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Post by Veritas on May 21, 2018 11:31:56 GMT
Everybody has opinions but no reason to suppose any of them are wiser or more believable than another. There is just as much pro and anti rhetoric about Allardyce, Moyes and the other suspects. With all of them the truth probably lies somewhere in the midst of it all but exactly where, who knows? It's healthy forum fun but I wouldn't hang my hat on any opinion, even my own. Built a great burton team on a small budget, got them playing great football. Didn’t see much of how Derby played but you would like to think we would have better players/ resources etc ... I too have seen very little of Derby under Rowett but notice they scored 70 goals last season the fourth highest total in the division, we managed 35!!
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Post by withingtonstokie on May 21, 2018 11:32:14 GMT
Not read anything else on this but surely if he's had a new contract at Derby, we'd have to pay a shedload of money to get him out of it? After his Derby failure at the end of last season, I don't see why we would when there are managers out of work available. Well if he hadn’t failed at Derby then he wouldn’t be looking to take a step down a league. There needs to be some realism as to who we can attract now and he seems to tick a lot of boxes...unless Pep says he fancies a new challenge ;-) To be fair he made a pretty good effort with a limited budget/squad so using the term failed is a little harsh...with more money and a few(?) decent players at the club already he could be a success and he certainly knows the league as well as being young and ambitious.
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Post by cousindupree on May 21, 2018 11:37:29 GMT
Well if he hadn’t failed at Derby then he wouldn’t be looking to take a step down a league. There needs to be some realism as to who we can attract now and he seems to tick a lot of boxes...unless Pep says he fancies a new challenge ;-) To be fair he made a pretty good effort with a limited budget/squad so using the term failed is a little harsh...with more money and a few(?) decent players at the club already he could be a success and he certainly knows the league as well as being young and ambitious. It's a slight concern is he finished 15 pts away from promo. It seems it was mainly due to drawing too many games. Not sure if those were draws from winning positions or not. Without a Vydra in the side it may be deja vu for him again
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Post by Stretfordpotterer on May 21, 2018 12:07:07 GMT
To be fair he made a pretty good effort with a limited budget/squad so using the term failed is a little harsh...with more money and a few(?) decent players at the club already he could be a success and he certainly knows the league as well as being young and ambitious. It's a slight concern is he finished 15 pts away from promo. It seems it was mainly due to drawing too many games. Not sure if those were draws from winning positions or not. Without a Vydra in the side it may be deja vu for him again The automatically promoted teams totals were fairly high though. But it has been quite high for a few years i suppose. Prior to 2014 it tended to be a bit lower, i suppose a few basket cases have fallen through with very low points totals the last few years. W 20 D 15 L 11 F 70 A 45 PTS 75 To put that into context Stoke were promoted automatically with W 21 D 16 L 9 F 69 A 55 PTS 79 Admittedly in a tight, low point scoring season. As for "without a Vydra in the side", you could argue he takes the credit for his re-emergence, Vydra hasn't had a 20 goal season since 12-13. He scored 5 last year, 3 for Readng the year before that. Taking only a single point off Sunderland over two games and then losing to Burton in the run in must be a regret. Obviously every club has a number of games where they think what might have been but they really should have been taking maximum points out of the worst team in the league. Add those 5 points off and you're looking at a really solid 80 point season. He's not had loads to spend in the transfer market, although looking at there squad i can see why they might have concerns about the wage bill. Looks an old squad to so potentially a lack of legs cost them at the tail end of the season. Rowett is young enough to still be learning from those things though.
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Post by flinteastwood on May 21, 2018 12:08:04 GMT
Sign him up Coates. I'll be more than happy with Rowett leading the team, good ambitious young manager who will be able to build his own team.
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Post by donaldingleton on May 21, 2018 12:09:36 GMT
Would we want him to bring Vydra with him? Anyone else - Cameron Jerome perhaps? d.
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Post by 36dd on May 21, 2018 12:13:19 GMT
Would we want him to bring Vydra with him? Anyone else - Cameron Jerome perhaps? d. Rory Delap on the coaching staff!!!
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Post by lowlands on May 21, 2018 12:16:51 GMT
If we get Rowett as manager will he raid Derby and bring back to Stoke Cameron Jerome? He must of thought highly of him as he was one of his main forwards at Derby. If Cameron did come back would he get a good reception from us fans?
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Post by rawli on May 21, 2018 12:17:08 GMT
For what it’s worth I think all this talk of Rowett is a smokescreen whilst they chase the candidates they really want Here's hoping I get the impression he's Pulis Junior 😬 Li'l Ant?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 21, 2018 12:19:52 GMT
So long as they didn't burst into Unchained Melody, yeah, probably.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2018 12:22:23 GMT
Still remember his fantastic goal in front of the boothen. I think v Southampton
Got to admit he missed quite a few during his time tho
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Post by Stretfordpotterer on May 21, 2018 12:23:34 GMT
If we get Rowett as manager will he raid Derby and bring back to Stoke Cameron Jerome? He must of thought highly of him as he was one of his main forwards at Derby. If Cameron did come back would he get a good reception from us fans? Stretching it to say he was one of his main forwards, he signed in Jan, started 8 games, came on as sub in ten. He'll be 4th in the pecking order at best.
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Post by andystokey on May 21, 2018 12:27:00 GMT
Only because he needs pace to counter attack. I'd hope we can attract better with more funds.
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Post by ursemboys on May 21, 2018 12:29:02 GMT
dont be silly
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Post by eddyclamp on May 21, 2018 12:29:56 GMT
Please god no
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Post by stokecity4life on May 21, 2018 12:31:00 GMT
Oh for gods sake Let`s get a time machine and go back......
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Post by lordb on May 21, 2018 12:32:37 GMT
Not good enough(Jerome) for the Premier League but has had a good record in the Championship if a bit streaky.
If he was signed as well as a much better and younger goalscorer wouldn't be a disaster.
Be disappointed if he was first choice.
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Post by darksideofthemoon on May 21, 2018 12:32:56 GMT
Bookmakers' Odds ranging from 1/4 to 1/8 now
Odds have shortened slowly but consistently over a day or so
I don't mind him, actually
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Post by shangamuzo on May 21, 2018 12:35:59 GMT
Rowett wouldn't cut it with Stoke. Another clanger in the making.
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Post by petershiltonsmini on May 21, 2018 12:39:45 GMT
We have definitely made an approach for him
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Post by ursemboys on May 21, 2018 12:40:04 GMT
Bit premature but would like to say
Gary Rowett's Barmy Army
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Post by mrred on May 21, 2018 12:40:59 GMT
A bit? I don't think the fucking egg's been fertilized yet.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on May 21, 2018 12:44:28 GMT
I'm really trying to see the positives here but why didn't we just keep Lambert if we are just goping to replace him with a similar manager with six months less knowledge about the pile of shite he is walking into in terms of players who need clearing out . Makes no sense at all at the minute . All this why didn’t we keep Lambert stuff is absolute nonsense. It is if you are going to replace him with a better manager I agree. Looking back he was a panic appointment that didnt work , so if they had got a Moyes or Allardyce or a good continental option lined up I would understand getting rid of him . However if Rowett is coming in we have a bloke with less experience a weaker track record , no experience of dealing with some of the arseholes in our dressing room that Lambert was ridding out who by all accounts has the same limited attacking tactical approach as Lambert. I just want to see some sense in it in addition we will have paid off Lambert and will be reducing our war chest to bolster Derby's in compensation where we could have had Big Mick for nothing who has a similar style but at least has won promotion and has managed at a much higher level
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on May 21, 2018 12:56:27 GMT
Rowett wouldn't cut it with Stoke. Another clanger in the making. Could be a clanger as i am not convinced he is good enough but will back him all the same. I just hope we are not looking for another manager come the end of next season if things have not gone to plan.
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Post by GrahamHyde on May 21, 2018 13:04:42 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 21, 2018 13:22:37 GMT
Good manager and a great opportunity for him to prove it and push on from the level he's been at.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2018 13:34:17 GMT
I’m not over excited at the thought of Rowett but I’d take him over McCarthy any day.
Whoever gets appointed I’ll get behind them and give them a chance.
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Post by 36dd on May 21, 2018 13:37:34 GMT
Moyes has turned us down (alleged), big Sam would want an hefty wage and his last two positions have ended in disaster!
A week ago most supporters wanted Lambert to be given an chance, now some are moaning because we could possibly sign an English young manager with a point to prove who will be backed by the board.
If Rowett gets appointment then I will certainly be interested on how he takes the club forward, I most definitely have him over Paul Lambert any day of the week!!!
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2018 13:42:13 GMT
Moyes has turned us down (alleged), big Sam would want an hefty wage and his last two positions have ended in disaster! A week ago most supporters wanted Lambert to be given an chance, now some are moaning because we could possibly sign an English young manager with a point to prove who will be backed by the board. If Rowett gets appointment then I will certainly be interested on how he takes the club forward, I most definitely have him over Paul Lambert any day of the week!!! Really?
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Post by Will_75 on May 21, 2018 13:48:50 GMT
Rowett wouldn't cut it with Stoke. Another clanger in the making. on what grounds do you say this? I work with Blues fans who practically well up at the very mention of his name\
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