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Post by WorkingclassHero on Aug 5, 2018 9:52:06 GMT
One of my biggest disappointments is that we didn't attempt to poach the best players from our likely opposition. ie take Brentfords best couple of players, take Bristol cities best players and effectively try and Man City the champ. Strengthening by weakening your opposition.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Aug 5, 2018 9:57:51 GMT
Who would you recommend because I've not got a bloody clue?
Best Wishes M. Cartwright
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Post by sunshine on Aug 5, 2018 9:58:48 GMT
Because they are under no obligation to sell them to us?
How do you know we haven't?
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Post by SCFC92 on Aug 5, 2018 9:59:09 GMT
Because we poached some even better players from the league above? Afobe, Ince...
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Post by rockthecity on Aug 5, 2018 9:59:36 GMT
Because they are under no obligation to sell them to us? How do you know we haven't? Because scholes and Cartwright have not got a Scooby Doo! |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Aug 5, 2018 10:01:35 GMT
Because we can't shift millions of pounds off the payroll we are paying players who no one else wants.  |
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Post by Gods on Aug 5, 2018 10:01:39 GMT
I think mostly because our media rights money is going down from £100m to £6m in phases over the next 3 years and even if it weren't you are severely over estimating our riches compared to others in the division, and we don't exactly know who the best Championship players are anyway it's not a definitive list and they would not all wish to come to Stoke anyhow even if their clubs were willing to sell which is highly doubtful. (Oh and Daft's point above).
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 5, 2018 10:02:36 GMT
Yeh its just that easy, oi you we want your best players, we don't care if you want to sell them or not they're ours now  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 10:07:49 GMT
In Afobe and Ince we have two top Championship players and in Etebo, we potentially have a premier league player.
We have thus far kept Allen, Shawcross, Pieters, Bauer, Butland and Indi. They are Premier League players and good ones.
The issues are behind that. We haven't got enough depth and we haven't shifted enough of the crap out of the door, which tells us another story entirely!
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Post by hanibal7 on Aug 5, 2018 10:13:40 GMT
One of my biggest disappointments is that we didn't attempt to poach the best players from our likely opposition. ie take Brentfords best couple of players, take Bristol cities best players and effectively try and Man City the champ. Strengthening by weakening your opposition. ohhhhhh dear dear, the lunatics are out again. |
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Post by Stoke711 on Aug 5, 2018 10:45:24 GMT
Lets over pay as teams don't want to sell their best players, so they can then strengthen 2 or 3 positions making them even stronger.
Then finding out because we just bought our rivals best players, we now have a team full of players that don't like to play how our manager wants to and find half of them aren't that good, it's the team they played in that made them look that good.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 5, 2018 10:49:01 GMT
There's nothing funnier than some Billy Big Bollocks coming a cropper. Hope you're prepared for the inevitable piss take mate - just try not to choke on last season's prawn sandwich.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 5, 2018 11:07:12 GMT
There's nothing funnier than some Billy Big Bollocks coming a cropper. Hope you're prepared for the inevitable piss take mate - just try not to choke on last season's prawn sandwich. Last season was full of shit sandwiches delivered by the same transfer team we have this season  |
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Post by lstokie on Aug 5, 2018 11:24:48 GMT
I'd say we have a few premiership quality players let alone championship.
Butland, BMI, Bauer, Etebo perhaps, Afobe, Ince, Allen.
We also have some top championship players too in Shawcross, McClean, Bojan, Williams, Pieters, Affelay, Berahino..
And despite what we think of them, a number of teams would love Fletcher in the championship, both Imbula & Ndiaye if we ever get to see them play on are fantastic players and Cameron is strong depth.
I think we're favourites for a reason.
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Post by superheroantonius on Aug 5, 2018 12:55:10 GMT
I get the idea of the original post
Players like Ben Pearson , James Morrison and oli Watkins , will be very effective again I am sure .
Mind you , would probably cost a fortune to sign them
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Post by tony1234 on Aug 5, 2018 13:33:46 GMT
There's probably a position in the middle that might have been more helpful....
As pointed out, we were hamstrung, and very much doubt clubs would sell their best players to us when having promotion ambitions themselves. It would have cost OTT amounts to get Vydra, Gibson, Traore et al - We can't criticise our transfer team for both a lack of frugality and then demand they pay top rates for second rate players. Plus we need to cover so many bases that our budget would quickly run out after 3 x 12m-15m players.
The middle ground = would have liked to see us more active and competitive for the best loan talent that demonstrated itself last year - Harry Wilson, Snodgrass, Woodburn etc
And where we needed cover, rather than spend a fortune on the wages of an aging Ashley Williams, look at the c2m-4m players like Webster/ Egan of this world who had a good season last time and may develop further.... Jofezoon etc for wing cover. If these players do, great, we can decide later if they are first choices or assets to be sold. If they don't, we probably still have some asset value and a decent Champs player when the parachute money dries up.
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Post by sneakystokejohnson on Aug 5, 2018 13:38:14 GMT
Some players actually want to stay at their own clubs? Some clubs want to keep their best players? Who would have thought...
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Post by chigstoke on Aug 5, 2018 13:43:39 GMT
One of my biggest disappointments is that we didn't attempt to poach the best players from our likely opposition. ie take Brentfords best couple of players, take Bristol cities best players and effectively try and Man City the champ. Strengthening by weakening your opposition. You've had an absolute fucking mare with threads the past couple of days The Just being in the champ is shit thread was bad enough. I'm not quite sure football transfers, weakening opposition and winning leagues is as simple as just going up to rival clubs and saying 'Give us these lot yeah?'. |
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Post by fazza90 on Aug 5, 2018 13:59:55 GMT
Because we can't shift millions of pounds off the payroll we are paying players who no one else wants. ^This^ |
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Post by duckling on Aug 5, 2018 13:59:56 GMT
Because we already have the best Championship players  |
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Post by greyman on Aug 5, 2018 15:30:29 GMT
One of my biggest disappointments is that we didn't attempt to poach the best players from our likely opposition. ie take Brentfords best couple of players, take Bristol cities best players and effectively try and Man City the champ. Strengthening by weakening your opposition. Because it's not Football Manager 2019 |
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