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Post by Pugsley on Jun 21, 2018 22:05:29 GMT
Jeeeeez we're giving it the big one about signing players for a couple of million quid. Stoke fans in their element.
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Post by andystokey on Jun 21, 2018 22:08:18 GMT
Can we wait until 5th August to answer that? Swansea, WBA, Leeds, Middlesbrough, Forest and Derby i think will spend a few quid and use the loan market to attract PL youngsters. If we spend the Shaq and NDaiye money wisely we will be as good as anyone. Positive but still a way to go though. Most of those teams you mentioned Andy barely have a pot to piss in. Stoke will have by far the best squad in the league. The goals and the quality will all be there as long as rowett has a plan I would've said that at the beginning of last season too about Huddersfield, Newcastle and Brighton. We need to get used to the idea that we will have to fight Tuesday night to Saturday when everyone will fancy a pop at us. We need to get those 4 or 5 extra signings over the line and be right on it from day 1. As long as we dump our 10 home win mentality and replace it with a merciless 26 wins
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Jun 21, 2018 22:11:00 GMT
Jeeeeez we're giving it the big one about signing players for a couple of million quid. Stoke fans in their element. What exactly, would make you happy? Considering you're not a typical stoke fan that is.
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 21, 2018 22:21:59 GMT
Jeeeeez we're giving it the big one about signing players for a couple of million quid. Stoke fans in their element. What exactly, would make you happy? Considering you're not a typical stoke fan that is. At the moment not a lot. Maybe Scholes's head on a spike outside the main entrance of the B365.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Jun 21, 2018 22:23:08 GMT
What exactly, would make you happy? Considering you're not a typical stoke fan that is. At the moment not a lot. Maybe Scholes's head on a spike outside the main entrance of the B365. Not too much to ask for I suppose.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2018 22:45:05 GMT
Pulis the legend! Once he realised his club were after him he withdrew the Middlesbrough bid so as McNair would sign for us & help us get promoted. #BuildTheStatue. Or he thought "Hang on if the potters are after McNair, they must be buying him to replace Geoff. Now I know he can do a job for me I'll go after him instead.
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Post by ohbottom on Jun 21, 2018 22:55:46 GMT
Are we going to do this to every player TP tries to sign?
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Jun 22, 2018 7:24:30 GMT
BBC website reporting that he will sign for boro today. Is this bullshit or have missed out.
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Post by leoncort on Jun 22, 2018 7:27:12 GMT
Versatility is a key asset in the Championship. As is quality and he was very highly rated at UTD. A good signing.
Now go and get Gayle and a 3-4 others.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 7:33:05 GMT
BBC website reporting that he will sign for boro today. Is this bullshit or have missed out. That would be difficult, considering that they don’t have a bid in for him.
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Post by burystokie on Jun 22, 2018 7:39:38 GMT
BBC website reporting that he will sign for boro today. Is this bullshit or have missed out. Unless there's another article on their website that I'm missing, it doesn't say anything of the sort. It just says they've had a bid accepted, and that's hardly new information. It's also from four days ago.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 7:41:52 GMT
BBC website reporting that he will sign for boro today. Is this bullshit or have missed out. Link? Nothing on there from what I can see.
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Post by Gods on Jun 22, 2018 7:55:27 GMT
Jeeeeez we're giving it the big one about signing players for a couple of million quid. Stoke fans in their element. I do agree with that, I must admit I am not fully tuned in to current state of heightened expectations on here.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jun 22, 2018 8:03:54 GMT
Jeeeeez we're giving it the big one about signing players for a couple of million quid. Stoke fans in their element. I do agree with that, I must admit I am not fully tuned in to current state of heightened expectations on here. Breaking: Water is wet.
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Post by Gods on Jun 22, 2018 8:15:50 GMT
I do agree with that, I must admit I am not fully tuned in to current state of heightened expectations on here. Breaking: Water is wet. Well so far we have Afobe which is perfectly fine but he is a player neither Wolves nor Bournemouth thought do a job in the division above and some random Nigerian bloke who may or may not work out. We're linked with this McNair fella who isn't fit to lace the boots of prime time Adam/Fletch/Imbula or Affelay and suddenly all in the world is well. Once the 'out door' starts swinging and Jack, Badou and Shaq step through it I'm not convinced we're really in a position to kick some arse in this league yet
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jun 22, 2018 8:30:35 GMT
Well so far we have Afobe which is perfectly fine but he is a player neither Wolves nor Bournemouth thought do a job in the division above and some random Nigerian bloke who may or may not work out. We're linked with this McNair fella who isn't fit to lace the boots of prime time Adam/Fletch/Imbula or Affelay and suddenly all in the world is well. Once the 'out door' starts swinging and Jack, Badou and Shaq step through it I'm not convinced we're really in a position to kick some arse in this league yet My point was more that we could be currently European Champions and plotting our flights to Tokyo to confirm world domination and you'd still be fretting about something. This is what you do, I don't know why you feel the need to continually announce it to us as if it's an eerie feeling in your water rather than your default setting. That's also a desperate, going out of your way to be negative appraisal of the situation. Things could very much go either way this year and we'll be there to be shot at. But isn't it good that we've shown intent and are looking to spend what it takes to stay up? Isn't it good that we're signing good players who should help us compete, even if we need half a dozen more as things stand? Isn't it good that Allen is staying? Aren't those all positive things? Wolves and Bournemouth don't see Afobe as a Prem player. Why do we care? We're not a Prem team. If he scores 20 goals this season he'll have done his job. Some 'random' Nigerian bloke is a pretty ignorant way of describing a highly promising young international footballer who impressed in Portugal and in recent games for Nigeria. As for McNair, I don't believe you could pick him out of a line up if you wanted to, never mind tell us how good he is, and we haven't seen 'primetime' Adam/Fletch/Imbula/Afellay for two years or more, they've all been various shades of knackered or shite since about 2016.
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Post by smithh30 on Jun 22, 2018 8:31:07 GMT
Well so far we have Afobe which is perfectly fine but he is a player neither Wolves nor Bournemouth thought do a job in the division above and some random Nigerian bloke who may or may not work out. We're linked with this McNair fella who isn't fit to lace the boots of prime time Adam/Fletch/Imbula or Affelay and suddenly all in the world is well. Once the 'out door' starts swinging and Jack, Badou and Shaq step through it I'm not convinced we're really in a position to kick some arse in this league yet But they’re not prime time anymore are they? They’re old, slow, lazy or injured. They don’t put the effort in or they don’t want to play for the club. Stop looking backwards at what the players once were, look at what they are now and look forward to what McNair could be. At least we’re buying players in the right positions that need strengthening.
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Post by ProctorDre on Jun 22, 2018 8:55:41 GMT
Jeeeeez we're giving it the big one about signing players for a couple of million quid. Stoke fans in their element. Ah so much positivity, lighten the fuck up!
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Post by thongs on Jun 22, 2018 9:30:39 GMT
Well so far we have Afobe which is perfectly fine but he is a player neither Wolves nor Bournemouth thought do a job in the division above and some random Nigerian bloke who may or may not work out. We're linked with this McNair fella who isn't fit to lace the boots of prime time Adam/Fletch/Imbula or Affelay and suddenly all in the world is well. Once the 'out door' starts swinging and Jack, Badou and Shaq step through it I'm not convinced we're really in a position to kick some arse in this league yet forever the optimist. You must be the type of guy who holidays in Cornwall because your to scared fly abroad in fear of the planet crashing
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jun 22, 2018 9:31:51 GMT
Jeeeeez we're giving it the big one about signing players for a couple of million quid. Stoke fans in their element. Ah so much positivity, lighten the fuck up! Were Gods or Pugs as unimpressed when we signed Arnie for not much over £2 million quid? I would have thought with our recent track record of paying £50 million for Wimmer, Imbula and Berahino that most our fans would have learned not to judge a player's worth purely by what we pay for them. Some of our best players over the years have cost the square root of bugger all and some of the worst have cost more than most of us will earn in ten lifetimes. McNair seems well worth the investment of £5 million quid given his International experience at a comparatively young age and his versatility. If we sign him and he doesn't work out I'll be happier that we risked that sort of money than the sort of money we paid for Wimmer. Of course I hope for one or two potential super stars who will cost £10 million+ but if we tried to build a Championship squad with only those payers we would be risking the financial future of the club.
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Post by Gods on Jun 22, 2018 9:37:25 GMT
Well so far we have Afobe which is perfectly fine but he is a player neither Wolves nor Bournemouth thought do a job in the division above and some random Nigerian bloke who may or may not work out. We're linked with this McNair fella who isn't fit to lace the boots of prime time Adam/Fletch/Imbula or Affelay and suddenly all in the world is well. Once the 'out door' starts swinging and Jack, Badou and Shaq step through it I'm not convinced we're really in a position to kick some arse in this league yet My point was more that we could be currently European Champions and plotting our flights to Tokyo to confirm world domination and you'd still be fretting about something. This is what you do, I don't know why you feel the need to continually announce it to us as if it's an eerie feeling in your water rather than your default setting. That's also a desperate, going out of your way to be negative appraisal of the situation. Things could very much go either way this year and we'll be there to be shot at. But isn't it good that we've shown intent and are looking to spend what it takes to stay up? Isn't it good that we're signing good players who should help us compete, even if we need half a dozen more as things stand? Isn't it good that Allen is staying? Aren't those all positive things? Wolves and Bournemouth don't see Afobe as a Prem player. Why do we care? We're not a Prem team. If he scores 20 goals this season he'll have done his job. Some 'random' Nigerian bloke is a pretty ignorant way of describing a highly promising young international footballer who impressed in Portugal and in recent games for Nigeria. As for McNair, I don't believe you could pick him out of a line up if you wanted to, never mind tell us how good he is, and we haven't seen 'primetime' Adam/Fletch/Imbula/Afellay for two years or more, they've all been various shades of knackered or shite since about 2016. Fair play, that made me laugh! I am actually thrilled about the Joe Allen extension. As for Adam/Fletch/Imbula/Afellay I'm not suggesting they are the answer only pointing out the talent we will have won't match the talent we did have. That may sound obvious but there are plenty of posts on here saying we will have a better side in the Championship than we did in the Prem and I don't believe that will be the case. Anyway I think we are making the right moves but I haven't subscribed to a sense of euphoria and a belief that we will be kicking sand in anyone's face next season just yet!
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Post by leoncort on Jun 22, 2018 9:39:27 GMT
Am i right in saying he only played 30% of games in Sunderlands season?
And finished with 4 goals in 5?? He can teach our forward line a thing or two.
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Post by ProctorDre on Jun 22, 2018 9:41:36 GMT
Ah so much positivity, lighten the fuck up! Were Gods or Pugs as unimpressed when we signed Arnie for not much over £2 million quid? I would have thought with our recent track record of paying £50 million for Wimmer, Imbula and Berahino that most our fans would have learned not to judge a player's worth purely by what we pay for them. Some of our best players over the years have cost the square root of bugger all and some of the worst have cost more than most of us will earn in ten lifetimes. McNair seems well worth the investment of £5 million quid given his International experience at a comparatively young age and his versatility. If we sign him and he doesn't work out I'll be happier that we risked that sort of money than the sort of money we paid for Wimmer. Of course I hope for one or two potential super stars who will cost £10 million+ but if we tried to build a Championship squad with only those payers we would be risking the financial future of the club. Probably were yeah, some folk on here just go out of their way to be negative about everything.
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Post by Gods on Jun 22, 2018 9:43:22 GMT
Ah so much positivity, lighten the fuck up! Were Gods or Pugs as unimpressed when we signed Arnie for not much over £2 million quid? I would have thought with our recent track record of paying £50 million for Wimmer, Imbula and Berahino that most our fans would have learned not to judge a player's worth purely by what we pay for them. Some of our best players over the years have cost the square root of bugger all and some of the worst have cost more than most of us will earn in ten lifetimes. McNair seems well worth the investment of £5 million quid given his International experience at a comparatively young age and his versatility. If we sign him and he doesn't work out I'll be happier that we risked that sort of money than the sort of money we paid for Wimmer. Of course I hope for one or two potential super stars who will cost £10 million+ but if we tried to build a Championship squad with only those payers we would be risking the financial future of the club. I'm not complaining about McNair if we sign him, I think its the right kind of move, just not creaming my pants like some and giving in the large one as though our moves so far this summer somehow mean we are about to simply stroll to the title because I don't believe that will be anything like the case. As for the force of nature that is Arnie I'm probably his #1 fan !
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jun 22, 2018 9:54:16 GMT
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Post by ProctorDre on Jun 22, 2018 9:54:22 GMT
Were Gods or Pugs as unimpressed when we signed Arnie for not much over £2 million quid? I would have thought with our recent track record of paying £50 million for Wimmer, Imbula and Berahino that most our fans would have learned not to judge a player's worth purely by what we pay for them. Some of our best players over the years have cost the square root of bugger all and some of the worst have cost more than most of us will earn in ten lifetimes. McNair seems well worth the investment of £5 million quid given his International experience at a comparatively young age and his versatility. If we sign him and he doesn't work out I'll be happier that we risked that sort of money than the sort of money we paid for Wimmer. Of course I hope for one or two potential super stars who will cost £10 million+ but if we tried to build a Championship squad with only those payers we would be risking the financial future of the club. I'm not complaining about McNair if we sign him, I think its the right kind of move, just not creaming my pants like some and giving in the large one as though our moves so far this summer somehow mean we are about to simply stroll to the title because I don't believe that will be anything like the case. As for the force of nature that is Arnie I'm probably his #1 fan ! That just shows that there always has to be some negativity somewhere. You're happy enough with the potential signing but lets have a moan because some people are perhaps being a bit too optimistic. Which btw, I don't really see anyone "creaming their pants" about it. Mainly just people saying it would be a good signing, which it would. What's wrong with people being optimistic? I'd rather have a thread full of some optimism than a bunch of miserable bastards any day.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 10:04:11 GMT
He might not be a "sexy" signing but it's about the team so if Rowett sees something in him happy days.
For all Wolves flair last season they still had unfashionable players like Danny Batth, Matt Doherty, Ryan Bennett and Connor Coady at the heart of the team so it's about getting the balance right....
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Post by Gods on Jun 22, 2018 10:04:21 GMT
I'm not complaining about McNair if we sign him, I think its the right kind of move, just not creaming my pants like some and giving in the large one as though our moves so far this summer somehow mean we are about to simply stroll to the title because I don't believe that will be anything like the case. As for the force of nature that is Arnie I'm probably his #1 fan ! That just shows that there always has to be some negativity somewhere. You're happy enough with the potential signing but lets have a moan because some people are perhaps being a bit too optimistic. Which btw, I don't really see anyone "creaming their pants" about it. Mainly just people saying it would be a good signing, which it would. What's wrong with people being optimistic? I'd rather have a thread full of some optimism than a bunch of miserable bastards any day. The reason I try not to be too optimistic is that it generally means you have signed up to a big fall, maybe I have a few too many mental scars following Stoke City, but in my experience the whiff of crushed expectations is never too far away
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Post by ProctorDre on Jun 22, 2018 10:07:25 GMT
That just shows that there always has to be some negativity somewhere. You're happy enough with the potential signing but lets have a moan because some people are perhaps being a bit too optimistic. Which btw, I don't really see anyone "creaming their pants" about it. Mainly just people saying it would be a good signing, which it would. What's wrong with people being optimistic? I'd rather have a thread full of some optimism than a bunch of miserable bastards any day. The reason I try not to be too optimistic is that it generally means you have signed up to a big fall, maybe I have a few too many mental scars following Stoke City, but in my experience the whiff of crushed expectations is never too far away I do get your point, but there's gotta be room for some optimism at times. The club seems to be working hard to right the wrongs of the last 2 years, we have a good new manager, we're signing and being linked to all the right players at the moment. The positive vibes at the moment are not unjust.
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Post by leoncort on Jun 22, 2018 10:12:50 GMT
Not only are we signing the players in the right positions where we needed cover/quality but we are signing players of the right age, as GR said in his press conference. Signing young players is the right way to go, i'm very excited for the upcoming season as a result.
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