
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