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Post by samwidge on May 22, 2018 18:02:37 GMT
Stewart Lee is brilliant and I think Al Murray is a lovely chap but not as big a fan of his comedy. Where did it all go wrong, Leese? My only claim to very slight fame is that Martin Fry did English with me at Sheffield and Phil Oakey stayed in my student house when it was vacant over the Summer. So, a musical connection Stewart Lee is absolutely brilliant. Genius even. Al Murray too seems a lovely fella , but not as funny as Stewart Lee. I went to school in stoke with India Fisher , the voice of MasterChef . If that's any claim to fame I don't know ? 😀. He brother Ryhd and dad Mark the former Stoke MP are Stoke fans !! , And her half brother Crispin Hunt from 90's band the longpigs !!
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Post by musik on May 23, 2018 5:06:29 GMT
Bauer AND Wimmer playing for Austria National team soon, a couple of Friendlies. How's that possible?
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Post by westgatelakes on May 23, 2018 8:13:50 GMT
because they`re both Austrian perhaps ?
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Post by madnellie on May 23, 2018 8:18:13 GMT
God just look at the state of him... doughy faced bastard. Those Spurs players must been pissing themselves when they realised that their fat mate was playing them that day. What a disgrace of a ‘professional’ That picture makes me irrationally angry
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Post by FullerMagic on May 24, 2018 6:43:07 GMT
Strange story in Bild about Denise, of all people, saying she wants Wimmer sold, not loaned. Can't believe she has had anything to do with it at all! www.bild.de/sport/fussball/hannover-96/wimmer-kevin-denise-coates-55786012.bild.htmlBet billionaire Denise Coates (50) is gambling for Wimmer! The lady is not only founder and majority shareholder of "Bet365.com", the world's largest provider of online betting (2000 employees), quintuple mother and US $ 4.6 billion heavy - but also owner of Stoke City. And in that capacity, she seems to have interfered with Wimmer Poker. As BILD learned from England, Mrs. Coates vetoed the planned Wimmer loan: a transfer yes, a loan no - just sell! The transfer was almost through. Manager Heldt, Sporting Director Gerhard Zuber and Breitenreiter were extra at Wimmer in England. Broadly optimistic afterwards: "I very much hope that this can be implemented. Kevin would do us good, he really wants our football. " HERE YOU MEET HANNOVER-STARS! The financing seemed possible. Because Wimmer reported that he has the change-okay from coach Paul Lambert (formerly Dortmund) and Stoke director Mark Cartwright, also on a lending basis. Lambert is gone now - and the stubborn Stoke owner "not amused". Stress for manager Horst Heldt. For the past few days he has tried to soften Stoke and the gambler billionaire. And there is an approximation to BILD information. There was no breakthrough until yesterday, but Mrs. Coates is apparently ready to reconsider her rent-a-veto.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 6:48:16 GMT
Strange story in Bild about Denise, of all people, saying she wants Wimmer sold, not loaned. Can't believe she has had anything to do with it at all! www.bild.de/sport/fussball/hannover-96/wimmer-kevin-denise-coates-55786012.bild.htmlBet billionaire Denise Coates (50) is gambling for Wimmer! The lady is not only founder and majority shareholder of "Bet365.com", the world's largest provider of online betting (2000 employees), quintuple mother and US $ 4.6 billion heavy - but also owner of Stoke City. And in that capacity, she seems to have interfered with Wimmer Poker. As BILD learned from England, Mrs. Coates vetoed the planned Wimmer loan: a transfer yes, a loan no - just sell! The transfer was almost through. Manager Heldt, Sporting Director Gerhard Zuber and Breitenreiter were extra at Wimmer in England. Broadly optimistic afterwards: "I very much hope that this can be implemented. Kevin would do us good, he really wants our football. " HERE YOU MEET HANNOVER-STARS! The financing seemed possible. Because Wimmer reported that he has the change-okay from coach Paul Lambert (formerly Dortmund) and Stoke director Mark Cartwright, also on a lending basis. Lambert is gone now - and the stubborn Stoke owner "not amused". Stress for manager Horst Heldt. For the past few days he has tried to soften Stoke and the gambler billionaire. And there is an approximation to BILD information. There was no breakthrough until yesterday, but Mrs. Coates is apparently ready to reconsider her rent-a-veto. Oh dear. Seems the Mamba has come out to play. Well, play with fire and all that...
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 6:48:18 GMT
Good on her.
I'd rather we keep wimmer and work on him than just pay his wages and let someone else get the benefit
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Post by doitforfrank on May 24, 2018 7:05:53 GMT
Interesting also that Cartwright was involved originally and Denise is involved now. Have the family finally seen sense and jettisoned the fat goalie??
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 24, 2018 7:16:49 GMT
I don’t like this loaning thing it achieves little I’d rather we sold him at a loss and got him permanently off the books
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Post by FullerMagic on May 24, 2018 7:25:19 GMT
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Post by petershiltonsmini on May 24, 2018 7:29:49 GMT
I don’t like this loaning thing it achieves little I’d rather we sold him at a loss and got him permanently off the books It depends I like the idea of loaning out young up and coming players or older pros who are coming back from injury I think it gives clubs a chance to see their players in action with out disturbing the balance of the first team
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Post by petershiltonsmini on May 24, 2018 7:30:11 GMT
But just get rid of Wimmer
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 7:44:48 GMT
I'm sorry, but just look at that!!!!! Look at that fucking photo. I mean seriously: what, the fuck? One of them looks like an elite athlete at the top of his game. The other looks like that fat cunt from the local boozer who spends his time drunkenly reminiscing about driving at 130mph up the bypass in a 1988 Ford Granada, all the time wearing a fake BMW hoodie (loosely based on a real person I see down the pub). Just everything about that photo is fucking wrong. "why does my dinner keep running away!?"
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Post by westgatelakes on May 24, 2018 7:47:02 GMT
I know we`re talking about a lot of money here but sometimes I think it`s better to just cut your losses and get rid, after all, we`re surely going to make a profit from the sales of other players...........you can`t have it both ways !
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Post by metalhead on May 24, 2018 8:18:13 GMT
I know we`re talking about a lot of money here but sometimes I think it`s better to just cut your losses and get rid, after all, we`re surely going to make a profit from the sales of other players...........you can`t have it both ways ! Would you cut your losses over 18 million?
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 24, 2018 8:22:29 GMT
I know we`re talking about a lot of money here but sometimes I think it`s better to just cut your losses and get rid, after all, we`re surely going to make a profit from the sales of other players...........you can`t have it both ways ! Would you cut your losses over 18 million? Yes because otherwise you’ll loan him out for 3-4 years contributing to his wage then you’ll have no fee when his contract runs out. Unless he completely changes for the better as a player he won’t get in the side.
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Post by Northy on May 24, 2018 8:28:17 GMT
Strange story in Bild about Denise, of all people, saying she wants Wimmer sold, not loaned. Can't believe she has had anything to do with it at all! www.bild.de/sport/fussball/hannover-96/wimmer-kevin-denise-coates-55786012.bild.htmlBet billionaire Denise Coates (50) is gambling for Wimmer! The lady is not only founder and majority shareholder of "Bet365.com", the world's largest provider of online betting (2000 employees), quintuple mother and US $ 4.6 billion heavy - but also owner of Stoke City. And in that capacity, she seems to have interfered with Wimmer Poker. As BILD learned from England, Mrs. Coates vetoed the planned Wimmer loan: a transfer yes, a loan no - just sell! The transfer was almost through. Manager Heldt, Sporting Director Gerhard Zuber and Breitenreiter were extra at Wimmer in England. Broadly optimistic afterwards: "I very much hope that this can be implemented. Kevin would do us good, he really wants our football. " HERE YOU MEET HANNOVER-STARS! The financing seemed possible. Because Wimmer reported that he has the change-okay from coach Paul Lambert (formerly Dortmund) and Stoke director Mark Cartwright, also on a lending basis. Lambert is gone now - and the stubborn Stoke owner "not amused". Stress for manager Horst Heldt. For the past few days he has tried to soften Stoke and the gambler billionaire. And there is an approximation to BILD information. There was no breakthrough until yesterday, but Mrs. Coates is apparently ready to reconsider her rent-a-veto. Is Denise going to get the whips out and whip him to run around the training ground making him lose 2 stone and get fit? Bloody hope so.
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Post by lordb on May 24, 2018 8:49:03 GMT
I don’t like this loaning thing it achieves little I’d rather we sold him at a loss and got him permanently off the books Best option in theory is keep the player get him fit and get him playing like he did in Germany. This seems an improbable scenario. Next best is sell. However he's too expensive for Hanover and you'd imagine regardless of the fee his wages would be impossible for interested foreign clubs. That leaves option three where you loan him out and get some of his wages paid by someone else. Not great but preferable to option 4 where he stays, doesn't get fit and he just picks up his wages.
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Post by Ygor on May 24, 2018 8:55:04 GMT
Would you cut your losses over 18 million? Yes because otherwise you’ll loan him out for 3-4 years contributing to his wage then you’ll have no fee when his contract runs out. Unless he completely changes for the better as a player he won’t get in the side. And yes again particularly if you're a £5.75 billionaire who earned over £200m last year. In that scenario, I believe £18m is neither here nor there when you are talking about that sort of wealth. In fact, I'm still in the camp that with a lot of work in the Championship, maybe Rowett can make something of Wimmer. So, I'd consider biting the bullet and pay Berahino off instead. And maybe Imbula too! Just 3 of the headaches for Mr Rowett.
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Post by metalhead on May 24, 2018 9:35:58 GMT
Would you cut your losses over 18 million? Yes because otherwise you’ll loan him out for 3-4 years contributing to his wage then you’ll have no fee when his contract runs out. Unless he completely changes for the better as a player he won’t get in the side. There is obviously a footballer in there somewhere. You don't play Champions League football unless you're half decent. His main problem is clearly his utterly horrendous attitude, which I would suspect, is the main reason he's about 3 stone overweight and totally disinterested in playing. If with the right manager, he can lose that extra weight then potentially we still have a footballer we can use. If he's more interested in being another Wilson Palacios then move him on asap. He's the kind of gangrenous filth we need out of the squad, and preferably out of the club altogether.
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Post by nott1 on May 24, 2018 11:08:31 GMT
Put the fat fecker on Ebay with no reserve!
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Post by robwahlmann on May 24, 2018 11:56:07 GMT
It's easy to undestand why she wants to get rid of this useless lump of a footballer!
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Post by chad on May 24, 2018 12:01:52 GMT
Sack him. And Berahino. Let them take us to court We can plead they are unfit for purpose Would be an interesting test case
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Post by jeycov on May 24, 2018 13:06:22 GMT
A bit harsh on Wimmer. He made shaky start, was pleased to greet some of his ex team mates at Spurs ( so what) and fans, possibly Hughes, have taken an instant dislike to him A bit like Wollscheid, who actually did quite well once he’d settled just not got the Stoke dna An unpopular opinion but I think he needs one more chance - or we need an additional cb
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Post by theteacher on May 24, 2018 13:09:03 GMT
Sack him. And Berahino. Let them take us to court We can plead they are unfit for purpose Would be an interesting test case Or even in breach of contract. Especially in the case of Berahino where he makes the front page of the national press and he doesn’t turn up on time for work and as required/instructed.
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Post by nutterpotter on May 24, 2018 14:39:51 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on May 24, 2018 14:40:50 GMT
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Post by crapslinger on May 24, 2018 14:45:20 GMT
A bit harsh on Wimmer. He made shaky start, was pleased to greet some of his ex team mates at Spurs ( so what) and fans, possibly Hughes, have taken an instant dislike to him A bit like Wollscheid, who actually did quite well once he’d settled just not got the Stoke dna An unpopular opinion but I think he needs one more chance - or we need an additional cb After the shaky start he started wobbling the fat fecker.
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Post by jezzascfc on May 24, 2018 14:55:12 GMT
Disappointed to find out that Ösi means Austrian and not a colloquial term for a lard arse. I hope he goes permanently - I'd accept a bid of 5 million and move on. Offer 10m for Joe Worrall from Forest as a replacement, but on lesser wages than the Viennese gut bucket, and onwards and upwards.
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Post by jimmygscfc on May 24, 2018 15:00:25 GMT
Isn't it a loan with an option to buy though mate? Obviously the fee to buy is agreed beforehand but he needs to get through a season and impress sufficiently. Will that even happen?
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