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Post by xnfourt on Feb 4, 2018 10:48:31 GMT
He sums us up...this season..turns up for 5 mins..then just becomes a spectator..Hoping everyone else can do something..Doesn't track back or even take anyone on..Just seem to carry him..Should have kept Walters..
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 4, 2018 11:04:47 GMT
He did track back yesterday and even made a good block but he was spent after 60 mins, would that be Walters whos been injured for most of the season.
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Post by mickmacc on Feb 4, 2018 11:06:17 GMT
He didn’t track back and protect Oieters enough
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Post by anarchicalan on Feb 4, 2018 12:14:01 GMT
He's bone idle, and a bottler. Another one who looked great for 3 games then disappeared up his own arse to count his money.
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Post by thevoid on Feb 4, 2018 12:17:36 GMT
I'm glad we didn't pay a fee for him.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 4, 2018 12:19:35 GMT
Looking at that tackle again just on GOS he’s very fortunate he didn’t receive a red card instead of a yellow
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Post by vahl on Feb 4, 2018 12:23:18 GMT
Just a hunch, but I reckon there is one or two cliques still in that dressing room from the Sparky era and it needs breaking up.
It will probably start with phasing Zouma out.
Choupo is best as a #10, much like Shaqiri. We don't have any out and out wingers and it shows.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2018 12:25:16 GMT
I'd rather him as a 10, or even up-top.
There's a very good player in there.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Feb 4, 2018 12:26:10 GMT
I'd rather him as a 10, or even up-top. There's a very good player in there. Me too. Ramadan left wing. Choupo up top.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2018 12:36:20 GMT
I thought he had a decent game to be honest. He faded as we stopped pushing the wingers close to Crouch in the second half. As did the rest of the team. Nothing to see here, stop picking players out at random.
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Post by theteacher on Feb 4, 2018 12:42:59 GMT
Flatters to deceive for me. Has talent but does not have the inclination to put it in often enough or for long enough.
Get the feeling he is one that when gone (no longer at Stoke) he won’t be missed.
He doesn’t give enough for me (not enough offensively or defensively) and not really a team player.
Obviously just my opinion but carried to often.
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Post by Block 22 on Feb 4, 2018 12:57:33 GMT
Becoming a scapegoat now, on his day he has the ability to win you games from nothing, just needs to find some consistency.
Deserves more credit than he gets, much of the stick he gets is because we paid nothing for him.
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Post by steino72 on Feb 4, 2018 13:19:22 GMT
Just a hunch, but I reckon there is one or two cliques still in that dressing room from the Sparky era and it needs breaking up. It will probably start with phasing Zouma out. Choupo is best as a #10, much like Shaqiri. We don't have any out and out wingers and it shows. I've been thinking the same myself, Moting and Zouma are always pissing about together on social media, the pair of them sum up modern football, lazy, bone idle mercenaries, interested more in shopping trips to Selfridges, I'd send Zouma back, he strikes me as the sort of person who's counting the days down, wank the pair of them.
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Post by stantheman on Feb 4, 2018 13:21:25 GMT
He's a show pony who should have been the 1st sub off yesterday. Another player who has a different supercar for every day of the week and is more bothered about how many twattwrgram followers he has than his own performance
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Post by superheroantonius on Feb 4, 2018 13:31:01 GMT
He can play, He has ability
But we need grafters, so sobhi out wide for me
Up top diouf or choupo. Crouchy for the last twenty minutes.
It goes without saying choupo, my mum, my mums mum etc are all more likely to score than berahino. So definately choupo over berahino Up top all day long
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Post by vahl on Feb 4, 2018 14:33:46 GMT
Just a hunch, but I reckon there is one or two cliques still in that dressing room from the Sparky era and it needs breaking up. It will probably start with phasing Zouma out. Choupo is best as a #10, much like Shaqiri. We don't have any out and out wingers and it shows. I've been thinking the same myself, Moting and Zouma are always pissing about together on social media, the pair of them sum up modern football, lazy, bone idle mercenaries, interested more in shopping trips to Selfridges, I'd send Zouma back, he strikes me as the sort of person who's counting the days down, wank the pair of them. Choupo & Zouma make up part of the Pogba entourage, I know that much. We are talking Yaya Toure levels of entourage here as well. Player power at its finest. You don't have to look very hard to see all the lavish parties and shit. Zouma isn't our player so I couldn't give a shit what he gets up to but I am willing to bet that Choupo-Moting is getting his head turned away from the football club by others. Not to leave or anything like that - just distracted personally. Whilst we are in the situation we are, it only adds to the stresses.
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Post by thehoof on Feb 4, 2018 15:29:44 GMT
Becoming a scapegoat now, on his day he has the ability to win you games from nothing, just needs to find some consistency. Deserves more credit than he gets, much of the stick he gets is because we paid nothing for him. He'd better hurry up and have his day then.A passenger for the last 30 minutes against Watford and yesterday. Doesn't seem any fitter than Charlie to me.
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Post by Block 22 on Feb 4, 2018 15:31:20 GMT
Becoming a scapegoat now, on his day he has the ability to win you games from nothing, just needs to find some consistency. Deserves more credit than he gets, much of the stick he gets is because we paid nothing for him. He'd better hurry up and have his day then.A passenger for the last 30 minutes against Watford and yesterday. Doesn't seem any fitter than Charlie to me. Watched a different game to me mate, he was the only one who had any purpose going forward against Watford for me. If anything was going to happen it was through him.
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Post by thehoof on Feb 4, 2018 15:57:26 GMT
He'd better hurry up and have his day then.A passenger for the last 30 minutes against Watford and yesterday. Doesn't seem any fitter than Charlie to me. Watched a different game to me mate, he was the only one who had any purpose going forward against Watford for me. If anything was going to happen it was through him. Totally agree we watched a different game- but to be fair to your point of view I am not a fan of Moting. I think he's a total fairy and am waiting to witness the"on his day" game. He does his beating of men in an area that is 10 yards inside our half to twenty yards inside the oppositions. Once he actually gets around the box he will usually overrun the ball or give it away. I guess that makes it 26 different games we've watched with regards to ECM.
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Post by stokemark on Feb 4, 2018 16:01:50 GMT
He's no Arnie that's for sure
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2018 16:15:02 GMT
Why should we drop a player involved in 34% of our goals and replace him with someone involved in roughly 1%, appearances notwithstanding?
I don't understand.
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Post by skelman on Feb 4, 2018 16:27:45 GMT
He can play, He has ability But we need grafters, so sobhi out wide for me Up top diouf or choupo. Crouchy for the last twenty minutes. It goes without saying choupo, my mum, my mums mum etc are all more likely to score than berahino. So definately choupo over berahino Up top all day long My sentiments too We have to play 442 Choupo is just being wasted out on the left. He has to play up top with either Berahino or Diouf playing off him Crouch is good coming off the bench but he dictates the style of play far too much when he starts Sobhi needs a proper run with Shaq partnering Allen and Badou with Charlie and Ireland to be in the mix when needed Cameron has always been 'fragile' for me anywhere in our half and offers 0 creativity going forward Then its Zouma, Shawx, Eric and Bauer Can someone pls get Jack's kicking sorted out quickly And can we please return to man for man marking until the end of the season, full stop
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Post by kustokie on Feb 4, 2018 16:33:14 GMT
I thought he ran himself into the ground, for 60 minutes and then was knackered. The lack of fitness is one of the previous manager’s (I refuse to say his name) legacies and may cost us our PL status.
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Post by numpty40 on Feb 4, 2018 16:35:47 GMT
Becoming a scapegoat now, on his day he has the ability to win you games from nothing, just needs to find some consistency. Deserves more credit than he gets, much of the stick he gets is because we paid nothing for him. Is it a Stoke thing that we have to criticise the most talented players in the side? Some of the comments I read about Choupo are identical to the comments I used to read about Arnie when he was at the club. Choiupo is a talented footballer who can change games, yes he's got his flaws that's why players like him and Shaq are playing for Stoke but instead of hammering them try and enjoy their ability while they're at the club.
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Post by wuzza on Feb 4, 2018 16:45:32 GMT
Doesn’t do enough to justify a place and doesn’t score enough goals. I want to win not enjoy an inconsequential bit of skill every other game thanks very much but.
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Feb 4, 2018 16:51:00 GMT
Powderpuff player for a guy of his size.
He's half decent at a few things and great at none - he's the exact kind of player for our level at the minute.
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Post by tqstokie on Feb 4, 2018 17:23:48 GMT
More fight in a cloth cat!
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Feb 4, 2018 17:36:28 GMT
We need a good clear out, and unfortunately Choupo is one of them!!!
He's got great skill ON the ball, but does diddly squat off it!!!
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Post by StatesideStokie on Feb 4, 2018 17:40:12 GMT
He sums us up...this season..turns up for 5 mins..then just becomes a spectator..Hoping everyone else can do something..Doesn't track back or even take anyone on..Just seem to carry him..Should have kept Walters.. Not sure what game you watched yesterday, but I saw him track back plenty, and at one stage made a last ditch tackle in the box that prevented what ooked like a certain goal. Thought he worked his bollocks off yesterday, but faded badly after about an hour or so - and he wasn’t the only one. The whole squad looks severely lacking in fitness.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Feb 4, 2018 17:41:29 GMT
He's a bargain basement winger, no more, no less. The crapper side of average. Inconsistent. Mercenary. A bit of a dickhead. I honestly could not give a fuck about him. I'd rather have Ramadan playing, although I don't really rate him either.
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