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Post by awrypotter on Jul 16, 2018 10:47:03 GMT
They're all out in force now aren't they? pissy pants Monday is well underway. Of course it is easy to use clichés. I was actually very positive last season but the fact is that the 'pissy pants' were proved right to be so concerned. Even Jack Butland described our transfer policy as 'farcical'
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 16, 2018 10:48:51 GMT
Your comments on Afobe are embarrassing, check your facts before posting such nonsense. I do check my facts when I post. I hope Afobe will be a huge success, but you should remind yourself of the facts which I posted earlier and expand on below: The facts are: Fact 1. He scored 13 goals in 21 matches in 2014-15; that's 3 years ago and seems to be the basis of a "goal every 2 games" reputation. Fact 2. Before then he achieved very little. Fact 3. Since then, he has scored 14 goals in 2015-16, 6 goals in 2016-17, and 6 goals in 2017-18. Fact 4. In between 2015 and 2018, he has scored 10 goals in 63 matches in the Prem., spread over 3 seasons, not as good a Jon Walters strike rate in the Prem. I didn't post nonsense. My comments may be embarrassing to you, or possibly Afobe, but not me. Please read: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benik_AfobeAgain, 28 goals in 62 Championship appearances since joining Wolves in 2015. That is an excellent return. 13 goals in half a season is very good. 9 goals in half a season is decent at the very least. 6 in 16 is a decent return as well. Who would you like to see us go for with a massively better record than that Cokey?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2018 10:49:22 GMT
They're all out in force now aren't they? pissy pants Monday is well underway. I remember certain people being labelled as pissy pants last January, when they said we needed a striker. They were told to sit down, shut up, trust the club and that we'd be alright. That worked out well didn't it? Thankfully though, the transfer team involved then have been root and branched completely...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2018 10:49:36 GMT
Your comments on Afobe are embarrassing, check your facts before posting such nonsense. I do check my facts when I post. I hope Afobe will be a huge success, but you should remind yourself of the facts which I posted earlier and expand on below: The facts are: Fact 1. He scored 13 goals in 21 matches in 2014-15; that's 3 years ago and seems to be the basis of a "goal every 2 games" reputation. Fact 2. Before then he achieved very little. Fact 3. Since then, he has scored 14 goals in 2015-16, 6 goals in 2016-17, and 6 goals in 2017-18. Fact 4. In between 2015 and 2018, he has scored 10 goals in 63 matches in the Prem., spread over 3 seasons, not as good a Jon Walters strike rate in the Prem. I didn't post nonsense. My comments may be embarrassing to you, or possibly Afobe, but not me. Please read: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benik_AfobeI’m well aware of his record, as posted above he has 28 goals in 62 games in the championship, very nearly 1 in 2 which is very good.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 16, 2018 10:51:47 GMT
They're all out in force now aren't they? pissy pants Monday is well underway. I remember certain people being labelled as pissy pants last January, when they said we needed a striker. They were told to sit down, shut up, trust the club and that we'd be alright. That worked out well didn't it? Thankfully though, the transfer team involved then have been root and branched completely... Got me slippers on and relaxing, nothings going to ruin my day off work
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Jul 16, 2018 10:59:42 GMT
I see some are already sticking the boot in and getting the knives out about transfers - although we know ABSOLUTELY nothing about the negotiations ongoing.
Things will pick up now the World Cup is over IMO, let's not start the knicker-wetting this early.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2018 11:08:22 GMT
I remember certain people being labelled as pissy pants last January, when they said we needed a striker. They were told to sit down, shut up, trust the club and that we'd be alright. That worked out well didn't it? Thankfully though, the transfer team involved then have been root and branched completely... Got me slippers on and relaxing, nothings going to ruin my day off work Same here. This is great fun.
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 16, 2018 11:24:18 GMT
I do check my facts when I post. I hope Afobe will be a huge success, but you should remind yourself of the facts which I posted earlier and expand on below: The facts are: Fact 1. He scored 13 goals in 21 matches in 2014-15; that's 3 years ago and seems to be the basis of a "goal every 2 games" reputation. Fact 2. Before then he achieved very little. Fact 3. Since then, he has scored 14 goals in 2015-16, 6 goals in 2016-17, and 6 goals in 2017-18. Fact 4. In between 2015 and 2018, he has scored 10 goals in 63 matches in the Prem., spread over 3 seasons, not as good a Jon Walters strike rate in the Prem. I didn't post nonsense. My comments may be embarrassing to you, or possibly Afobe, but not me. Please read: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benik_AfobeI’m well aware of his record, as posted above he has 28 goals in 62 games in the championship, very nearly 1 in 2 which is very good. I agree. So let us both hope he reproduces the form he showed in 2015-16 for us. But I think you are "cherry picking" your statistics and building up expectation. When I said he was a 6 goal a season man in my original post, I was "cherry picking" the last 2 seasons, and trying to convey a bit of realism about what this thread is about, the performance of the "Pizza boys". Why have Wolves been so quick to off-load him do you think? Clearly they don't think he can cut it in the Prem. and they saw an opportunity to make a quick profit. I'm not saying he will be no good, I hope he will be a huge success. But last season we scored 35 goals in 38 matches and have sold our best striker (again), the only genuine winger, and so far have loaned (to buy) one striker who scored well 3 years ago, and we don't have any wingers and had to use him wide in pre-season. The clock is ticking, and I repeat my opening comment, which may be "knicker-wetting" on other people's timescale, I am getting very concerned.
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Post by shimmer on Jul 16, 2018 11:47:11 GMT
I wouldn't want there job to be fair, you would need thick skin!!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 16, 2018 11:52:47 GMT
I’m well aware of his record, as posted above he has 28 goals in 62 games in the championship, very nearly 1 in 2 which is very good. I agree. So let us both hope he reproduces the form he showed in 2015-16 for us. But I think you are "cherry picking" your statistics and building up expectation. When I said he was a 6 goal a season man in my original post, I was "cherry picking" the last 2 seasons, and trying to convey a bit of realism about what this thread is about, the performance of the "Pizza boys". Why have Wolves been so quick to off-load him do you think? Clearly they don't think he can cut it in the Prem. and they saw an opportunity to make a quick profit. I'm not saying he will be no good, I hope he will be a huge success. But last season we scored 35 goals in 38 matches and have sold our best striker (again), the only genuine winger, and so far have loaned (to buy) one striker who scored well 3 years ago, and we don't have any wingers and had to use him wide in pre-season. The clock is ticking, and I repeat my opening comment, which may be "knicker-wetting" on other people's timescale, I am getting very concerned. Cherry picking the two seasons he was in the Premier League? How is that relevant? Again, he didn’t just ‘score well three years ago’. Every time he’s played in the division we’re currently in during that time frame he’s been a regular goal scorer.
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Post by mrred on Jul 16, 2018 12:28:52 GMT
I wouldn't want there job to be fair, you would need thick skin!! Carto's got that covered. Or is it big boned?
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Post by smatty88 on Jul 16, 2018 16:29:09 GMT
Ultimately we don't know who is responsible for the recommendation and signing of each player but ultimately the manager seems to have the final say. The buck was firmly passed to Hughes on Wimmer and Rowett said in an interview that "the club" had been working on Etebo prior to him arriving.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 16, 2018 16:53:12 GMT
Ultimately we don't know who is responsible for the recommendation and signing of each player but ultimately the manager seems to have the final say. The buck was firmly passed to Hughes on Wimmer and Rowett said in an interview that "the club" had been working on Etebo prior to him arriving. This is how it works... player signs and is shite = manager signing, player signs and he's a good 'un, club signing. Straight from the Tony 'the weasel' Scholes CEO handbook.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 16, 2018 17:20:24 GMT
It’s probably cooler not to worry. Give me more confidence and I won’t. The facts are there. We’ve just been relegated after an awful August window where we made some truly dreadful signings. After a promising start with 2 excellent buys and some new contracts we appear to completely ground to a halt with nothing on the horizon and our apparent main targets clubs rejecting our bids. Things need to happen soon or we’ll be left on the starting blocks with players playing who don’t know each other and glaringly obvious lack of cover. Once we’ve signed 4-5 I’ll stop worrying. If we want to go up we have a hell of a lot of work still to do.
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Post by march4 on Jul 16, 2018 17:29:23 GMT
Did Scholes and Cartwright have their wages reduced after relegation?
Surely they were more to blame than the players who have had pay cuts.
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Post by block22stokie on Jul 16, 2018 17:33:04 GMT
Are we just forgetting we’ve got Allen and Bauer on long term contracts when we all expected them to leave ....that was superb business and two players crucial to us Those along with Etobo Federici and Afobe says it’s quite a good start to our summer but still plenty to do I think the issue is that Allen and Bauer aren’t new signings are they? All good getting them to stay, but the quotes from Rowett suggests he wants more players and that isn’t happening for him. Don’t forget the window shuts early aswell so after Germany there’s only 2 weeks till Leeds. I’m not concerned but some are.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Jul 16, 2018 17:34:45 GMT
Did Scholes and Cartwright have their wages reduced after relegation? Surely they were more to blame than the players who have had pay cuts. Naughty, but nice
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Post by stokemark on Jul 16, 2018 20:37:08 GMT
Are we just forgetting we’ve got Allen and Bauer on long term contracts when we all expected them to leave ....that was superb business and two players crucial to us Those along with Etobo Federici and Afobe says it’s quite a good start to our summer but still plenty to do I think the issue is that Allen and Bauer aren’t new signings are they? All good getting them to stay, but the quotes from Rowett suggests he wants more players and that isn’t happening for him. Don’t forget the window shuts early aswell so after Germany there’s only 2 weeks till Leeds. I’m not concerned but some are. Players will clearly need to be shifted for,more to come in - trouble is no one wants our dead wood
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 16, 2018 20:40:37 GMT
I think the issue is that Allen and Bauer aren’t new signings are they? All good getting them to stay, but the quotes from Rowett suggests he wants more players and that isn’t happening for him. Don’t forget the window shuts early aswell so after Germany there’s only 2 weeks till Leeds. I’m not concerned but some are. Players will clearly need to be shifted for,more to come in - trouble is no one wants our dead wood Who the feck can we blame for the stupid contract extensions? Cameron's being the worst.
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Jul 16, 2018 20:46:50 GMT
Typical manager just putting the pressure on the board - they all do it.
He will no doubt know the reasons why the deals have yet to be completed, he's just deflecting that away from himself - he has enough on his plate.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 16, 2018 20:47:44 GMT
Typical manager just putting the pressure on the board - they all do it. Even when they're fresh in?
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Jul 16, 2018 20:49:21 GMT
Typical manager just putting the pressure on the board - they all do it. Even when they're fresh in? I think so yeah, I can't think of any examples to hand but all the managers deflect this kind of stuff across to the board. Obviously, this isn't the first time we've seen it done with our board, but lessons have been learnt now - haven't they ?
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 16, 2018 20:50:22 GMT
Double relegation, liquidation around the corner, what a nightmare.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 16, 2018 20:50:39 GMT
Even when they're fresh in? I think so yeah, I can't think of any examples to hand but all the managers deflect this kind of stuff across to the board. Obviously, this isn't the first time we've seen it done with our board, but lessons have been learnt now - haven't they ? Haha of course they have...... I wouldn't trust any of them as far as I could throw them!
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Post by crapslinger on Jul 16, 2018 20:54:18 GMT
Are we just forgetting we’ve got Allen and Bauer on long term contracts when we all expected them to leave ....that was superb business and two players crucial to us Those along with Etobo Federici and Afobe says it’s quite a good start to our summer but still plenty to do I think the issue is that Allen and Bauer aren’t new signings are they? All good getting them to stay, but the quotes from Rowett suggests he wants more players and that isn’t happening for him. Don’t forget the window shuts early aswell so after Germany there’s only 2 weeks till Leeds. I’m not concerned but some are. They are concerned with good reason after the last two years of transfer dealings, all the talk from the Chairman is looking once again like hot air plus we have lot's of very expensive miss fit's and wankers on our books hanging like albatross's around our necks.
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Post by crapslinger on Jul 16, 2018 20:56:22 GMT
I think so yeah, I can't think of any examples to hand but all the managers deflect this kind of stuff across to the board. Obviously, this isn't the first time we've seen it done with our board, but lessons have been learnt now - haven't they ? Haha of course they have...... I wouldn't trust any of them as far as I could throw them! Try chucking that fat twat Carto and you will fuck your back up, in the process Peter believes
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Post by baystokie on Jul 16, 2018 20:57:06 GMT
Double relegation, liquidation around the corner, what a nightmare. Just what you'd expect from the 'snowflake' generation but not from those of more mature years
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jul 16, 2018 21:03:39 GMT
Double relegation, liquidation around the corner, what a nightmare. Any news on jack rodwell general?
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 16, 2018 21:13:32 GMT
Double relegation, liquidation around the corner, what a nightmare. Any news on jack rodwell general? Looking a very good option right now, if he reduces his ridiculous wage demands that is.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 16, 2018 21:17:59 GMT
Any news on jack rodwell general? Looking a very good option right now, if he reduces his ridiculous wage demands that is. Training with Watford so we look like missing out again. Good skills Tone.
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