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Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 27, 2018 16:14:12 GMT
I don't want Lambert but the suggestion that we take Gerrard (who as far as I know has no managerial experience or coaching badges) is just bonkers. This is the problem c.f.with the "anyone but the current manager" approach, there's always someone worse! We need to get the next appointment right or we are fucked We are fucked. The next manager needs to 'un-fuck' us. And that's going to take some doing. Any suggestions?
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Post by lordb on Apr 27, 2018 16:26:44 GMT
re Lambert what's his track record in transfer dealings like? I know he signed Benteke for Villa but can't recall much else. He has a penchant for British players, which pissed off the Wolves owners and was one of the reasons they fired him. Didn't think he was there long enough to sign any?
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Post by lordb on Apr 27, 2018 16:27:57 GMT
re Lambert what's his track record in transfer dealings like? I know he signed Benteke for Villa but can't recall much else. Aston Villa signings: Ashley Westwood, Libor Kozak, Jed Steer, Leandro Bacuna, Aly Cissokho, Carlos Sanchez and Carles Gil, Ron vlaar, Kieran Richardson, yacouba sylla,Aleksandar Tonev,Nicklas Helenius,Jordan Bowery, Antonio Luna, Joe Cole. (To name a few) Norwich signings: James Vaughan, Steve Morison ,Elliott Bennett, Ritchie De Laet Bradley Johnson Kyle Naughton Daniel Ayala, Jonathan Howson Ryan Bennett His Villa transfer record apart from Benteke was woeful most of those signings were flops and there were all on a shoe string budget the rest were experienced journeymen on free transfers. His Norwich signings weren't anything special either all bang average players however those shown above were his signings during there premier league season. Not great lists.
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Post by lordb on Apr 27, 2018 16:29:18 GMT
What's Marco Silva got to do with Wolves? Early 40s Portuguese manager with attacking outlook. Much like the Wolves boss, Nuno Dean Smith plays attacking football and unlike Silva isn't all mouth/no trousers.
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Post by kustokie on Apr 27, 2018 16:29:40 GMT
He has a penchant for British players, which pissed off the Wolves owners and was one of the reasons they fired him. Didn't think he was there long enough to sign any? His team selections do seem to suggest he doesnât rate furenners.
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Post by lordb on Apr 27, 2018 16:30:21 GMT
QSF turned down Premier League Stoke,why would he then take on Championship Stoke? Unrealistic as is Tuchel as was mentioned earlier. Dean Smith,Potter are realistic shouts. However it's absolutely obvious that Lambert will start the season. "However it's absolutely obvious that Lambert will start the season" Well that's my next season ruined! âšī¸đ đđŦ Probably only the start of the season...
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Apr 27, 2018 16:34:26 GMT
Didn't he trot out this shit line the other week against Arsenal? You were managing a different team with different players against a different manager with different players you Glaswegian bell end Stoke have a great record against Chelsea in cup finals too!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2018 16:37:28 GMT
Didn't he trot out this shit line the other week against Arsenal? You were managing a different team with different players against a different manager with different players you Glaswegian bell end Stoke have a great record against Chelsea in cup finals too! Just out of interest what would you have likes him to say?
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Post by nigerianstokie on Apr 27, 2018 16:39:40 GMT
re Lambert what's his track record in transfer dealings like? I know he signed Benteke for Villa but can't recall much else. Aston Villa signings: Ashley Westwood, Libor Kozak, Jed Steer, Leandro Bacuna, Aly Cissokho, Carlos Sanchez and Carles Gil, Ron vlaar, Kieran Richardson, yacouba sylla,Aleksandar Tonev,Nicklas Helenius,Jordan Bowery, Antonio Luna, Joe Cole. (To name a few) Norwich signings: James Vaughan, Steve Morison ,Elliott Bennett, Ritchie De Laet Bradley Johnson Kyle Naughton Daniel Ayala, Jonathan Howson Ryan Bennett His Villa transfer record apart from Benteke was woeful most of those signings were flops and there were all on a shoe string budget the rest were experienced journeymen on free transfers. His Norwich signings weren't anything special either all bang average players however those shown above were his signings during there premier league season. I would love Ashley Westwood in the Championship if Burnley are happy to sell.
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Post by nigerianstokie on Apr 27, 2018 16:40:28 GMT
Lambert will not be here come Christmas. 9pts from the next three games and he will. That kind of run and he gets a lifetime contract with a clause that says we can never sack him.
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Post by FrankButcher on Apr 27, 2018 16:44:36 GMT
Aston Villa signings: Ashley Westwood, Libor Kozak, Jed Steer, Leandro Bacuna, Aly Cissokho, Carlos Sanchez and Carles Gil, Ron vlaar, Kieran Richardson, yacouba sylla,Aleksandar Tonev,Nicklas Helenius,Jordan Bowery, Antonio Luna, Joe Cole. (To name a few) Norwich signings: James Vaughan, Steve Morison ,Elliott Bennett, Ritchie De Laet Bradley Johnson Kyle Naughton Daniel Ayala, Jonathan Howson Ryan Bennett His Villa transfer record apart from Benteke was woeful most of those signings were flops and there were all on a shoe string budget the rest were experienced journeymen on free transfers. His Norwich signings weren't anything special either all bang average players however those shown above were his signings during there premier league season. I would love Ashley Westwood in the Championship if Burnley are happy to sell. There letting Scott arfield go who plays in midfield he'd be handy in the championship.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2018 16:45:46 GMT
I would love Ashley Westwood in the Championship if Burnley are happy to sell. There letting Scott arfield go who plays in midfield he'd be handy in the championship. Signed a 4 year pre-contract with Rangers today.....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2018 17:13:58 GMT
I still think Gary Monk would have been a good fit for us, as well as still thinking Swansea got rid of him too soon!
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Apr 27, 2018 17:27:38 GMT
Didn't he trot out this shit line the other week against Arsenal? You were managing a different team with different players against a different manager with different players you Glaswegian bell end Stoke have a great record against Chelsea in cup finals too! Just out of interest what would you have likes him to say? I don't think it's a necessary comment. His past history is/was irrelevant in both cases as the result at Arsenal proved. His comment about last week being a ' must win' was stupid too. There was already huge pressure on the team, his comments only added to it.
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Post by cousindupree on Apr 27, 2018 17:29:28 GMT
He has a penchant for British players, which pissed off the Wolves owners and was one of the reasons they fired him. Didn't think he was there long enough to sign any? No he got fired before they let him spend any money. It was however his major theme for the upcoming transfer window to recruit British players and this was at odds with the board and they ditched him and Wolves have never looked back since
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2018 18:32:28 GMT
"However it's absolutely obvious that Lambert will start the season" Well that's my next season ruined! âšī¸đ đđŦ Probably only the start of the season... Silver lining đđ
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2018 18:33:48 GMT
I still think Gary Monk would have been a good fit for us, as well as still thinking Swansea got rid of him too soon! Good shout. Did well for them after Brenda left, but perhaps a lambert-esque uninspiring đđŦ
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Post by nigerianstokie on Apr 27, 2018 19:43:55 GMT
I would love Ashley Westwood in the Championship if Burnley are happy to sell. There letting Scott arfield go who plays in midfield he'd be handy in the championship. Not a fan myself. I suppose as backup he would be bearable.
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Post by FrankButcher on Apr 27, 2018 19:48:56 GMT
There letting Scott arfield go who plays in midfield he'd be handy in the championship. Not a fan myself. I suppose as backup he would be bearable. He's apparently signed a pre contract with rangers so we won't be seeing him at Stoke haha.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Apr 27, 2018 22:34:40 GMT
Is this the ostrich thread - loads of speculation about the next manager when its perfectly clear its going to be Lambert.
Not who I'd have chosen - but he's already dismantling the squad and establishing the sort of team team ethic we're going to need in the Championship. He's doing what needs to be done, he's started early and Coates is going to let him carry on over the summer. Moan all you like - but that's whats going to happen whether you like it or not.
The sad fact is this squad isn't good enough for the Premiership - and Lambert isn't good enough to change that reality. It doesn't mean he isn't good enough to give us a chance of promotion with a squad of his choosing. Anyway - that's what is going to happen and I'm quite looking forward to it.
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Post by vahl on Apr 28, 2018 9:12:17 GMT
Do people actually blame Moyes for Sunderland? Dunno about that. That is also just casually missing out what he did with Preston, Everton and now the West Ham turnaround job on the pitch even though the club is wrecked. His Man Utd spell was as good as LVG's as well I think, although I don't know the actual facts on that one. Moyes would be more than ideal, I think a lot of Stoke fans are level headed and realise that, so yes I speak for others too in a way when I say this. I have in fact seen him getting mentioned for it on this very messageboard. He didn't help himself going in and pretty much writing them off straight away. He told them what was going to happen and it happened. Isn't that actually good management?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 28, 2018 13:51:11 GMT
He didn't help himself going in and pretty much writing them off straight away. He told them what was going to happen and it happened. Isn't that actually good management? No, his job was to try and keep them going not go in and give them nothing to hope for.
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