|
Post by Stoke711 on Mar 12, 2018 22:03:37 GMT
If we are to go down, please can go we go out fighting and trying to score, not just trying to keep the score close.
Against Everton we have to take the game to them from the kick off, not keep it tight for 20 mins and then try and play ourselves into the game.
Show some balls and go for it. Based on our performances so far, if we drop I want Lambert out as seen nothing that offers us anything going forward to make me feel he is the man to bring us back up.
All we have done is tightened up at the back but at the cost of any serious attacking threat.
|
|
|
Post by slother on Mar 12, 2018 22:05:45 GMT
Totally wrong approach. We'd have been 4-0 down inside of half an hour and no chance of fluking anything from there. And goal difference can still play a massive part of the final standings this seasons. You're an imbecile.
|
|
|
Post by spitthedog on Mar 12, 2018 22:08:14 GMT
Several other Prem teams have approached their Man City game more negatively than we did.
did you see Newcastle's game against City?
|
|
|
Lambert
Mar 12, 2018 22:08:47 GMT
via mobile
Post by terryconroysmagic on Mar 12, 2018 22:08:47 GMT
Totally wrong approach. We'd have been 4-0 down inside of half an hour and no chance of fluking anything from there. And goal difference can still play a massive part of the final standings this seasons. You're an imbecile. He hadn't really gone out to win games though, Watford, Brighton & Southampton. Defence looks a bit better but some of his subs are completely baffling and the football is dross
|
|
|
Lambert
Mar 12, 2018 22:09:24 GMT
via mobile
Post by Stoke711 on Mar 12, 2018 22:09:24 GMT
Totally wrong approach. We'd have been 4-0 down inside of half an hour and no chance of fluking anything from there. And goal difference can still play a massive part of the final standings this seasons. You're an imbecile. Draws are going to save us? This is not on tonight, it's every game we've had under Lambert, we should've taken the game to both Watford and Brighton but didn't, we played to keep it close, same at Leicester and So'ton. Wins are going to save us, not our goal difference.
|
|
|
Post by benjaminbiscuit on Mar 12, 2018 22:23:08 GMT
Well since he’s been in charge our goal difference has now got worse and our like for like points too , meanwhile the board say it’s Hughes fault . Make no mistake lambert is pretty clueless that’s why he was cheap and available but Shankly with clough as his assistant would struggle to keep this lot up .
At what point may be Saturday will the spotlight fall In The ground on those truly accountable step forward Carto and Scholes
|
|
|
Post by ursem on Mar 12, 2018 23:14:11 GMT
lambert said a few weeks ago, he would go out to win every time, if that was an attempt to win a game, we need a new manager. you cant win a game by having 11 men in your own half for 80 mins
|
|
|
Post by Staffsoatcake on Mar 12, 2018 23:16:30 GMT
Lambert makes a Pulis side look prolific.
|
|
|
Post by wuzza on Mar 12, 2018 23:18:19 GMT
Getting less impressed with him by the week. The bits of his interviews I can understand are pure dilusional nonsense too.
|
|
|
Post by potter25 on Mar 12, 2018 23:18:22 GMT
This side tonight looked like a Hughes team
Slow and back to butland far too much
|
|
|
Post by thegift on Mar 12, 2018 23:18:48 GMT
Lambert makes Pulis side look prolific. Pulis' side was prolific
|
|
|
Post by pottarius on Mar 12, 2018 23:40:38 GMT
Said it before, I'll say it again, Lambert wants to see out his contract here & thus has a chicken-shit approach to games. He'd rather go down with numerous 0-0 rather than the occasional whipping interspersed with the odd win. I'd be amazed if we have more shots at goal against the Toffees in spite of our obvious need to win After taking 18mths to finally realize Hughes' mojo had gone for a burton, the board have amazingly found a an even worse manager. It'll be interesting to see if Southampton manage to find a decent manager for the rest of the season as surely there are none available given Lambert must of been the best out there(!)
|
|
|
Post by Pugsley on Mar 12, 2018 23:41:42 GMT
Totally wrong approach. We'd have been 4-0 down inside of half an hour and no chance of fluking anything from there. And goal difference can still play a massive part of the final standings this seasons. You're an imbecile. We'll have the same approach against Everton.
|
|
|
Post by spitthedog on Mar 13, 2018 0:39:26 GMT
lambert said a few weeks ago, he would go out to win every time, if that was an attempt to win a game, we need a new manager. you cant win a game by having 11 men in your own half for 80 mins We were in our own half because we kept giving away possession, which is what have been doing all season. We have 3 midfield players who cant pass and get knocked off the ball too easily and have got zero creativity, give away fouls most of the time. That's why we end up in our own half. Not to mention forwards who cant hold the ball even when it gets through to them. I'm not sure what the manager can do about that in a few weeks.
|
|
|
Lambert
Mar 13, 2018 1:02:04 GMT
via mobile
Post by claytonscrubs on Mar 13, 2018 1:02:04 GMT
Pulis...Mark ll
His football bores the arse off me!
|
|
|
Lambert
Mar 13, 2018 1:08:28 GMT
via mobile
Post by Gary Hackett on Mar 13, 2018 1:08:28 GMT
He's tactically inept that's fairly obvious.
He's got them fitter and a bit more organised but that's not difficult from what Hughes left.
|
|
|
Post by pottarius on Mar 13, 2018 3:10:09 GMT
Pulis...Mark ll His football bores the arse off me! McPulis?
|
|
|
Post by staffsvilla on Mar 13, 2018 7:37:32 GMT
I'm genuinely sorry to say the mumbling one has quickly got into his stride and is delivering the same mind numbing dross he dished up for us both on and off the pitch,one flaw in his current master plan he ain't got a Benteke type to rescue him !
|
|
|
Lambert
Mar 13, 2018 7:50:16 GMT
via mobile
Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 13, 2018 7:50:16 GMT
I'm genuinely sorry to say the mumbling one has quickly got into his stride and is delivering the same mind numbing dross he dished up for us both on and off the pitch,one flaw in his current master plan he ain't got a Benteke type to rescue him ! Didn't he do a good job for you in very difficult circumstances?
|
|
Silvio
Youth Player
Posts: 461
|
Lambert
Mar 13, 2018 7:53:44 GMT
via mobile
Post by Silvio on Mar 13, 2018 7:53:44 GMT
The prospect of battling away to a lower mid table finish in the Championship next season under Lambert is depressingly real. Displays under him have been turgid at best.
Man City are possibly the best team we've faced in the last 10 years - supremely good. But we're in the fight of our lives at the minute and they are strolling to the title. We were never going to win but we offered absolutely nothing.
He's got us fitter and more organised but lordy, the football is fucking shit and we hardly look like scoring against anyone nevermind Citeh. He's got all the tactical nous of a stapler.
|
|
|
Post by elystokie on Mar 13, 2018 7:59:31 GMT
Lambert makes Pulis side look prolific. Pulis' side was prolific Go on, I'll be the one that bites, how does being bottom of all 4 divisions in the 'goals for' column make him 'prolific'? I'm going to take a leap of faith and assume you know what the word means so what is it I'm missing?
|
|
|
Post by staffsvilla on Mar 13, 2018 9:18:38 GMT
I'm genuinely sorry to say the mumbling one has quickly got into his stride and is delivering the same mind numbing dross he dished up for us both on and off the pitch,one flaw in his current master plan he ain't got a Benteke type to rescue him ! Didn't he do a good job for you in very difficult circumstances? You could look at that two ways, yes in some respects his hands were tied with regards signings however he still spent over 40 million in 3 seasons and that was before the TV money went crazy, but his tactics,selections and the way he presented himself in the media was all down to him and him alone, I thought I had a pretty extensive book of excuses while I was in the forces but he easily out did me !
|
|
|
Lambert
Mar 13, 2018 9:23:24 GMT
via mobile
Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 13, 2018 9:23:24 GMT
Didn't he do a good job for you in very difficult circumstances? You could look at that two ways, yes in some respects his hands were tied with regards signings however he still spent over 40 million in 3 seasons and that was before the TV money went crazy, but his tactics,selections and the way he presented himself in the media was all down to him and him alone, I thought I had a pretty extensive book of excuses while I was in the forces but he easily out did me ! My question, for the record, was very much tongue in cheek. That line was the pup that our board tried to sell on his appointment. Mark Hughes had lost interest and totally lost the plot. To end up with a manager even worse than him was a feat that only our club could manage...or at least that's what it feels like right now.
|
|
|
Post by owdestokie2 on Mar 13, 2018 9:26:49 GMT
Lambert makes a Pulis side look prolific. Could you or anyone else organise an attacking display with the options being Jese and Moting? Possibly the worst pair of players to play up front for some years at SCFC. Mercenaries with no bollocks or professional pride.
|
|
|
Post by staffsvilla on Mar 13, 2018 9:30:42 GMT
You could look at that two ways, yes in some respects his hands were tied with regards signings however he still spent over 40 million in 3 seasons and that was before the TV money went crazy, but his tactics,selections and the way he presented himself in the media was all down to him and him alone, I thought I had a pretty extensive book of excuses while I was in the forces but he easily out did me ! My question, for the record, was very much tongue in cheek. That line was the pup that our board tried to sell on his appointment. Mark Hughes had lost interest and totally lost the plot. To end up with a manager even worse than him was a feat that only our club could manage...or at least that's what it feels like right now. I did say when he took over good luck your going to need it and I take no pleasure in being right, it's like turning the clock back listening to the same garbage "can't fault the lads", "they gave me everything", "we need a lucky break to kick-start the season" and my personal favourite"we go again"
|
|
|
Lambert
Mar 13, 2018 9:56:29 GMT
via mobile
Post by starkiller on Mar 13, 2018 9:56:29 GMT
My question, for the record, was very much tongue in cheek. That line was the pup that our board tried to sell on his appointment. Mark Hughes had lost interest and totally lost the plot. To end up with a manager even worse than him was a feat that only our club could manage...or at least that's what it feels like right now. I did say when he took over good luck your going to need it and I take no pleasure in being right, it's like turning the clock back listening to the same garbage "can't fault the lads", "they gave me everything", "we need a lucky break to kick-start the season" and my personal favourite"we go again" Well we haven't started the season yet, and it's over in 8 games.
|
|
|
Post by mrred on Mar 13, 2018 9:59:39 GMT
Taking away last night, I can't see this 'attacking, pressing' side that we've been mentioned as. We're just as slow and lumbering as we were under Hughes. He's plugged the back, but I'm as expectant of goals just as I was under Pulis.
|
|
|
Post by cousindupree on Mar 13, 2018 10:14:16 GMT
He has organised the defence and made us look more solid. However to get a team organised is pretty much the bottom line for any manager, bang average champ teams and even top half Div 1 teams can be organised and difficult to score against. Sadly this is not enough to survive in the Prem or even challenge for promotion in the championship, you really have to have more about you and have some offensive tactical knowhow. We will remain tough to beat but won't score enough or win enough games to survive. Lambert's brief was presumably to keep us up and was given 15 games to get around 18 pts, hardly a mission impossible. Under Lambert we are averaging less than 1 goal per game which is almost Pulis in his binary season and averaging 1 pt per game which without improvement will see us relegated on 35 pts. There is a reason why Lambert couldn't find a club even in the Championship.....he's not very good. 2 more years of Lambert will see us continue to decline....very depressing
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 10:49:34 GMT
He has organised the defence and made us look more solid. Has he bollocks.
|
|
|
Post by mrcoke on Mar 13, 2018 10:50:43 GMT
Lambert has never been an all out attack manager. For poor teams that does not work; the proven best policy is to stop the opposition and nick the occasional win. Lambert is the same school as Pulis, Allerdyce, Dyche, and Hughes in the end; stop the other team scoring is worth a point and build from there with a goal from a set piece or counter attack. What a manager says publicly ( "attack", "cup finals", etc.) isn't necessarily the same as what he actually does. You don't broadcast your tactics. We have actually come very close to "nicking" 3 points in the matches against Watford*, Brighton**, and Leicester*** and missed a sitter against Southampton. * we had the only clear cut chance to score: www.skysports.com/football/stoke-vs-watford/stats/373345** missed penalty *** Butland error Personally I think PL has taken the right approach. Stop the goals conceded****, establish fitness, play with more energy, and build from there. Regrettably he hasn't got a satisfactory striker to turn to; Coates says they tried to sign someone and failed. **** ManC have scored 85 times in 30 matches and scored less than 2 in only 6 matches.
|
|