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Post by crapslinger on Dec 15, 2017 12:46:09 GMT
Follow the players lead like ? Absolutely. Fuck Stoke City and everyone involved with the club. The players are desperate to be relegated. They don't look desperate to do anything.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 15, 2017 12:52:56 GMT
I'm not wittering on about anything but if you'd bet the entire contents of your bank account that Hughes is clear, in no uncertain terms, that the Chairman is not happy with how things are going, then you are mistken in taking Coates' comments at face value aren't you? If you take his Coates comments at face value, then you accept that Hughes is under no pressure whatsoever, the Chairman doesn't know what all the fuss is about, and regardless of the results of the next two games, Hughes will be here well into the New Year and seemingly, because you'd bet the entire contents of your bank account that this isn't the case, you wouldn't take his comments at face value. AS for others, clearly they would do no such thing, hence the hysteria here about Coates being a head in the sand, complacent, deluded, senile, arrogant, old fool. Why would I think that your comments, about comments made by Peter Coates, would have something to do with your opinion on HUGHES? I'd have to be pretty thick to take that from your comments wouldn't I. Someone says something about Peter Coates and I understand it to be a reflection of their beliefs about Mark Hughes! Seriously? Absolute bollocks Dave. Coates could easily be unhappy with the situation but that doesn't then necessarily mean that he's about to sack him. As I said, I'm leaning towards taking his comments at face value and if we lose on Saturday then I think there's every likelihood that Hughes will still keep his job. And as for offering an opinion ... I didn't offer one on Coates in my post, so what else am I supposed to think you're mumbling on about? You can think whatever you like but in saying that you are taking Coates views at face value, I'm making an assumption about your feelings towards how Coates may be reacting to the current situation. By taking his comments at face value, you are suggesting to those reading your comments that you are accepting at face value that "he doesn't see what the fuss is about" and that "the next two games are no more important than the two that came before them". I would interpret Coates comments as those of a responsible chairman, trying to take the pressure of the manager and the players ahead of a very important game. Futures are on the line and when that is the case, people tend not to react/behave/play with the freedom required to be successful. I would take Coates comments as an attempt to give the manager and players a freedom to perform and a confidence that he has every faith in them...even if he doesn't. I never mentioned Hughes. You just saw what you wanted to see in the original comment. My original comment is based on the way in which the comments of Coates and Hughes are interpreted. Seemingly everyone on this thread, yourself included, are taking Coates comments here at face value and coming to the conclusion that he's a deluded old fool in the process, incapable of seeing what is in front of his very eyes. Hughes has lost the plot, the team is wank, he needs to be sacked now yet this bumbling old fool can't see it. However, Hughes comments in the press conference yesterday are seemingly not taken at face value by those that commented on that particular thread. He's a lying toad, trying to cover and hide his own inadequacies because he's a shit manager who has lost the plot. Given recent comments, I'd take the polar opposite view to many on here and I wouldn't take Coates comments at face value at all, whereas those made by Hughes yesterday, I would. Hughes comments about events at least had a semblance of truth about them. Coates don't. Funny that, don't you think? It certainly cracks me up.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 15, 2017 13:04:48 GMT
Absolute bollocks Dave. Coates could easily be unhappy with the situation but that doesn't then necessarily mean that he's about to sack him. As I said, I'm leaning towards taking his comments at face value and if we lose on Saturday then I think there's every likelihood that Hughes will still keep his job. And as for offering an opinion ... I didn't offer one on Coates in my post, so what else am I supposed to think you're mumbling on about? You can think whatever you like but in saying that you are taking Coates views at face value, I'm making an assumption about your feelings towards how Coates may be reacting to the current situation. By taking his comments at face value, you are suggesting to those reading your comments that you are accepting at face value that "he doesn't see what the fuss is about" and that "the next two games are no more important than the two that came before them". I would interpret Coates comments as those of a responsible chairman, trying to take the pressure of the manager and the players ahead of a very important game. Futures are on the line and when that is the case, people tend not to react/behave/play with the freedom required to be successful. I would take Coates comments as an attempt to give the manager and players a freedom to perform and a confidence that he has every faith in them...even if he doesn't. I never mentioned Hughes. You just saw what you wanted to see in the original comment. My original comment is based on the way in which the comments of Coates and Hughes are interpreted. Seemingly everyone on this thread, yourself included, are taking Coates comments here at face value and coming to the conclusion that he's a deluded old fool in the process, incapable of seeing what is in front of his very eyes. Hughes has lost the plot, the team is wank, he needs to be sacked now yet this bumbling old fool can't see it. However, Hughes comments in the press conference yesterday are seemingly not taken at face value by those that commented on that particular thread. He's a lying toad, trying to cover and hide his own inadequacies because he's a shit manager who has lost the plot. Given recent comments, I'd take the polar opposite view to many on here and I wouldn't take Coates comments at face value at all, whereas those made by Hughes yesterday, I would. Hughes comments about events at least had a semblance of truth about them. Coates don't. Funny that, don't you think? It certainly cracks me up. Ah right ... you're posting replies based on what you ASSUME somebody thinks, rather than on what they've actually written ... Jesus Christ is it any wonder that it's hard to understand what you're muttering on about? It was an OBSERVATION Dave, nothing more. No doubt you'll come back and tell me that I don't know what I think next or that I'm a liar or somet. 😪 As for my opinion on Coates ... if we lose against West Brom, i think he could easily change his opinion and Hughes coukd be out of a job the following week. I don't now (having heard what Coates has said) think he'll be sacked on Saturday unless we get a massive hammering or there is open revolt in the stands.
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Post by tuum on Dec 15, 2017 13:20:06 GMT
I think he's just trying to bat off a bit of what he will see as noise and hysteria, whilst publicly backing his under fire manager. I'm guessing he is looking at this weekend and trying everything to calm things down in order to help get a positive result. As supporters we'll see things the opposite way and there is no problem with that. It's a passionate sport. Fans, regardless of those amongst us that try and say they are calm, will always lose it a bit when teams go through elongated rough patches. It's natural. What goes on behind closed doors will be very different I think. If we lose on Saturday I dare say we will be looking for a new manager, regardless of what he has said here. Agree with nearly all of that except the last sentence. I think Hughes will have until 2 Jan at least and probably until the end of the season. Bringing in a new manager now is fraught with difficulty. I am of the opinion that Mark Hughes is our best option at the moment as long as the players are still with him. As soon as they down tools then he is toast. There are small signs of wilful slackness from some individuals but nothing that a couple of wins won't change. One thing we do not want is a negative, knicker-wetting mindset on Saturday. People need to rein in their emotions and try and get behind the team...if we start booing players 30mins into the game then we are ****ed! I am confident that Coates will make the right decision...and that decision may be to keep Hughes until the end of the season. However, unless we get another 35 points between now and the end of the season I do not expect Hughes to be in charge in August 2018.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Dec 15, 2017 13:21:53 GMT
You can think whatever you like but in saying that you are taking Coates views at face value, I'm making an assumption about your feelings towards how Coates may be reacting to the current situation. By taking his comments at face value, you are suggesting to those reading your comments that you are accepting at face value that "he doesn't see what the fuss is about" and that "the next two games are no more important than the two that came before them". I would interpret Coates comments as those of a responsible chairman, trying to take the pressure of the manager and the players ahead of a very important game. Futures are on the line and when that is the case, people tend not to react/behave/play with the freedom required to be successful. I would take Coates comments as an attempt to give the manager and players a freedom to perform and a confidence that he has every faith in them...even if he doesn't. I never mentioned Hughes. You just saw what you wanted to see in the original comment. My original comment is based on the way in which the comments of Coates and Hughes are interpreted. Seemingly everyone on this thread, yourself included, are taking Coates comments here at face value and coming to the conclusion that he's a deluded old fool in the process, incapable of seeing what is in front of his very eyes. Hughes has lost the plot, the team is wank, he needs to be sacked now yet this bumbling old fool can't see it. However, Hughes comments in the press conference yesterday are seemingly not taken at face value by those that commented on that particular thread. He's a lying toad, trying to cover and hide his own inadequacies because he's a shit manager who has lost the plot. Given recent comments, I'd take the polar opposite view to many on here and I wouldn't take Coates comments at face value at all, whereas those made by Hughes yesterday, I would. Hughes comments about events at least had a semblance of truth about them. Coates don't. Funny that, don't you think? It certainly cracks me up. Ah right ... you're posting replies based on what you ASSUME somebody thinks, rather than on what they've actually written ... Jesus Christ is it any wonder that it's hard to understand what you're muttering on about? It was an OBSERVATION Dave, nothing more. No doubt you'll come back and tell me that I don't know what I think next or that I'm a liar or somet. 😪 As for my opinion on Coates ... if we lose against West Brom, i think he could easily change his opinion and Hughes coukd be out of a job the following week. I don't now (having heard what Coates has said) think he'll be sacked on Saturday unless we get a massive hammering or there is open revolt in the stands. Whatever he is thinking, it is clear and history shows he is very slow to act. There was mass open revolt at the end of last season and it mattered not a jot.
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Post by serpico on Dec 15, 2017 13:23:44 GMT
To be fair a couple of wins can propel us up the league and into the top half, it's not as if we're cut adrift at the bottom of the table, i was as pissed off as anyone in the immediate aftermath of the burnley game but there probably has been a bit of an overreaction on some supporters part. It perhaps isn't time to break the glass and push the alarm just yet.
Back'em till you sack em.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 15, 2017 13:38:09 GMT
You can think whatever you like but in saying that you are taking Coates views at face value, I'm making an assumption about your feelings towards how Coates may be reacting to the current situation. By taking his comments at face value, you are suggesting to those reading your comments that you are accepting at face value that "he doesn't see what the fuss is about" and that "the next two games are no more important than the two that came before them". I would interpret Coates comments as those of a responsible chairman, trying to take the pressure of the manager and the players ahead of a very important game. Futures are on the line and when that is the case, people tend not to react/behave/play with the freedom required to be successful. I would take Coates comments as an attempt to give the manager and players a freedom to perform and a confidence that he has every faith in them...even if he doesn't. I never mentioned Hughes. You just saw what you wanted to see in the original comment. My original comment is based on the way in which the comments of Coates and Hughes are interpreted. Seemingly everyone on this thread, yourself included, are taking Coates comments here at face value and coming to the conclusion that he's a deluded old fool in the process, incapable of seeing what is in front of his very eyes. Hughes has lost the plot, the team is wank, he needs to be sacked now yet this bumbling old fool can't see it. However, Hughes comments in the press conference yesterday are seemingly not taken at face value by those that commented on that particular thread. He's a lying toad, trying to cover and hide his own inadequacies because he's a shit manager who has lost the plot. Given recent comments, I'd take the polar opposite view to many on here and I wouldn't take Coates comments at face value at all, whereas those made by Hughes yesterday, I would. Hughes comments about events at least had a semblance of truth about them. Coates don't. Funny that, don't you think? It certainly cracks me up. Ah right ... you're posting replies based on what you ASSUME somebody thinks, rather than on what they've actually written ... Jesus Christ is it any wonder that it's hard to understand what you're muttering on about? It was an OBSERVATION Dave, nothing more. No doubt you'll come back and tell me that I don't know what I think next or that I'm a liar or somet. 😪 As for my opinion on Coates ... if we lose against West Brom, i think he could easily change his opinion and Hughes coukd be out of a job the following week. I don't now (having heard what Coates has said) think he'll be sacked on Saturday unless we get a massive hammering or there is open revolt in the stands. You made an assumption i was referring to you and your views on mark hughes didnt you? I couldn't really give a rats ass if you are a liar who doesnt know his own mind or not. I just want to know if you are taking his comments at face value or not. You don't seem to be able to make your mind up
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 15, 2017 13:45:19 GMT
Coates out?
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Post by scfcwebby on Dec 15, 2017 13:53:09 GMT
You can think whatever you like but in saying that you are taking Coates views at face value, I'm making an assumption about your feelings towards how Coates may be reacting to the current situation. By taking his comments at face value, you are suggesting to those reading your comments that you are accepting at face value that "he doesn't see what the fuss is about" and that "the next two games are no more important than the two that came before them". I would interpret Coates comments as those of a responsible chairman, trying to take the pressure of the manager and the players ahead of a very important game. Futures are on the line and when that is the case, people tend not to react/behave/play with the freedom required to be successful. I would take Coates comments as an attempt to give the manager and players a freedom to perform and a confidence that he has every faith in them...even if he doesn't. I never mentioned Hughes. You just saw what you wanted to see in the original comment. My original comment is based on the way in which the comments of Coates and Hughes are interpreted. Seemingly everyone on this thread, yourself included, are taking Coates comments here at face value and coming to the conclusion that he's a deluded old fool in the process, incapable of seeing what is in front of his very eyes. Hughes has lost the plot, the team is wank, he needs to be sacked now yet this bumbling old fool can't see it. However, Hughes comments in the press conference yesterday are seemingly not taken at face value by those that commented on that particular thread. He's a lying toad, trying to cover and hide his own inadequacies because he's a shit manager who has lost the plot. Given recent comments, I'd take the polar opposite view to many on here and I wouldn't take Coates comments at face value at all, whereas those made by Hughes yesterday, I would. Hughes comments about events at least had a semblance of truth about them. Coates don't. Funny that, don't you think? It certainly cracks me up. Ah right ... you're posting replies based on what you ASSUME somebody thinks, rather than on what they've actually written ... Jesus Christ is it any wonder that it's hard to understand what you're muttering on about? It was an OBSERVATION Dave, nothing more. No doubt you'll come back and tell me that I don't know what I think next or that I'm a liar or somet. 😪 As for my opinion on Coates ... if we lose against West Brom, i think he could easily change his opinion and Hughes coukd be out of a job the following week. I don't now (having heard what Coates has said) think he'll be sacked on Saturday unless we get a massive hammering or there is open revolt in the stands. Revolt it is then The problem is, now that clubs get so much money from TV just got bring in the league, in think fan power is getting less and less! How much do (all) clubs really care about / want to listen to the fans anymore?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 15, 2017 13:54:53 GMT
Ah right ... you're posting replies based on what you ASSUME somebody thinks, rather than on what they've actually written ... Jesus Christ is it any wonder that it's hard to understand what you're muttering on about? It was an OBSERVATION Dave, nothing more. No doubt you'll come back and tell me that I don't know what I think next or that I'm a liar or somet. 😪 As for my opinion on Coates ... if we lose against West Brom, i think he could easily change his opinion and Hughes coukd be out of a job the following week. I don't now (having heard what Coates has said) think he'll be sacked on Saturday unless we get a massive hammering or there is open revolt in the stands. You made an assumption i was referring to you and your views on mark hughes didnt you? I couldn't really give a rats ass if you are a liar who doesnt know his own mind or not. I just want to know if you are taking his comments at face value or not. You don't seem to be able to make your mind up Of course I'm taking his comments at face value, I've already said that several times. You're just becoming tedious now Dave, I won't be replying to you on this thread again, for what it's worth.
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Post by liamo on Dec 15, 2017 13:56:40 GMT
The problem with Pete is he's somehow not worried by the trend, in isolation i'd agree with him, if this was our first slow start, our first really bad run of bad performances i'd say ride the storm and things will come good
It's not in isolation though is it? It's been 2 long years of downturn, we're now right back where we started before Hughes, i'm in genuine disbelief at the lack of urgency shown by the club, we don't get special happy points at the end of the season when Hughes and Co cash in their "should've won that" games
You can be fun and exciting and deserve to win games all season, if you don't get points on the board you go down
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Post by estp1863 on Dec 15, 2017 14:00:26 GMT
Comical Coates in full on denial shocker !, this has happened before under his chairmanship that ended well not. I still find it hard to believe that a man & family so wealthy & supposedly big supporters that have all the tools to just cut the Hughes cord and get a good replacement in can just sit back and watch all their hard work of the past ten years go to waste. It really is mental & difficult to understand the reasoning behind it. They could of got Allardyce in on top managerial wages on a 5 year deal, chucked him £100million this coming summer and it would still be their equivalent of me chucking ten sodding quid away on their betting site. It defies all logic & understanding, if they really aren't bluffing it's actually fucking pathetic & annoying
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Post by TexasPotter on Dec 15, 2017 14:08:17 GMT
Either Coates is senile as all hell, or that was one of the greatest falling on a sword for a current manager by a chairman to “turn it around” you’ll ever see. Sadly, I can’t tell if Coates is deluded or actually thinks Hughes can and is in no trouble whatsoever. Luckily the average Stoke supporter won’t put up with that shit long term, the losing run, stupid transfers and today’s debacle with Ireland. It’s all been terrible management with feelings and not ruthless enough to compete in a tough league. Just look at Burnley for a barometer of Ruthlessness.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Dec 15, 2017 14:15:07 GMT
How did din dins go at the Toby Carvery last night? Surely we had a dumb waiter eavesdropping?
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Post by alster on Dec 15, 2017 14:29:34 GMT
Oh dear. Brilliant.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 15, 2017 14:32:56 GMT
You made an assumption i was referring to you and your views on mark hughes didnt you? I couldn't really give a rats ass if you are a liar who doesnt know his own mind or not. I just want to know if you are taking his comments at face value or not. You don't seem to be able to make your mind up Of course I'm taking his comments at face value, I've already said that several times. You're just becoming tedious now Dave, I won't be replying to you on this thread again, for what it's worth. I'm truly heartbroken by your refusal to communicate on this matter. Thanks for this final response though. If you are taking them at face value you dont believe hughes is under pressure from coates at all. If you are taking them at face value the crowd reaction is irrelevant because coates doesnt see what the fuss is all about. You are conflicted my friend. It's like seeing darth vadar unravel all over again
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Post by alster on Dec 15, 2017 14:40:22 GMT
The problem with Pete is he's somehow not worried by the trend, in isolation i'd agree with him, if this was our first slow start, our first really bad run of bad performances i'd say ride the storm and things will come good It's not in isolation though is it? It's been 2 long years of downturn, we're now right back where we started before Hughes, i'm in genuine disbelief at the lack of urgency shown by the club, we don't get special happy points at the end of the season when Hughes and Co cash in their "should've won that" games You can be fun and exciting and deserve to win games all season, if you don't get points on the board you go down No sorry this is just more of that "this is where trying to play better football has landed us" bollocks we haven't even been trying to play good attacking football for well over a year, there is nothing fun or exciting about it. We are one of, if no the most boring negative sides in the league.
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Post by itsallgonepetetone on Dec 15, 2017 14:46:08 GMT
I think he's just trying to bat off a bit of what he will see as noise and hysteria, whilst publicly backing his under fire manager. I'm guessing he is looking at this weekend and trying everything to calm things down in order to help get a positive result. As supporters we'll see things the opposite way and there is no problem with that. It's a passionate sport. Fans, regardless of those amongst us that try and say they are calm, will always lose it a bit when teams go through elongated rough patches. It's natural. What goes on behind closed doors will be very different I think. If we lose on Saturday I dare say we will be looking for a new manager, regardless of what he has said here. Agree with nearly all of that except the last sentence. I think Hughes will have until 2 Jan at least and probably until the end of the season. Bringing in a new manager now is fraught with difficulty. I am of the opinion that Mark Hughes is our best option at the moment as long as the players are still with him. As soon as they down tools then he is toast. There are small signs of wilful slackness from some individuals but nothing that a couple of wins won't change. One thing we do not want is a negative, knicker-wetting mindset on Saturday. People need to rein in their emotions and try and get behind the team...if we start booing players 30mins into the game then we are ****ed! I am confident that Coates will make the right decision...and that decision may be to keep Hughes until the end of the season. However, unless we get another 35 points between now and the end of the season I do not expect Hughes to be in charge in August 2018. I’m assuming that’s last seasons justification?
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Post by jezzascfc on Dec 15, 2017 14:47:20 GMT
My view, if anyone cares, is that Coates should just have said 3 words: "AXE! AXE! AXE!"
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Post by superheroantonius on Dec 15, 2017 15:44:06 GMT
I understand the words ' doesn't know what all the fuss is about '
But I am still concerned about him saying it in the style of neville chamberlain, waving his bit of paper, after just meeting Hitler
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Dec 15, 2017 15:56:06 GMT
BET 365 will still be making zillions even if Stoke go down,on the plus side,Coates wont have to spend has much on a Championdhip side. He wins no matter what.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2017 15:58:09 GMT
Dracucoates has just totally lost the plot.
The stands need to be rammed full of loud, nasty, hostile, aggressive, revolting peasants. Peasants in revolt need to be heard.
A government should be afraid of its people.
A board of directors should be afraid of their supporters.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2017 15:59:38 GMT
BET 365 will still be making zillions even if Stoke go down,on the plus side,Coates wont have to spend has much on a Championdhip side. He wins no matter what. I think "they" have given up on it, don't give a fuck, and have lost the appetite for the "project" ( for want of a better, non JCL/nu-football phrase).
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Post by Fred Ferret on Dec 15, 2017 16:11:22 GMT
There are many things that may (or may not) be going on behind the scenes. But given the league position, the recent form and the long term form, you would think that there would have been some diplomacy in his comments. Regardless of his personal views on Hughes or the severity of the club, alienating the fans helps neither Hughes, the players or the club and it certainly doesn't reduce the potential media coverage that comes about because of it. This comment reflects that he neither understands the perception of our plight or doesn't care. When I mean care, I mean from a statistical monetary perspective. Claiming to be a life long club fan and being an owner/Chairperson are at odds with each other, because the decisions you would make as a fan are not the decisions you would make as an owner with a vested financial interest. At his stage in life and at his stage in football, he has the potential do frankly not give a fuck, because he can. However, going back to his comments, its almost as if he is goading the pesky peasants who stand in the cold as a non relevant noise that can easily be replaced. Why didn't he just say something along the lines of; We (collective and non blaming) were really disappointed in the Burnley result and felt that we deserved something from the game overall, it was a much more solid performance than in recent games which was promising. However, we are where we are because of the collective mistakes (infers club, Manager & Players) we have made over a period of time (makes reference to ongoing form) and we understand the importance of the current situation (we all know were in the shit) - more importantly we understand the fans unease with our current position (Look guys, I know your pissed but its not really helping). Its a position that we don't feel reflects the squads capability(The team is capable of 50 points and we need to address this) and as a club we are working harder than ever to turn the corner and start collecting points moving forward (We are looking at alternative Managers and new players for transfer window), starting with the West Ham game. I and Mark (Collective decision makers taking overall responsibility) understand the importance of our Fans, both Home and Away, and we are confident the players can put in a performance that they will appreciate at the weekend (We cant guarantee a win, but a solid performance is something we need). Its a cruel sport and we all know that a couple of decent results will change the shape of the table. Because he doesn't care what we or the national press think. The motives or beliefs behind Coates' statement beg questions. If he doesn't see what all the fuss is about, why did he make "concerned" utterances recently: 2/3 weeks ago about needing improvement and, at the week end, about the next 2 games must show improvement. There are some inconsistencies there with his very latest words. Also, regardless of whether or not he really believes his latest comments - he is hardly showing any concern as to the concerns of paying fans. He is being both patronising and dismissive and, in the current situation that will do him no favours. Seems to me that the heat is really on and he is trying to put the genie of fan outbursts tightly back in the bottle.
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Post by bringmesunshine on Dec 15, 2017 16:13:21 GMT
Haven't we been here before ???
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Post by alster on Dec 15, 2017 16:14:25 GMT
There are many things that may (or may not) be going on behind the scenes. But given the league position, the recent form and the long term form, you would think that there would have been some diplomacy in his comments. Regardless of his personal views on Hughes or the severity of the club, alienating the fans helps neither Hughes, the players or the club and it certainly doesn't reduce the potential media coverage that comes about because of it. This comment reflects that he neither understands the perception of our plight or doesn't care. When I mean care, I mean from a statistical monetary perspective. Claiming to be a life long club fan and being an owner/Chairperson are at odds with each other, because the decisions you would make as a fan are not the decisions you would make as an owner with a vested financial interest. At his stage in life and at his stage in football, he has the potential do frankly not give a fuck, because he can. However, going back to his comments, its almost as if he is goading the pesky peasants who stand in the cold as a non relevant noise that can easily be replaced. Why didn't he just say something along the lines of; We (collective and non blaming) were really disappointed in the Burnley result and felt that we deserved something from the game overall, it was a much more solid performance than in recent games which was promising. However, we are where we are because of the collective mistakes (infers club, Manager & Players) we have made over a period of time (makes reference to ongoing form) and we understand the importance of the current situation (we all know were in the shit) - more importantly we understand the fans unease with our current position (Look guys, I know your pissed but its not really helping). Its a position that we don't feel reflects the squads capability(The team is capable of 50 points and we need to address this) and as a club we are working harder than ever to turn the corner and start collecting points moving forward (We are looking at alternative Managers and new players for transfer window), starting with the West Ham game. I and Mark (Collective decision makers taking overall responsibility) understand the importance of our Fans, both Home and Away, and we are confident the players can put in a performance that they will appreciate at the weekend (We cant guarantee a win, but a solid performance is something we need). Its a cruel sport and we all know that a couple of decent results will change the shape of the table. Because he doesn't care what we or the national press think. The motives or beliefs behind Coates' statement beg questions. If he doesn't see what all the fuss is about, why did he make "concerned" utterances recently: 2/3 weeks ago about needing improvement and, at the week end, about the next 2 games must show improvement. There are some inconsistencies there with his very latest words. Also, regardless of whether or not he really believes his latest comments - he is hardly showing any concern as to the concerns of paying fans. He is being both patronising and dismissive and, in the current situation that will do him no favours. Seems to me that the heat is really on and he is trying to put the genie of fan outbursts tightly back in the bottle. In short he's repeating his mistakes of the past.
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Post by estp1863 on Dec 15, 2017 16:14:57 GMT
I'll believe he means it if we lose tomorrow & Hughes remains by Monday.
If he does for me we are preparing for relegation and have been since the summer & our sales, loans & buys in that window prove it
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Post by thevoid on Dec 15, 2017 16:19:39 GMT
It would be interesting to know if Bet365 have taken a lot of bets on the next Manager to fall of the Merry go Round , and maybe they may need to wait for another head to roll first, as I am sure MH must be a current favourite! Bit like a jockey also being a Bookmaker 🙄 I don't they offer the market. Conflict of interest surely.
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Post by thevoid on Dec 15, 2017 16:23:42 GMT
Perhaps Arnie was right in saying that he is leaving for a club with more ambition. Looks like he knew more than us! Well he did hint at things going on behind the scenes.
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Post by estp1863 on Dec 15, 2017 16:24:20 GMT
Just been rolling slow in traffic on the D road aside John Coates in his JFC 1 land rover. I wish it was summer and he had his window down id of give him both barrels
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