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Post by Clayton Wood on Apr 26, 2018 12:30:56 GMT
news.sky.com/story/fa-nets-wembley-bid-amid-reported-500m-deal-11347203The Football Association (FA) has confirmed receiving a bid for Wembley stadium, in a deal Sky sources understand to be worth £600m.But it is understood the bidder is the billionaire owner of Fulham Football Club, Shahid Khan, who also owns the Jacksonville Jaguars NFL team.
Sources suggest that if talks are successful, a deal would signal the creation of the first NFL franchise outside the US meaning the England football team to play autumn games across the country rather than at the home of English football.White elephant up for grabs then?
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Apr 26, 2018 12:32:51 GMT
I bet Tottenham are pleased...
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Post by toppercorner on Apr 26, 2018 12:41:02 GMT
and so it begins ... the gradual breakdown of domestic football.
You might think that sounds dramatic, but once the Americans have got there hands on the national stadium, it can only mean a back and forth of NFL over here and FA over there. Tottenham already bring over the NFL and you can bet it'll be bigger in the new ground.
Once everyone is used to the idea of "it's just one game over there" it'll be in the supporters mindset, and before you know it, it'll be Chelsea Vs ManU at the Hollywood Bowl (midnight KO for us), and then some more friendlies of Barca Vs Man City in Chicago etc ... and before you know it, the money men , will go "what about a Global league involving the biggest teams in the world" etc etc ... Even the Champions league won't be able to withstand it.
£500m also sounds cheap considering it was about £900m to build.
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Post by Olgrligm on Apr 26, 2018 12:41:45 GMT
Good news. They can use that money to build a proper national stadium in the Midlands, with decent infrastructure links and not stuck in the middle of a dodgy market.
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Post by Ygor on Apr 26, 2018 12:45:59 GMT
I bet Tottenham are pleased... I wonder if the NFL might block the move? They have chucked £10 million into the new Spurs stadium and are contracted for around 10 years to stage 2 NFL games a year there. I guess the £10m is peanuts in the great scheme of things but from what I've read, the new Spurs stadium will be much more NFL friendly from the changing rooms to the retractable pitch (American football does tend to wreck your turf a bit!). As an NFL fan too, I will watch this one with interest! |
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Post by danceswithclams on Apr 26, 2018 12:48:05 GMT
£500m for a 90,000 seater stadium?
Tell him that he can buy a 30,000 seater one in Stoke for half that and it comes with a ready made Championship side (plus a free Kevin Wimmer worth £18m!)
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Post by rambler on Apr 26, 2018 12:58:44 GMT
I hate the fact that London gets everything as much as everyone else North of Milton Keynes and agree that some England games should be played at Villa Park, Old Trafford etc.. and I miss fa cup games at Cardiff which is a much better stadium in my opinion but selling the home of English football to an American is embarrassing beyond belief. Nobody cares about your stupid boring game and pushing real football out of Wembley will change nothing, the old slimy gits will pocket the money and England will be forced to pay West Ham a billion pounds to play at the running track. Jog on Khan.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 26, 2018 13:01:24 GMT
It's £500million for the stadium and £300million for the club wembley sales. £800million total for a stadium that cost £757million to build.
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Post by Veritas on Apr 26, 2018 13:04:05 GMT
Good news. They can use that money to build a proper national stadium in the Midlands, with decent infrastructure links and not stuck in the middle of a dodgy market. I doubt very much whether this would mean any change to where England play or future Cup finals, play offs etc no doubt these fixtures will be guaranteed as part of any deal. |
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Post by werrington on Apr 26, 2018 13:51:48 GMT
Good news. They can use that money to build a proper national stadium in the Midlands, with decent infrastructure links and not stuck in the middle of a dodgy market. You really want to watch stoke in a cup final in Solihull ? |
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Post by enuntio on Apr 26, 2018 14:02:53 GMT
Take the cash
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Post by Olgrligm on Apr 26, 2018 14:14:39 GMT
Good news. They can use that money to build a proper national stadium in the Midlands, with decent infrastructure links and not stuck in the middle of a dodgy market. You really want to watch stoke in a cup final in Solihull ? I can't remember a more joyless occasion than the slow trudge back home on the coach from Wembley after the Cup Final. You get pretty much no benefit from the final being in London because it's in an area that's a complete dump. I really don't see the problem with doing the stadium properly in a proper location. |
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Post by Fenparkpotter on Apr 26, 2018 14:16:12 GMT
Good news. They can use that money to build a proper national stadium in the Midlands, with decent infrastructure links and not stuck in the middle of a dodgy market. You really want to watch stoke in a cup final in Solihull ? A chance would be a fine thing |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 14:41:56 GMT
The FA has a price  Who knew  GD |
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Post by werrington on Apr 26, 2018 15:00:27 GMT
You really want to watch stoke in a cup final in Solihull ? I can't remember a more joyless occasion than the slow trudge back home on the coach from Wembley after the Cup Final. You get pretty much no benefit from the final being in London because it's in an area that's a complete dump. I really don't see the problem with doing the stadium properly in a proper location. London soaks everybody up, infastructure, pubs, food it’s got the lot for 90k people all on a day out Anywhere else has one city centre |
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Apr 26, 2018 15:11:57 GMT
I can't remember a more joyless occasion than the slow trudge back home on the coach from Wembley after the Cup Final. You get pretty much no benefit from the final being in London because it's in an area that's a complete dump. I really don't see the problem with doing the stadium properly in a proper location. London soaks everybody up, infastructure, pubs, food it’s got the lot for 90k people all on a day out Anywhere else has one city centre We'll build it here then. Some can go down Stoke, others up Hanley, some down Fenton, others up Longton. We'll leave Burslem & Tunstall out of it as they're shitholes no-one cares about. We can even send the VIP's up 'Castle! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 15:16:56 GMT
Fuck it off, let them have it
Italy have no national stadium (Germans too? 🤔)
England travel the country, we all get to see them at OUR HOME
Cup final? Citeh v arsenal? Stick it in the Midlands. Two London clubs Arsenal and spurs? Send them Chelsea. Citeh v Liverpool? Everton or Manure, or even Bolton. Share the wealth
Nothing detracts from your team being in a cup final 👍
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 15:19:12 GMT
Good news. They can use that money to build a proper national stadium in the Midlands, with decent infrastructure links and not stuck in the middle of a dodgy market. You really want to watch stoke in a cup final in Solihull ? I'd like to watch them in a cup final! Nationally it's the English Premier League or English FA Cup not the London league or cup 👍😁 |
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Post by flea79 on Apr 26, 2018 15:20:23 GMT
i found Wembley in its current form to be without character or soul, yes it was lovely and clean with nice wide concourses but it lacked an atmosphere, I whisper this but when visiting somewhere like Old Trafford you can feel it has seen some special times and the history in the place
England should tour again and be the fans team not just those down south
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Apr 26, 2018 15:32:16 GMT
I can't remember a more joyless occasion than the slow trudge back home on the coach from Wembley after the Cup Final. You get pretty much no benefit from the final being in London because it's in an area that's a complete dump. I really don't see the problem with doing the stadium properly in a proper location. London soaks everybody up, infastructure, pubs, food it’s got the lot for 90k people all on a day out Anywhere else has one city centre During the years that the Cup Final and the playoffs were played in Cardiff, fans seemed to manage to get themselves fed and watered OK - just as they do when a 6 nations match is played there. OK the stadium isn't quite as big as Wembley - but Cardiff is only a third of the population of Birmingham, so you'd imagine that Birmingham would have (or would soon get) the catering and licenced premises to cope with a full stadium of 90K + and the presence of a national stadium would give a huge boost to transport links etc. I'm not saying that I think today's news will mean a new National Stadium in England's second city - but if the decision had been made to build a national stadium there, Birmingham would have coped well and for most games many perhaps half of the fans would have had less far to travel. We really are too London-centric in England and the UK - other countries manage to cope perfectly well with a political capital separated from the commercial and cultural capital. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 26, 2018 15:45:41 GMT
600m doesn't seem that much really.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Apr 26, 2018 15:49:49 GMT
600m doesn't seem that much really. I agree.I was half listening to Talksport this afternoon in the car and they seemed to think that the total deal would be closer to £1 billion. If it is only £600 million then it was hardly worth going to the trauma of building it where they built it. They could have built a better stadium for less money on a brownfield site near the National Exhibition centre and Birmingham Airport. |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Apr 26, 2018 15:54:29 GMT
[quote author=" Lakeland Potter" source="/post/6008137/thread" We really are too London-centric in England and the UK - other countries manage to cope perfectly well with a political capital separated from the commercial and cultural capital. [/quote] Not many of them are in Europe though. In fact if you're talking the UK as a whole we're probably more culturally decentralized than most. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 15:54:34 GMT
Wembley is a fucking piss ground.
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Post by Northy on Apr 26, 2018 15:56:16 GMT
The money is supposedly going to help grassroots football prosper. They should have been doing this for the last 20 years, not letting the money go to agents and players bank accounts, leaving the UK to other countries etc. The fookin useless halfwits  |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Apr 26, 2018 16:09:46 GMT
[quote author=" Lakeland Potter" source="/post/6008137/thread" We really are too London-centric in England and the UK - other countries manage to cope perfectly well with a political capital separated from the commercial and cultural capital. Not many of them are in Europe though. In fact if you're talking the UK as a whole we're probably more culturally decentralized than most.[/quote] Turkey is the weirdest one with a commercial capital in Europe and a political capital in Asia. Netherlands has separate commercial and political capitals as well. But you are right - most European countries have one mega capital as befits the "old world". |
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Post by lordb on Apr 26, 2018 16:10:36 GMT
i found Wembley in its current form to be without character or soul, yes it was lovely and clean with nice wide concourses but it lacked an atmosphere, I whisper this but when visiting somewhere like Old Trafford you can feel it has seen some special times and the history in the place England should tour again and be the fans team not just those down south I've found Old Trafford to be pretty souless. |
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Post by flea79 on Apr 26, 2018 16:28:13 GMT
i found Wembley in its current form to be without character or soul, yes it was lovely and clean with nice wide concourses but it lacked an atmosphere, I whisper this but when visiting somewhere like Old Trafford you can feel it has seen some special times and the history in the place England should tour again and be the fans team not just those down south I've found Old Trafford to be pretty souless. I know what you mean the fans can be pretty toss but going in to OT early which I have before you could feel an atmosphere and that special things have happened there in the past if you catch my drift |
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Post by enuntio on Apr 26, 2018 16:37:03 GMT
again, TAKE THE CASH.
Then rip up the contract regarding England fixtures and have a minimum of 50% of competitive England games played outside of London
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Post by charlesjefferson on Apr 26, 2018 16:43:50 GMT
 Look at that moustache! I didn't get where I am today without looking at that moustache and thinking "Oooooh you beauty!" |
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