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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 22:21:34 GMT
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Post by thegift on Jan 3, 2018 22:26:54 GMT
Still better than Hughes.
Were going fucking DOWN under mark hughes, it doesn't get any worse.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jan 3, 2018 22:43:23 GMT
Not that I know anything, but I can't see the Coates family going for Giggs at all. If we change manager it's going to be someone like Rowett or Dyche if he'd come here - maybe Martin O'Neill and/or Roy Keane, or a lower league manager - which I'd prefer to see - a risk on Potter or someone plying their trade successfully at a lower level. That would be less of a risk than Giggs, surely.
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Post by pottermouth on Jan 3, 2018 22:46:25 GMT
Not that I know anything, but I can't see the Coates family going for Giggs at all. If we change manager it's going to be someone like Rowett or Dyche if he'd come here - maybe Martin O'Neill and/or Roy Keane, or a lower league manager - which I'd prefer to see - a risk on Potter or someone plying their trade successfully at a lower level. That would be less of a risk than Giggs, surely. Why would we go for Giggs? He’s got no experience of management. Likewise Rowett has no Premier League experience. The fact Hughes is still in post is testament to the quality of candidates available.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jan 3, 2018 23:05:34 GMT
Not that I know anything, but I can't see the Coates family going for Giggs at all. If we change manager it's going to be someone like Rowett or Dyche if he'd come here - maybe Martin O'Neill and/or Roy Keane, or a lower league manager - which I'd prefer to see - a risk on Potter or someone plying their trade successfully at a lower level. That would be less of a risk than Giggs, surely. Why would we go for Giggs? He’s got no experience of management. Likewise Rowett has no Premier League experience. The fact Hughes is still in post is testament to the quality of candidates available. That's exactly what I'm saying - I can't see us going for Giggs at all. A manager needs to get Premier League experience somehow, and Rowett looks much less of a risk than Giggs. Hughes is still in the post because we have a board who don't over-listen to the media or fans (of course they do to an extent), who don't panic - they obviously see what we as outsiders can't. If Hughes has given a convincing argument that he can sort this out by the end of January, three 9th place finishes give him the credit to do so. Maybe he's admitted to mistakes he never would publicly? Maybe he didn't have much to do with our big money signings? We don't know, but those at the top do. You have to admit Hughes has been unlucky with injuries, signings, decisions etc. So have other clubs, and they've been relegated - it's part of football. We shouldn't be relegation candidates, but we are. Maybe we could do worse than get back the "everything's against us mentality".
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 23:10:39 GMT
Not that I know anything, but I can't see the Coates family going for Giggs at all. If we change manager it's going to be someone like Rowett or Dyche if he'd come here - maybe Martin O'Neill and/or Roy Keane, or a lower league manager - which I'd prefer to see - a risk on Potter or someone plying their trade successfully at a lower level. That would be less of a risk than Giggs, surely. Why would we go for Giggs? He’s got no experience of management. Likewise Rowett has no Premier League experience. The fact Hughes is still in post is testament to the quality of candidates available. You can't rule Rowett out because he has no premier league experience, that's just daft. I have no doubt he will be someone the board will consider. Is he a risk? yes but so many managers appointed are risks and so many have paid off
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Post by withingtonstokie on Jan 3, 2018 23:15:23 GMT
Why would we go for Giggs? He’s got no experience of management. Likewise Rowett has no Premier League experience. The fact Hughes is still in post is testament to the quality of candidates available. That's exactly what I'm saying - I can't see us going for Giggs at all. A manager needs to get Premier League experience somehow, and Rowett looks much less of a risk than Giggs. Hughes is still in the post because we have a board who don't over-listen to the media or fans (of course they do to an extent), who don't panic - they obviously see what we as outsiders can't. If Hughes has given a convincing argument that he can sort this out by the end of January, three 9th place finishes give him the credit to do so. Maybe he's admitted to mistakes he never would publicly? Maybe he didn't have much to do with our big money signings? We don't know, but those at the top do. You have to admit Hughes has been unlucky with injuries, signings, decisions etc. So have other clubs, and they've been relegated - it's part of football. We shouldn't be relegation candidates, but we are. Maybe we could do worse than get back the "everything's against us mentality". Good post - the Coates family are big fans as well as businessmen and won’t panic but are at the same time, imo, they are also realists. None of us know what’s really going on behind the scenes but they certainly won’t be doing nothing. It is a sad state that we can’t attract a good/proven manager but I really can’t see them going for Giggs. Great player but a great manager, I personally have big doubts and I definitely don’t want us to be his/our failed experiment! The disappointing thing out of this impasse could be our inability to sign any desperately needed new players and hopefully something will happen soon, either in the management department, quality new signings or both.
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Post by rawli on Jan 3, 2018 23:18:34 GMT
Not that I know anything, but I can't see the Coates family going for Giggs at all. If we change manager it's going to be someone like Rowett or Dyche if he'd come here - maybe Martin O'Neill and/or Roy Keane, or a lower league manager - which I'd prefer to see - a risk on Potter or someone plying their trade successfully at a lower level. That would be less of a risk than Giggs, surely. Why would we go for Giggs? He’s got no experience of management. Likewise Rowett has no Premier League experience. The fact Hughes is still in post is testament to the quality of candidates available. All managers had no premier league experience at some point.
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Post by withingtonstokie on Jan 3, 2018 23:22:08 GMT
Why would we go for Giggs? He’s got no experience of management. Likewise Rowett has no Premier League experience. The fact Hughes is still in post is testament to the quality of candidates available. All managers had no premier league experience at some point. Rowett is far less of a risk than Giggs. I’d be very surprised and worried if we went for Giggs.
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Post by estp1863 on Jan 3, 2018 23:23:13 GMT
Can we call him Churchill (The nodding dog) 😆
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 3, 2018 23:25:34 GMT
May as well give Wilko a go.
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Post by sportsman on Jan 3, 2018 23:27:35 GMT
I'd be scared if it was on his own, but if it was I'm sure it would be with an experienced no 2 until at least the summer. Would certainly help attract the players we need to get out of this, plus he'd fit into the long term role we like to promote.
I think Coates would go for experience, but as long as he had that alongside him I could see it as a possibility.
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Post by estp1863 on Jan 3, 2018 23:29:15 GMT
May a swell give Wilko a go. I'm surprised we are not promoting within if we have someone else other than the manager identifying transfer targets. If we intend to keep this policy we should maybe start hiring high quality u23's managers with the view to them making the step up instead of trying to sell a transfer policy to a manager that no one in the right mind would accept to work with
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Post by heworksardtho on Jan 3, 2018 23:34:21 GMT
Running down the wing Feared by the blues loved by the reds Ryan Giggs Ryan Giggs
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 23:38:06 GMT
Giggs? Heaven help us!
Oh shit, he's Welsh!
Done deal I reckon.
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Post by pottermouth on Jan 3, 2018 23:39:14 GMT
Why would we go for Giggs? He’s got no experience of management. Likewise Rowett has no Premier League experience. The fact Hughes is still in post is testament to the quality of candidates available. You can't rule Rowett out because he has no premier league experience, that's just daft. I have no doubt he will be someone the board will consider. Is he a risk? yes but so many managers appointed are risks and so many have paid off It’s not daft to rule out Rowett. We need proven experience at this level imho. As suggested in other posts, we don’t know what’s happening behind the scenes but doing nothing isn’t an option.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jan 3, 2018 23:55:27 GMT
He should fuck off and learn how to manage in the lower leagues.
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Post by Gods on Jan 4, 2018 0:38:01 GMT
I don't see us recklessly betting the shop on a man who has only ever managed Salford Reds and the Vietnamese junior team.
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Post by chinesedave on Jan 4, 2018 3:31:26 GMT
Never employee a cockroach who shags his brother's bird.
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Post by duckling on Jan 4, 2018 4:31:55 GMT
It's pretty clear that Giggs views any job below the Premier League as beneath him despite having no managerial experience. I suspect it goes further though, that Stoke would be beneath him even though it's been a Premier League club for a decade now.
You don't want a manager that thinks they're too good for you.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 4:54:44 GMT
I would love Fuller or another ex Stoke player to manage us but it's a massive gamble
They would have more knowledge of the Premier League than a foreign guy
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Post by arnie3010 on Jan 4, 2018 5:15:05 GMT
I would love Fuller or another ex Stoke player to manage us but it's a massive gamble They would have more knowledge of the Premier League than a foreign guy Delap
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Jan 4, 2018 5:57:47 GMT
Ryan Giggs?
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Post by djduncanjames on Jan 4, 2018 6:05:00 GMT
It's pretty clear that Giggs views any job below the Premier League as beneath him despite having no managerial experience. I suspect it goes further though, that Stoke would be beneath him even though it's been a Premier League club for a decade now. You don't want a manager that thinks they're too good for you. Seems most the "new" players we have think that way #the dossier #front of house #Maurice Edu
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Post by shangamuzo on Jan 4, 2018 6:25:38 GMT
If Giggs gets the gig I'll swim forest park lake bollock naked at midnight. He's a poor favourite in a field of doubtful contenders.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 6:25:48 GMT
We should steer well clear of Giggs IMO.
In his very brief period in charge at Manure, or even as assistant to LVG, he looked completely devoid of ideas, character, charisma, any ability to inspire his team, or any tactical nous. His one positive attribute would be that he would undoubtedly have good contacts and would therefore most probably be able to bring in good players although whether the club would be willing to fund them is another question altogether.
As has been said if we were considering Giggs then a vastly experienced No. 2 / mentor would be an absolute necessity.
In the serious predicament that we now find ourselves we need someone with all those traits together with a good deal of experience to know what to do, and how and when to do it.
Despite the Board's alleged comments about the lack of viable alternatives I feel we could do far better than Ryan Giggs.
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Post by hanibal7 on Jan 4, 2018 6:53:21 GMT
Steve Bould ????
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 4, 2018 7:00:58 GMT
As if Coates would employ a rookie manager for a survival fight.
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Post by takeshikovacs on Jan 4, 2018 7:02:31 GMT
Ryan Giggs? Just noticed The Wimmer Man on the team sheet again?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 7:33:15 GMT
Hasn’t he also been favourite for the Wales, Swansea and Leicester vacancies in the recent past? Can’t see anything in this whatsoever.
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