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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2018 16:15:48 GMT
Oh so you saw it when we were 5 points off a champions league place with 7 games to go then? It was after the 0-3 home defeat against Everton actually. I’m hoping for an improvement on Saturday Oh so beforehand. We then in the next few months went on to get up to 7th place and were within 2 wins of top 4 at one point. If you were moaning then it was daft of you. Either that or you're telling fibs.
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Mar 15, 2018 16:26:54 GMT
No respect whatsoever he left us in a dire state unfit unbalanced unmotivated. He was backed by the board & bought very poor players who did not fit the system he tried to play we will probably suffer for years for his incompetence.I cannot for the life of me see why Southampton have given him the job its more of a desperate appointment than us giving Lambert the job. If he keeps them up which is likely with the players at his disposal and we go down which is highly likely due to the players he has left here we should refuse to do any business with him, he will come in for Allen but not the other shit he has left us in his wank legacy, he set QPR back at least four years and has replicated his wankness at Stoke he's a grade A C*nt. Why did we not take notice of the mess he left at QPR before giving him the job here. All those QPR fans who warned us about Hughes were spot on.
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Post by realstokebloke on Mar 15, 2018 16:37:13 GMT
I liked him.
After TP he was a breath of fresh air and after a sluggish start, we were flying, peaking with the 6 - 1 vs the bin dippers. The future was right there in front of us.
Then, for whatever multitude of reasons (it surely wasn't all his fault), it became a right horlicks - with complete and utter transfer disasters and a nonsensical notion that we should play wing backs without actually having any, getting an honourable mention.
And, as an aside, come what may at the end of the season, Uncle Pete & co better have a Spanish stylee Inquisition on what, exactly did go wrong and sweep out accordingly.
Then to make it worse, he was left to rot and the situation fester by the board for far too long (again, not his fault - as one of the merry go round manager crew, he was never going to resign was he?) thus leaving us in the very deep, very brown, brown stuff.
So, no, while I can't find it in my heart to lob pure vitriol at him like some, I don't have anything like the respect or appreciation of him any longer.
Plus he's gone so we move on. He's just dead to me now.
The fact that he is now plotting Southampton's survival at our expense just makes it interesting. Let's see how that pans out.
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Mar 15, 2018 16:37:22 GMT
There can't be many professions in life where you continue to gain employment after getting sacked for being wank. Hughes, Lambert, Hodgson, Moyes, and that bell end at the Baggies.
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Post by Scrotnig on Mar 15, 2018 16:43:43 GMT
I used to like him. He did well here for three years, and that can't be denied.
When we started to struggle I said he should have gone. His performance at QPR was clearly making a return but the club couldn't see it and we are going to 'do a QPR' ourselves and plummet down the leagues for another couple of decades.
It's very sad and was completely avoidable if certain people could have "seen what all the fuss was about".
Now Hughes will be remembered not as the man who did a lot of good for the club, but as the man who destroyed it and sent us back into oblivion.
That he'd already done exactly this once should have kept him out of football management forever, but it seems there's always someone gullible or desperate enough.
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Post by thegift on Mar 15, 2018 17:09:28 GMT
You know what, i can safely sit here and say Mark Hughes has now bypassed our hero in the form of how much he is hated generally amongst this forum. Apart from your unusual MH rimmers, no fucker likes him.
But Sailer is right, if southampton were to come here and take 3 points with sparky in charge you'd see a west ham esque reaction.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2018 17:10:22 GMT
We have not played a team capable of giving us a good hiding we are now about to see if the defence is better it was symbolic the other night. Are you still so upset? No doubt you will continue to wish LMH well as Soton..... I wish him well but hope they go down that's what grown ups do. I'm upset because a useless spanner is our manager now not because LMH was sacked he deserved it.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 15, 2018 17:13:31 GMT
Which isn't the same thing as 'I never wanted him here, I knew he'd relegate us' is it? You'd think the way some people carry on the entire Hughes era was a nightmare. No,it’s not but had he been sacked in May 16 we might possibly be in a better situation now. As I said, it was very clear then when the thrashing’s began he had lost the plot and the downward spiral continued until his ultimate dismissal I don't think many would disagree with that. My point about the Liverpool game really wasn't anything to do with that though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2018 17:14:17 GMT
As long as it's not at the detriment of us I have no issues with Hughes. Was a breath of fresh air for 3 seasons, before losing his way and the wheels eventually falling off.
Could Hughes have prevented the downturn? Arguably yes but managers are an egotistical bunch and he probably thought that the methods that have largely served him well over the years would eventually lead to a turnaround in form. He was wrong.
How much of it was down to not being backed? I would say maybe more than some possibly imagine, when we were riding high and he tried to buy "next level" players the recruitment team and our inflexible wage structure had us missing out to teams of a similar ilk on a regular basis.
As for his characteristics, I actually thought he was great in terms of bigging the club up and helping shake the "little old Stoke" tag off at first. He got prickly towards the end, quite simply he was a football manager under pressure and not winning games. But his statement on leaving was decent and despite how it ended I have no real problems with him. Managers come and go, teams go though peaks and troughs and the rest is largely pantomime.
If it means us staying up I hope he flops spectacularly, if it doesn't affect us I'm not that arsed either way......
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Mar 15, 2018 17:55:40 GMT
You know what, i can safely sit here and say Mark Hughes has now bypassed our hero in the form of how much he is hated generally amongst this forum. Apart from your unusual MH rimmers, no fucker likes him. But Sailer is right, if southampton were to come here and take 3 points with sparky in charge you'd see a west ham esque reaction. I disagree with every point made in that post.
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Post by spoton on Mar 15, 2018 17:59:22 GMT
I don't get angry very often but on hearing that Mr Hughes as been given a contract to the end of the season AND OUR F**CKING IDIOTS DOWN STOKE GAVE LAMBERT 2.5YEARS WHY DIDN'T WE DO THE SAME,CALLING THEM IDIOTS IS ME TRYING TO BE CALM
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Post by cheekycheddleton on Mar 15, 2018 18:09:54 GMT
fraid to say that hughes is sending us down. for me not good enough. pulis and hughes both crap hughes worse. lambert gets to many draws. need a european manager
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Post by cheekycheddleton on Mar 15, 2018 18:14:22 GMT
pulis doing vry good job at middlesbourough tru
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Post by chuckrocky on Mar 15, 2018 18:17:45 GMT
There’s something about him getting another crack at the FA cup this weekend that’s really pissing me off.
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Post by samba :) on Mar 15, 2018 18:27:40 GMT
There’s something about him getting another crack at the FA cup this weekend that’s really pissing me off. same... gets knocked out by coventry... gets an attempt to go to wembley by beating league one wigan. How the fuck has he got that job i dont understand
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 15, 2018 18:27:53 GMT
Fucking hell, Stokie Stuart has just slaughtered Hughes on Talksport! Wonder if he's an Oatcake regular?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2018 18:29:03 GMT
There’s something about him getting another crack at the FA cup this weekend that’s really pissing me off. It's a weird injustice. Gets the sack for sending a club down after losing to a side three leagues below in the 3rd round of the cup, then gets a job with a better side 2 months later and manages in the Quarter Finals.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 15, 2018 18:29:40 GMT
Fucking hell, Stokie Stuart has just slaughtered Hughes on Talksport! Wonder if he's an Oatcake regular? Just about to ask the same question mate😮😄
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 15, 2018 18:32:35 GMT
Fucking hell, Stokie Stuart has just slaughtered Hughes on Talksport! Wonder if he's an Oatcake regular? Just about to ask the same question mate😮😄 I don't think he was far wrong, though.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 15, 2018 18:33:28 GMT
Fucking hell, Stokie Stuart has just slaughtered Hughes on Talksport! Wonder if he's an Oatcake regular? Just about to ask the same question mate😮😄 It was crapslinger
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 15, 2018 18:34:55 GMT
Just about to ask the same question mate😮😄 It was crapslinger How do you know that? Did he make the same point a million times in a 3 minute phone call?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 15, 2018 18:39:20 GMT
Just about to ask the same question mate😮😄 I don't think he was far wrong, though. He was bang on mate
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 15, 2018 18:39:43 GMT
Just about to ask the same question mate😮😄 It was crapslinger It did cross my mind😄
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 15, 2018 18:40:48 GMT
There’s something about him getting another crack at the FA cup this weekend that’s really pissing me off. It's a weird injustice. Gets the sack for sending a club down after losing to a side three leagues below in the 3rd round of the cup, then gets a job with a better side 2 months later and manages in the Quarter Finals. I never even thought about that. I now want him to lose every game and get uncontrollable shits.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 15, 2018 18:42:23 GMT
It was crapslinger How do you know that? Did he make the same point a million times in a 3 minute phone call? Bayern would keep ringing back.
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Post by Boothen on Mar 15, 2018 18:42:32 GMT
The manager merry-go-round is fucking retarded. What other industry is there where you can be fired for being an abject failure at your job but then a few weeks later just walk straight into another job that pays you £millions per year for doing the exact same thing that you were recently sacked for being shit at?
I can pretty much guarantee that if I blew millions of the company's cash on shit that didn't work and then accidentally blew the laboratory up through my own incompetence I'd never work in this field again.
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Post by geoff321 on Mar 15, 2018 18:46:45 GMT
The manager merry-go-round is fucking retarded. What other industry is there where you can be fired for being an abject failure at your job but then a few weeks later just walk straight into another job that pays you £millions per year for doing the exact same thing that you were recently sacked for being shit at? I can pretty much guarantee that if I blew millions of the company's cash on shit that didn't work and then accidentally blew the laboratory up through my own incompetence I'd never work in this field again. The truth is though that Hughes has not been an abject failure in any job he has held as a manager.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Mar 15, 2018 18:51:05 GMT
He is not good enough but he is still better than Lambert. As long as he is not going to participate in their new signings, he may keep them in the PL. "his worst decisions with Stoke were the new signings"
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Mar 15, 2018 18:53:50 GMT
He is not good enough but he is still better than Lambert. As long as he is not going to participate in their new signings, he may keep them in the PL. "his worst decisions with Stoke were the new signings" His worst decision was to be given too much money...too much & wasted every sodding penny, hence the 3 player legacy Berahino...Wimmer...Imbula
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Post by cobhamstokey on Mar 15, 2018 18:57:41 GMT
I do think if he was supported at the start of the season with Bauer, Staf and Badou we wouldn’t be in the mess we are in now. The board for me are more responsible. Selling Arni and replacing him with 2 frees one of whom had huge baggage was never going to end well.
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