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Zouma
Dec 10, 2017 11:15:39 GMT
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 10, 2017 11:15:39 GMT
Looked immense for Chelsea. Why is he suddenly inept? Why are good players looking bad under Hughes?
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Zouma
Dec 10, 2017 11:18:07 GMT
Post by loosestools on Dec 10, 2017 11:18:07 GMT
Attitude.
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Zouma
Dec 10, 2017 11:18:50 GMT
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Post by tinofspam on Dec 10, 2017 11:18:50 GMT
That seems abit harsh pal, I agree yesterday wasn't his best game but he's been fair from inept in most of his games
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Zouma
Dec 10, 2017 11:23:57 GMT
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 10, 2017 11:23:57 GMT
That seems abit harsh pal, I agree yesterday wasn't his best game but he's been fair from inept in most of his games Maybe a bit, I agree. Far from the player he looked, though? I was using him as an example, really. Could have picked Shawcross just as easily.
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Post by tinofspam on Dec 10, 2017 11:33:18 GMT
That seems abit harsh pal, I agree yesterday wasn't his best game but he's been fair from inept in most of his games Maybe a bit, I agree. Far from the player he looked, though? I was using him as an example, really. Could have picked Shawcross just as easily. Well yeah he's not the player he was at Chelsea but I guess you could be right that it's because Hughes is using him differently. I'm not 100% sure but at Chelsea I think he had a different role and was oftenly used as a CDM, probably worth chucking him in Fletchers position. I think Shawcross is more down to his injury and cause he's had to be more of a captain and guide the players more! I can't remember him having to do runs up the pitch to get us to attack under Pulis. I do understand where you're coming from, guess it's different management and training styles.
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Post by nonameface on Dec 10, 2017 11:37:01 GMT
A lot of players would look decent playing for Chelsea.
Physically he is a monster, he's technically better than I was expecting too, but mentally he makes way too many wrong decisions to convince me he'll be a decent top flight defender any time soon.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Dec 10, 2017 11:38:24 GMT
Just seen the goals on the incident to the 3rd he just couldn't be arsed to give Butland an angle to pass the ball to him . It's just a loan to him would have preferred us to sign a good up and coming champion ship defender who wants to improve
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Zouma
Dec 10, 2017 12:09:34 GMT
Post by stokemark on Dec 10, 2017 12:09:34 GMT
Just seen the goals on the incident to the 3rd he just couldn't be arsed to give Butland an angle to pass the ball to him . It's just a loan to him would have preferred us to sign a good up and coming champion ship defender who wants to improve Exactly - loans at this level (premier league to premier league) have generally proven to be a false economy - very few work out if you think about it - exception being Victor Moses
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Zouma
Dec 10, 2017 12:16:01 GMT
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Post by expectedtoulouse on Dec 10, 2017 12:16:01 GMT
The guys awful. Poort attitude as displayed yet again yesterday. Positioning is terrible and he’s very poor with the ball at his feet.
Stoke fans only like him because he’s a big unit and was charging around flying into slide tackles earlier in the season, plus you can chat his name quite easily.
If Bruno was fit, I’d leave him out.
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Zouma
Dec 10, 2017 12:18:05 GMT
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Dec 10, 2017 12:18:05 GMT
Playing very poorly but so are a lot of them. I see a lot of quality players just not playing for this manager
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 12:20:44 GMT
Team management, man management -team selection - formation and, tactics by any chance ?
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Zouma
Dec 10, 2017 12:30:31 GMT
Post by robwahlmann on Dec 10, 2017 12:30:31 GMT
Plays in a system where he gets no protection. He is not a very gifted player, but a physical talent. Let's see him and Ryan form a central pairing in a 4 4 2 and we will see.
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Post by simple on Dec 10, 2017 12:45:06 GMT
Is recent performances as why Chelsea loaned him out for 7million plus wages.
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Post by roylandstoke on Dec 10, 2017 13:16:24 GMT
Looked immense for Chelsea. Why is he suddenly inept? Why are good players looking bad under Hughes? Quite simple. They don't have a clue on what jobs they are supposed to be doing or what jobs their team mates are supposed to be doing.
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Zouma
Dec 10, 2017 13:18:19 GMT
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 10, 2017 13:18:19 GMT
Looked immense for Chelsea. Why is he suddenly inept? Why are good players looking bad under Hughes? Quite simple. They don't have a clue on what jobs they are supposed to be doing or what jobs their team mates are supposed to be doing. Always helps! 😁
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Zouma
Dec 10, 2017 13:28:24 GMT
Post by reddipotter on Dec 10, 2017 13:28:24 GMT
I said to my friend last week that Chelsea must be fuming because Zouma is not improving as a defender under Hughes, which was presumably what they wanted.
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Zouma
Dec 10, 2017 13:34:30 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 10, 2017 13:34:30 GMT
His positional play is non-existent.
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Zouma
Dec 10, 2017 13:46:05 GMT
Post by harrysburrow on Dec 10, 2017 13:46:05 GMT
Is it fair to judge him when he's playing in our defence?
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Zouma
Dec 10, 2017 13:53:16 GMT
Post by scfc75 on Dec 10, 2017 13:53:16 GMT
Better coaching and tactics, better players around him. Any player would struggle to look good in our current side the way we are setting up.
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Zouma
Dec 10, 2017 16:18:08 GMT
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Post by stokeykez on Dec 10, 2017 16:18:08 GMT
Not a right back. Needs to be central with Ryan. Geoff at right back would allow zouma to carry it forward from the centre
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