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Post by sufolkstokie on Feb 24, 2018 23:05:09 GMT
If Lambert was given a few games before then maybe his approach would have seen us in safety in mid table
But his approach right now, as well intentioned as it is looks like relegation
The manager is making some mistakes, especially around subs and playing Choppy, but he is dealing with cards he has.
His approach may well have worked with more time, but it looks precarious to say the least right now
The board sleep walked in to this
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Post by werrington on Feb 24, 2018 23:08:38 GMT
Mate ...like you I travel to 90% of away games and will be at Southampton next Saturday
What I will say is today I’ve seen the shoots of what could be a survival run as we dug in and fought for our premiership future
Cmon Stoke
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Post by nottspotter on Feb 24, 2018 23:09:25 GMT
*too
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Feb 24, 2018 23:09:51 GMT
The board sleep walked in to this Exactly the phrase used by the ‘boys’ on Gillette Soccer Saturday.
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Post by numpty40 on Feb 24, 2018 23:11:01 GMT
His record like for like is no better than Hughes. We may have stayed up under Hughes we may stay up under Lambert, very little or no difference between the two.
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Post by Davef on Feb 24, 2018 23:11:32 GMT
If Lambert was given a few games before then maybe his approach would have seen us in safety in mid table But his approach right now, as well intentioned as it is looks like relegation The manager is making some mistakes, especially around subs and playing Choppy, but he is dealing with cards he has. His approach may well have worked with more time, but it looks precarious to say the least right now The board sleep walked in to this If Charlie Adam had put that penalty away and Jack Butland not made a mess of a simple cross today, Lambert would be sitting on 3 wins from his first 5 games and we'd be pretty well placed on 30 points.
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Post by Gods on Feb 24, 2018 23:14:13 GMT
Too little too late, too few 'o's!
I think his approach would have worked in the sense of just about keeping us up over the course of the season as a whole.
We desperately need some 3 point hauls though.
Where are we now? 1 win in the last 9 including some real easy games.
Neither the Adam penalty last week and Jack's brain slip this week were his fault but they have cost us 3 precious points.
I hope he's not an unlucky manager too because that's when you really know the game is well and truly up.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Feb 24, 2018 23:15:31 GMT
If Lambert was given a few games before then maybe his approach would have seen us in safety in mid table But his approach right now, as well intentioned as it is looks like relegation The manager is making some mistakes, especially around subs and playing Choppy, but he is dealing with cards he has. His approach may well have worked with more time, but it looks precarious to say the least right now The board sleep walked in to this If Charlie Adam had put that penalty away and Jack Butland not made a mess of a simple cross today, Lambert would be sitting on 3 wins from his first 5 games and we'd be pretty well placed on 30 points. Bunch of If's though. They did not arise so I don't get your point
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Post by oatcakesteve on Feb 24, 2018 23:15:51 GMT
If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Feb 24, 2018 23:16:45 GMT
Too little too late, too few 'o's! I think his approach would have worked in the sense of just about keeping us up over the course of the season as a whole. We desperately need some 3 point hauls though. Where are we now? 1 win in the last 9 including some real easy ones. Neither the Adam penalty last week and Jack's brain slip this week were not his fault but they have cost us 3 precious points. I hope he's not an unlucky manager too because that's when you really know the game is well and truly up. Agree to little o's same as our team
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2018 23:16:48 GMT
If Lambert was given a few games before then maybe his approach would have seen us in safety in mid table But his approach right now, as well intentioned as it is looks like relegation The manager is making some mistakes, especially around subs and playing Choppy, but he is dealing with cards he has. His approach may well have worked with more time, but it looks precarious to say the least right now The board sleep walked in to this If Charlie Adam had put that penalty away and Jack Butland not made a mess of a simple cross today, Lambert would be sitting on 3 wins from his first 5 games and we'd be pretty well placed on 30 points. ... and if Charlie had been awarded a penalty from the tackle that came out from the rebound .... Lady luck isn't favouring us at the moment - we are doing well.
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Post by swampySCFC on Feb 24, 2018 23:16:55 GMT
If Lambert was given a few games before then maybe his approach would have seen us in safety in mid table But his approach right now, as well intentioned as it is looks like relegation The manager is making some mistakes, especially around subs and playing Choppy, but he is dealing with cards he has. His approach may well have worked with more time, but it looks precarious to say the least right now The board sleep walked in to this If Charlie Adam had put that penalty away and Jack Butland not made a mess of a simple cross today, Lambert would be sitting on 3 wins from his first 5 games and we'd be pretty well placed on 30 points. Enough to make you weep
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Post by numpty40 on Feb 24, 2018 23:17:27 GMT
If Lambert was given a few games before then maybe his approach would have seen us in safety in mid table But his approach right now, as well intentioned as it is looks like relegation The manager is making some mistakes, especially around subs and playing Choppy, but he is dealing with cards he has. His approach may well have worked with more time, but it looks precarious to say the least right now The board sleep walked in to this If Charlie Adam had put that penalty away and Jack Butland not made a mess of a simple cross today, Lambert would be sitting on 3 wins from his first 5 games and we'd be pretty well placed on 30 points. We were the poorer side in both games though, that's the point. Every other season there have been far worse sides than us, not this season though.
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Post by rawli on Feb 24, 2018 23:25:25 GMT
If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle. Or running for Zimbabwe.
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Post by Davef on Feb 24, 2018 23:28:03 GMT
If Charlie Adam had put that penalty away and Jack Butland not made a mess of a simple cross today, Lambert would be sitting on 3 wins from his first 5 games and we'd be pretty well placed on 30 points. Bunch of If's though. They did not arise so I don't get your point Seriously? We're talking about factual instances here, certainly in the Adam case. If he puts that penalty away, we win the game and get an extra two points, there's no argument about that. If Butland doesn't make a mess of that cross then we remain at 1-0 today and could go on to win the game. Of course, we'll never know how the game would have ended up had Jack fielded that ball, but the way we were playing, you'd have to think we'd have have held on for the threes points. We'd have certainly got an extra two points on the board.
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Post by generationex on Feb 24, 2018 23:29:05 GMT
His record like for like is no better than Hughes. We may have stayed up under Hughes we may stay up under Lambert, very little or no difference between the two. We’re doing the basics again, which we didn’t do under Hughes. Two banks of four and becoming hard to beat is progress. There’s nothing PL can do about the shocking recruitment of fresh blood. It may be too little too late but we’ve got a chance. Under Hughes we were in danger of going totally off the rails.
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Post by mattface on Feb 24, 2018 23:38:17 GMT
His record like for like is no better than Hughes. We may have stayed up under Hughes we may stay up under Lambert, very little or no difference between the two. Under Hughes we would have lost today and last week plain and simple.
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Post by numpty40 on Feb 24, 2018 23:39:42 GMT
His record like for like is no better than Hughes. We may have stayed up under Hughes we may stay up under Lambert, very little or no difference between the two. We’re doing the basics again, which we didn’t do under Hughes. Two banks of four and becoming hard to beat is progress. There’s nothing PL can do about the shocking recruitment of fresh blood. It may be too little too late but we’ve got a chance. Under Hughes we were in danger of going totally off the rails. Hope you're right, Lambert has a good chance of getting more than 3 points from the next three games which would would put him ahead of Hughes in like for like fixtures.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 24, 2018 23:49:07 GMT
His record like for like is no better than Hughes. We may have stayed up under Hughes we may stay up under Lambert, very little or no difference between the two. Under Hughes we would have lost today and last week plain and simple. Hughes is the only premier league stoke manager to have won at Leicester .Right now there is nothing in the stats to suggest we have benefitted from managerial change, just that regardless the benign serving half fixtures are gone .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2018 23:56:03 GMT
If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle. Nope she'd be gender neutral
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Post by Davef on Feb 24, 2018 23:59:17 GMT
Under Hughes we would have lost today and last week plain and simple. Hughes is the only premier league stoke manager to have won at Leicester .Right now there is nothing in the stats to suggest we have benefitted from managerial change, just that regardless the benign serving half fixtures are gone . Just delete your account. Haven't you embarrassed yourself enough today?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 25, 2018 0:01:44 GMT
Hughes is the only premier league stoke manager to have won at Leicester .Right now there is nothing in the stats to suggest we have benefitted from managerial change, just that regardless the benign serving half fixtures are gone . Just delete your account. Haven't you embarrassed yourself enough today? No thanks but as your there name me another premier league manager of stoke city that’s won at Leicester .
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Post by mrcoke on Feb 25, 2018 0:02:21 GMT
IF you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
' Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 25, 2018 0:03:02 GMT
Under Hughes we would have lost today and last week plain and simple. Hughes is the only premier league stoke manager to have won at Leicester .Right now there is nothing in the stats to suggest we have benefitted from managerial change, just that regardless the benign serving half fixtures are gone . Just out of interest Benji, as you refused to reply on the Butland thread. Just how many points did Jack lose us at Palace again?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 25, 2018 0:06:04 GMT
Hughes is the only premier league stoke manager to have won at Leicester .Right now there is nothing in the stats to suggest we have benefitted from managerial change, just that regardless the benign serving half fixtures are gone . Just out of interest Benji, as you refused to reply on the Butland thread. Just how many points did Jack lose us at Palace again? Sorry didn’t see the question presumably your referring to the fact it was when he was out injured my mistake .
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Post by Davef on Feb 25, 2018 0:08:08 GMT
Just delete your account. Haven't you embarrassed yourself enough today? No thanks but as your there name me another premier league manager of stoke city that’s won at Leicester . Name the goalkeeper we played at Crystal Palace this season.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 25, 2018 0:08:58 GMT
Just out of interest Benji, as you refused to reply on the Butland thread. Just how many points did Jack lose us at Palace again? Sorry didn’t see the question presumably your referring to the fact it was when he was out injured my mistake . Yes your mistake. Your mistake that you posted on here as fact. Jack cost us 3 points at Palace. When in fact he didn't even play. Jack cost us 3 points at Bournmouth yada yada yada. Your mistake. Jack made a mistake today. Care to comment?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 25, 2018 0:13:28 GMT
Sorry didn’t see the question presumably your referring to the fact it was when he was out injured my mistake . Yes your mistake. Your mistake that you posted on here as fact. Jack cost us 3 points at Palace. When in fact he didn't even play. Jack cost us 3 points at Bournmouth yada yada yada. Your mistake. Jack made a mistake today. Care to comment? Yea he made a howler at Bournemouth and one today consecutive away games when his mistakes have cost us points , simple and fair observation
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 25, 2018 0:16:58 GMT
Yes your mistake. Your mistake that you posted on here as fact. Jack cost us 3 points at Palace. When in fact he didn't even play. Jack cost us 3 points at Bournmouth yada yada yada. Your mistake. Jack made a mistake today. Care to comment? Yea he made a howler at Bournemouth and one today consecutive away games when his mistakes have cost us points , simple and fair observation But he didn't cost us 3 points in either of those games which is what you said. He didn't even play against Palace and he was possibly at fault for one of the Bournemouth goals but the defenders, or lack of them might also have been at fault. Therefore in those two games he could possibly have cost us 1 point not the 6 you inferred. Care to comment on your grave mistake?
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Post by generationex on Feb 25, 2018 0:18:14 GMT
Sorry didn’t see the question presumably your referring to the fact it was when he was out injured my mistake . Yes your mistake. Your mistake that you posted on here as fact. Jack cost us 3 points at Palace. When in fact he didn't even play. Jack cost us 3 points at Bournmouth yada yada yada. Your mistake. Jack made a mistake today. Care to comment? Oops! As my teenage daughter would say ‘better call the burns unit’.
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