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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 7, 2018 13:32:12 GMT
If Chelsea really wanted Jack they could have him by the end of today. He's clearly the last choice (if he's on their radar at all that is)
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 7, 2018 13:49:36 GMT
www.skysports.com/transfer-centreCHELSEA EYE UP COURTOIS REPLACEMENTS Athletic Bilbao’s Kepa Arrizabalaga is a goalkeeper target for Chelsea, Sky Sports News understands. With the Blues resigned to losing Thibaut Courtois to Real Madrid before the deadline after he missed training for a second day today, the club are focusing their attentions on securing his replacement. Stoke’s Jack Butland remains their first choice because of the nature of the deal, according to Sky sources, which is expected to cost them £30m if they can act quickly - but that price will rise the close to the deadline it becomes. Arrizabalaga would cost Chelsea much more, and a fee of around £70m would make him the most expensive goalkeeper in the world - eclipsing Alisson only weeks after the Brazilian joined Liverpool. Maurizio Sarri would also like to go for Atletico goalkeeper Jan Oblak, but his £89m release clause is a stumbling block.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Aug 7, 2018 14:46:22 GMT
Why? Do you think he is any more error prone or any less commanding in his box than Butland is at the moment? Err yes. He made a mistake that cost us a goal on Sunday but he also made 2 great saves to keep us in the game. He hasn’t had the best of years but I’m not surprised with the injury he suffered and the car crash of a season we had. Butland is a top goalkeeper and the fact that a club like Chelsea are chasing him tells you all you need to know about his qualities. Federici was brought in as a number 2 and I’d worry if we had to rely on a bloke that’s made 2 appearances in competitive football since 2016. As somebody else has already said - those "great saves" were straight at him - at least one of them would have hit him in the face anyway if he hadn't got his hands to it - while his blooper just before half time was absolutely the last thing we needed (go in one down you've got a chance to regroup - go in two down and you're in trouble). As for Chelsea - they signed Caballero - a comedy keeper at the best of times who's reputation appears to be founded on being above average at saving penalties. Butland is capable of playing better than he currently is - but goalkeeping is a confidence game - and the longer he plays poorly the less likely he is to reach his potential - I'm genuinely surprised at Chelsea's interest. Anyway - here's a prediction - if he DOES go to Chelsea as a direct replacement for Courtois - I'm saying they will be looking for another keeper within two transfer windows.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 7, 2018 15:03:48 GMT
SSN just suggested our back-up plan had been Joe Hart.
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Post by jeycov on Aug 7, 2018 15:06:16 GMT
SSN just suggested our back-up plan had been Joe Hart. To be fair to Hart he could not leave this to the very last moment Good luck to him
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 7, 2018 15:31:27 GMT
Kepa seems to be the new name getting the buzz this afternoon. 80m euros though? That would be....bold.
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 7, 2018 15:52:04 GMT
If they're going for Jack because he costs less than £70 million then we should ask for £50 million. They still get to save £20 mil.
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Post by knyperstokie on Aug 7, 2018 15:52:17 GMT
I cannot see Chelsea coming for Jack, other than a last minute stand in until they find someone else. His form has slipped ever since he did his ankle playing for England. Jack could do with going to a premiership club to regain his form (I don't see it happening at Stoke) but I'd be surprised if it was a top six club.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 7, 2018 16:03:57 GMT
80m euros for players I've never heard of. Presumably he's pretty good?
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Aug 7, 2018 16:13:16 GMT
If they're going for Jack because he costs less than £70 million then we should ask for £50 million. They still get to save £20 mil. If they wanted a dodgy English keeper they could have signed Hart for £3.5m. Why on earth would they sign Butland for £30m plus.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 7, 2018 17:13:54 GMT
That's that then.........
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Post by philb on Aug 7, 2018 17:51:02 GMT
That's that then......... Butland is staying 👍
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 7, 2018 17:56:45 GMT
That's that then......... Butland is staying 👍 Shame getting 30m could have made a big difference. He's been poor lately 30m would have been excellent money.
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Post by werrington on Aug 7, 2018 18:02:04 GMT
Shame getting 30m could have made a big difference. He's been poor lately 30m would have been excellent money. He’s also been excellent lately ....St Pauli
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Post by smallthorner on Aug 7, 2018 18:12:07 GMT
Oh dear. Really hoped we could have cashed in and bought Westwood or Grant on loan. Using the money to fund a couple of new players.
I honestly think Butland is shot to pieces ....
His kicking and distribution is getting worse by the game.
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Post by slpmarc on Aug 7, 2018 18:17:29 GMT
Like I said a few days ago, Butland won’t be sold this Window. Chelsea have left it too late. The press just need to catch up with the news I said Aye
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Post by Silkystoke on Aug 7, 2018 18:23:40 GMT
Butland. Is a class keeper, can’t believe some of you retards are slagging him off..!!!! He’s saved us so many times from a good hiding it’s incredible...!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2018 18:25:30 GMT
Oh dear. Really hoped we could have cashed in and bought Westwood or Grant on loan. Using the money to fund a couple of new players. I honestly think Butland is shot to pieces .... His kicking and distribution is getting worse by the game. Shot to pieces? Behave......
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 7, 2018 18:30:44 GMT
Disappointing!
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Post by thicknthin on Aug 7, 2018 18:31:08 GMT
Butland. Is a class keeper, can’t believe some of you retards are slagging him off..!!!! He’s saved us so many times from a good hiding it’s incredible...!!!!! I agree! The whole team will look and play better once we can scrape a few wins together. They need to ease the pressure.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 7, 2018 18:31:57 GMT
Butland. Is a class keeper, can’t believe some of you retards are slagging him off..!!!! He’s saved us so many times from a good hiding it’s incredible...!!!!! He was woeful last season. And that second on Sunday carries that on. He’s had one good season for us. He’s got a lot to prove. He needs to get his head screwed on, stop making the fuck ups and play well.
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Post by smallthorner on Aug 7, 2018 18:38:02 GMT
Oh dear. Really hoped we could have cashed in and bought Westwood or Grant on loan. Using the money to fund a couple of new players. I honestly think Butland is shot to pieces .... His kicking and distribution is getting worse by the game. Shot to pieces? Behave...... Behave? His confidence is rock bottom prestwich.. If you cannot see that you are looking through rose tinted glasses. If a club had offered 20 million for him this window I would have snapped their hands off. Nobody wants him do they?
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Post by scfcballers on Aug 7, 2018 18:45:34 GMT
His confidence must have taken a major battering this summer with Pickford beating him to the number one spot for England and not being the top gk target for a few top premier league clubs. Just hope our fans don’t get on his back too much, there’s still a top goalkeeper in there somewhere.
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Post by Silkystoke on Aug 7, 2018 18:49:45 GMT
Butland. Is a class keeper, can’t believe some of you retards are slagging him off..!!!! He’s saved us so many times from a good hiding it’s incredible...!!!!! He was woeful last season. And that second on Sunday carries that on. He’s had one good season for us. He’s got a lot to prove. He needs to get his head screwed on, stop making the fuck ups and play well. Disagree, sorry ..!!!! It’s the fuckin 10 infromt of him that’s let him down..!! The whole team have been shite for 2/3 years... The Coates family were happy with a top 10 finish, it’s back fired big time and they are clueless of what to do....!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2018 18:55:28 GMT
Shot to pieces? Behave...... Behave? His confidence is rock bottom prestwich.. If you cannot see that you are looking through rose tinted glasses. If a club had offered 20 million for him this window I would have snapped their hands off. Nobody wants him do they? He dropped a bollock on Sunday and 3/4 of his kicks were poor. No arguments from me there. Name me all these howlers last season then that people are talking about? (I’ll give you Leicester away) He made more saves than any other Premier League keeper, and looked assured for England pre-World Cup. He may have a hangover from not being first choice during the summer who knows, but if he stays I’ll be more than happy he’s a top goalkeeper.....
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Post by sportsman on Aug 7, 2018 19:09:23 GMT
Shot to pieces? Behave...... Behave? His confidence is rock bottom prestwich.. If you cannot see that you are looking through rose tinted glasses. If a club had offered 20 million for him this window I would have snapped their hands off. Nobody wants him do they? The injuries he's had really set him back. Up to then he was fantastic. Now he's staying, and by all accounts, missed out on a potential Chelsea move, I hope that now makes him really determined to get back to the level he and we know he can get back to.
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Post by camstoke10 on Aug 7, 2018 19:12:09 GMT
Like I said a few days ago, Butland won’t be sold this Window. Chelsea have left it too late. The press just need to catch up with the news I said Aye said the same thing but someone brought up abiut the loan market
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Post by smallthorner on Aug 7, 2018 19:18:32 GMT
Behave? His confidence is rock bottom prestwich.. If you cannot see that you are looking through rose tinted glasses. If a club had offered 20 million for him this window I would have snapped their hands off. Nobody wants him do they? He dropped a bollock on Sunday and 3/4 of his kicks were poor. No arguments from me there. Name me all these howlers last season then that people are talking about? (I’ll give you Leicester away) He made more saves than any other Premier League keeper, and looked assured for England pre-World Cup. He may have a hangover from not being first choice during the summer who knows, but if he stays I’ll be more than happy he’s a top goalkeeper..... He was average at best last season. His kicking and distribution is woeful. Gareth Southgate obviously agrees.
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Post by jeycov on Aug 7, 2018 19:28:17 GMT
A few good wins, clean sheets and confidence will start to grow throughout the club We’ve still got a very good squad for this league Once the distraction of the transfer window disappears we can focus on our game
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Post by lordb on Aug 7, 2018 19:31:32 GMT
Butland. Is a class keeper, can’t believe some of you retards are slagging him off..!!!! He’s saved us so many times from a good hiding it’s incredible...!!!!! He was woeful last season. And that second on Sunday carries that on. He’s had one good season for us. He’s got a lot to prove. He needs to get his head screwed on, stop making the fuck ups and play well. I think you are overplaying this view. He wasn't woeful at all. Errors crept in and agree that's carried in, he's got to sort his head out. Cut down on the errors (all keepers make mistakes but it's too many currently) and work on his kicking. Every other club in our league would love to have him.
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