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Post by BuzzB on Mar 9, 2018 22:54:08 GMT
Being bought back into the team for West Ham tomorrow, that will make it easy for a Southgate cop out in the summer.
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Post by numpty40 on Mar 9, 2018 23:13:51 GMT
He was out of form when he was dropped and could well be out of form on his return. It may actually cement Jack's place in the starting XI. Having said that I'd take Hart as a replacement when Jack does leave.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 9, 2018 23:14:19 GMT
Being bought back into the team for West Ham tomorrow, that will make it easy for a Southgate cop out in the summer. Mind you means West Ham are right back in contention for relegation.
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 9, 2018 23:41:44 GMT
No keeper should feel aggrieved if they aren't the first choice come Russia.
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Post by lordb on Mar 10, 2018 0:20:57 GMT
All of a sudden none of England's keepers look in great shape although Butland played well last week.
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Post by djduncanjames on Mar 10, 2018 1:13:10 GMT
i AGREE nUMPTY, i'D TAKE hART. He'd come good again at City, always thought he'd end up here in the end anyway
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Post by crowey on Mar 10, 2018 7:49:14 GMT
.... I’d take Joe Hart too next season (if he’d come)
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 10, 2018 8:53:02 GMT
He was out of form when he was dropped and could well be out of form on his return. It may actually cement Jack's place in the starting XI. Having said that I'd take Hart as a replacement when Jack does leave. He's been "out of form" for about 3/4 seasons now. He should be in the Championship next season. So there is that I guess.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Mar 10, 2018 9:07:05 GMT
Pickford will be number 1 at the World Cup.. just a feeling.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 10, 2018 9:13:21 GMT
Pickford will be number 1 at the World Cup.. just a feeling. He’s not perfect but no English keeper apart from maybe Burnley’s has had a better season.
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Mar 10, 2018 9:22:03 GMT
Butland will be number 1 come the world cup he has been with Southgate all through his career as a under 23 keeper. I think Southgate knows all there is to know about our Jack & trusts him to do a good job.
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Post by lordb on Mar 10, 2018 9:56:05 GMT
Pickford will be number 1 at the World Cup.. just a feeling. He’s not perfect but no English keeper apart from maybe Burnley’s has had a better season. He's probably a better penalty stopper than any of the others
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Post by alsagerstokie on Mar 10, 2018 10:00:10 GMT
Give me an honest answer on this. If Adrian has conceded 8 in 2 games is Moyes not justified to say right im going to change it.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 10, 2018 10:02:59 GMT
Give me an honest answer on this. If Adrian has conceded 8 in 2 games is Moyes not justified to say right im going to change it. Does it not depend on the extent to which the blame could be placed on Adrian?
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Post by emmbrook1956 on Mar 10, 2018 21:33:05 GMT
Well Hart cocked up today! 😃
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Post by numpty40 on Mar 10, 2018 21:42:57 GMT
Jack will be busy on Monday, chance to stake his claim.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 10, 2018 23:49:59 GMT
At fault for another goal.
You're mad if you want us to sign him.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 11, 2018 0:02:38 GMT
He is cack.
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Post by upthefud on Mar 11, 2018 6:47:26 GMT
Given what was going on around him you can't really blame him yesterday. As soon as your concentration goes for a second as a keeper a mistake is bound to follow
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Post by GeneralFaye on Mar 11, 2018 7:30:17 GMT
Whatever he had, he's lost it. His confidence is obviously on the floor and it looks like it isn't going to come back. We all want Jack playing for England at the World Cup (I think) but it's a bit sad what's happened to Hart. The Bale goal at the Euro's quickly followed by the Iceland debacle and Pep rocking up at Citeh a few weeks later and bombing him out seems to be something he'll never get over.
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Post by nonameface on Mar 11, 2018 8:00:20 GMT
Whatever he had, he's lost it. His confidence is obviously on the floor and it looks like it isn't going to come back. We all want Jack playing for England at the World Cup (I think) but it's a bit sad what's happened to Hart. The Bale goal at the Euro's quickly followed by the Iceland debacle and Pep rocking up at Citeh a few weeks later and bombing him out seems to be something he'll never get over. Even if he were to become available, we should avoid him. As a club we've signed too many players who have been a good player but something has gone wrong more recently and expected to change each and every single one of them. We need to get many more of those heading in the opposite direction, signing top championship players ideally because time after time they deliver.
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 11, 2018 11:03:23 GMT
Whatever he had, he's lost it. His confidence is obviously on the floor and it looks like it isn't going to come back. We all want Jack playing for England at the World Cup (I think) but it's a bit sad what's happened to Hart. The Bale goal at the Euro's quickly followed by the Iceland debacle and Pep rocking up at Citeh a few weeks later and bombing him out seems to be something he'll never get over. It is a shame because by all accounts he’s a good guy who cares deeply about the teams he plays for - arguably too much with England. But he’s gone, he’s been properly terrible for ages. That said he clearly thrives on his confidence and his reputation, and a season in the championship out of the limelight, where he could possibly get back to form and being one of the best in the division might be what’s best for him
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Mar 11, 2018 11:11:26 GMT
You'd have to think Hart has literally thrown it away there.
If I was Southgate, I'd be making my choice now (obviously Jack) and letting him know, whatever happens, you're my number 1.
The goalkeeper is a position where confidence is so so important.
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Post by mrcoke on Mar 11, 2018 11:19:21 GMT
You'd have to think Hart has literally thrown it away there. If I was Southgate, I'd be making my choice now (obviously Jack) and letting him know, whatever happens, you're my number 1. The goalkeeper is a position where confidence is so so important. Banksy once said to Ramsay when departing after an England match "See you, Alf", to which Ramsay replied "Will you?"
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 11, 2018 11:27:24 GMT
Given what was going on around him you can't really blame him yesterday. As soon as your concentration goes for a second as a keeper a mistake is bound to follow He's been doing stuff like for years now. He was pretty much a laughing stock in Italy.
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Post by robstokie on Mar 11, 2018 13:06:49 GMT
I think for the first 2 Burnley goals, he was left exposed and had no chance with either - the 3rd was his balls up, I suppose you could argue that the game was done by that point, but it doesn't inspire any confidence, does it?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 14:55:43 GMT
When Jack goes could we replace him with Hart and sort his problems out as the one area we seem to have good coaches is in the goalkeeping department.
Only if we stay up of course as he wouldn't come to a championship side.
You don't get to be the regular England keeper if you are totally crap so there must be some good to work with.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 11, 2018 15:00:16 GMT
When Jack goes could we replace him with Hart and sort his problems out as the one area we seem to have good coaches is in the goalkeeping department. Only if we stay up of course as he wouldn't come to a championship side. You don't get to be the regular England keeper if you are totally crap so there must be some good to work with. That last sentence goes against everything we know about the English national team set up and the FA.
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Post by djduncanjames on Mar 11, 2018 15:04:57 GMT
My Dad has always moaned about Hart. Thinks he is too panicky
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 15:11:24 GMT
When Jack goes could we replace him with Hart and sort his problems out as the one area we seem to have good coaches is in the goalkeeping department. Only if we stay up of course as he wouldn't come to a championship side. You don't get to be the regular England keeper if you are totally crap so there must be some good to work with. That last sentence goes against everything we know about the English national team set up and the FA. I'm sure I used a few appropriate words.^
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