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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2017 15:07:36 GMT
Modern football toss.
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Post by mrred on Dec 5, 2017 15:30:09 GMT
Got a point about #3. The clock should stop any time the ball goes out of play or any time there's an injury. Pretty much any time the ref blows the whistle. I think it's fucking crazy when there's a long injury and the clocks just ticking away.
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Post by mattador78 on Dec 5, 2017 15:35:55 GMT
A way to improve it would be to qualify from a piss weak group
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 5, 2017 15:40:30 GMT
1. No way. In what way would cheerleaders improve the game? Have them cavorting on the pitch at half time if you must - but not on the side of the pitch during the game. 2. Apparently the offside rule was brought in to make the game less defensive. Before the offside rule teams tended to sit deeper than after it was brought in. I think one of the great things about the game is when a skillful player beats the offside trap. 3. I've always thought that the professional game should have a visible clock which is stopped when there is a stoppage in the game as happens in rugby. The only point of contention to my mind would be how many minutes the clock should run for - maybe 80 minutes and if that proved too long maybe reduce it to 75? I donāt know Lakeland, I think Cheerleaders would have made the binary season just a smidge easier to bear, Yes, but that was the season when we decided we were not going to play football but a new game invented and patented by TP!
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Post by right on Dec 5, 2017 15:56:39 GMT
I donāt know Lakeland, I think Cheerleaders would have made the binary season just a smidge easier to bear, Title 9 Laws in the USA require an equal number of male and female cheerleaders in college football and basketball. Hasnāt made it into the professional game - thank God. Well, this isn't exactly correct. Just need the same amount of funding to go to both men and women sports at the university. Some sports like cheerleading have more females, some like American football have more males.
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Post by right on Dec 5, 2017 15:57:47 GMT
I work for an American company and spent some time with the team from California last week. We got around to talking about Soccer and one of the team had 3 suggestions to improve our National game 1. Cheerleaders - you can't really argue with this one! 2. Get rid of the offside rule - the theory being that there would be a lot more excitement and many more goals. We could see Stoke 24 - Swansea 19?? 3. Get rid of added time. There should be a game clock and when this gets to 90 minutes the game is over. Added time is too confusing and random!! I wonder if FIFA and the FA are open to some suggestions from the US of A?? Not sure who you are talking to but it's probably the American "bro" type who don't like soccer or ice hockey, and want everything to be more like American football and basketball.
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Post by raythesailor on Dec 5, 2017 16:46:23 GMT
An interesting point about the size of the goals.
As far as I know the size has not changed since day one, and if it has ever changed it is a very long time ago.
In those days men were generally much shorter and the average size of a goalkeeper would I suspect be between 5ā6 and 6 ft. Or even less.
Today in Professional football goalkeepers are comparitivly huge at 6ā6 plus, and arm spans to match, which must make life a lot easier than it was in the good old days.
I am sure that the powers that be will never change the goal size in my lifetime, but it is a thought?
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Post by stokeyank on Dec 5, 2017 17:05:09 GMT
Even as an American.
1. No, just no. If you want to look at women in skimpy clothes that's what the internet is for. 2. No, leave that one alone, but possibly use technology to make the calls better (without having to stop the game). 3. This I can support. Stop for a sub, injury, goal or a ref can stop if he sees time wasting on a free kick. This may have cost Man City a title if done a few years back (QPR match).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2017 17:28:30 GMT
No No And I think that'd be worth looking in to. But the thought of it actually going on for 90 minutes is frightening, the games would lengthen massively wouldn't they? It would certainly transform our annual home game v bournemouth where less than an hour of football is usually played
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Post by alster on Dec 5, 2017 17:30:19 GMT
No No And I think that'd be worth looking in to. But the thought of it actually going on for 90 minutes is frightening, the games would lengthen massively wouldn't they? It would certainly transform our annual home game v bournemouth where less than an hour of football is usually played We could just try not letting them take the lead.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2017 17:47:52 GMT
I work for an American company and spent some time with the team from California last week. We got around to talking about Soccer and one of the team had 3 suggestions to improve our National game 1. Cheerleaders - you can't really argue with this one! 2. Get rid of the offside rule - the theory being that there would be a lot more excitement and many more goals. We could see Stoke 24 - Swansea 19?? 3. Get rid of added time. There should be a game clock and when this gets to 90 minutes the game is over. Added time is too confusing and random!! I wonder if FIFA and the FA are open to some suggestions from the US of A?? 1 neigh, neigh and thrice neigh 2 it's football and not basketball š¬ 3 there is speculation FIFA want thirty minute halves, the clock stops when out of play. It ends time wasting tactics (the end of Eddie Howe if it does?). It also ends top six 'Fergie time' My only concern with the this is though that it could be impossible to implement down the leagues and amateur levels, thus distancing itself from the grass roots even further
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Post by waffles on Dec 5, 2017 17:48:25 GMT
It would certainly transform our annual home game v bournemouth where less than an hour of football is usually played We could just try not letting them take the lead. Hopefully we are trying not to let that happen in any gameš
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2017 17:50:18 GMT
1. No way. In what way would cheerleaders improve the game? Have them cavorting on the pitch at half time if you must - but not on the side of the pitch during the game. 2. Apparently the offside rule was brought in to make the game less defensive. Before the offside rule teams tended to sit deeper than after it was brought in. I think one of the great things about the game is when a skillful player beats the offside trap. 3. I've always thought that the professional game should have a visible clock which is stopped when there is a stoppage in the game as happens in rugby. The only point of contention to my mind would be how many minutes the clock should run for - maybe 80 minutes and if that proved too long maybe reduce it to 75? I donāt know Lakeland, I think Cheerleaders would have made the binary season just a smidge easier to bear, smidge easier or widge harder? š¬
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Post by chamberlain on Dec 5, 2017 18:51:29 GMT
It would certainly transform our annual home game v bournemouth where less than an hour of football is usually played We could just try not letting them take the lead. Sod it alster it might just be easier to change the laws of the game š
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Post by wapiti on Dec 5, 2017 19:25:19 GMT
In the words of Her Majesty, "Bugger orf, Yanks!"
1. Hell no, they'll just distract the managers in the technical area. Maybe a good idea with Hughes in one of them.
2. Harder decision......perhaps remove the offside rule for players inside the 6-yard box? Both sets of players converge on the box as attacks are mounted......that's where they want to go, let them play from that area unrestricted.
3. As the game adopts technology, why not have a video review official......who also keeps track of stoppage time.......define what can stop the clock, injuries, yellow/red cards, etc. But play a full 90 minutes.....5-10 minutes might be required to remove a seriously injured player.......the other players benefit via rest from the stop in action......but play those minutes.
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Post by marwood on Dec 5, 2017 19:57:02 GMT
Fireball - set fire to the ball during extra time Cack ball - ball to be rolled in dog cack to prevent heading and thus Alan Shearer type dementia
Head cams - all players to wear cameras strapped to their heads for in game cam action Kam cam - Chris Kamara to be on the pitch at all time, running around with a camera on his head, offering in game betting odds action
"Integrate against hate" - all teams to have at least one woman, one gay, and one American on their team
And yes....my suggestions are more sensible than the OP
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Dec 5, 2017 21:57:53 GMT
You almost lost me at "work" and "California"
I wouldn't really be inclined to change anything--warts and all. Although, maybe a 10 minute hockey type sit in the penalty box for a yellow card would be interesting to test out.
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Post by wapiti on Dec 5, 2017 22:27:38 GMT
Fireball - set fire to the ball during extra time Cack ball - ball to be rolled in dog cack to prevent heading and thus Alan Shearer type dementia Head cams - all players to wear cameras strapped to their heads for in game cam action Kam cam - Chris Kamara to be on the pitch at all time, running around with a camera on his head, offering in game betting odds action "Integrate against hate" - all teams to have at least one woman, one gay, and one American on their team And yes....my suggestions are more sensible than the OP More brilliant than a can of Guinness.
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Post by iglugluk on Dec 5, 2017 22:34:29 GMT
You gotta laugh, bless him
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Post by blackpoolred on Dec 5, 2017 23:00:44 GMT
I work for an American company and spent some time with the team from California last week. We got around to talking about Soccer and one of the team had 3 suggestions to improve our National game 1. Cheerleaders - you can't really argue with this one! 2. Get rid of the offside rule - the theory being that there would be a lot more excitement and many more goals. We could see Stoke 24 - Swansea 19?? 3. Get rid of added time. There should be a game clock and when this gets to 90 minutes the game is over. Added time is too confusing and random!! I wonder if FIFA and the FA are open to some suggestions from the US of A?? 1. Could they do it on a cold Tuesday night at the Brit? 2. I am sure Pulis would love this change, just lump it from 1 side of the pitch to the other and miss out the middle of the park entirely. 3. Added time is not confusing: basically if Stoke are 1-0 up against a team like Chelski or Man Ure then the ref will play till they equalise, Vice-versa there will be 1 minute added time no matter how many injuries and the ref will blow for full-time before the board is lofted in the air - quite simple really Seriously though I cannot understand why they don't put a clock on injury time, so every time a player goes down the clock stops, or the ball goes out of play or a sub is made. The last couple of minutes of a game is usually dreadful to watch, also the running the ball into a corner should be banned in injury time - it is an entertainment sport
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Post by lordb on Dec 5, 2017 23:04:28 GMT
So point 1: Hooters. 2: don't give a hoot. 3: like Rugby League bring in the hooter.
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Post by chad on Dec 5, 2017 23:20:07 GMT
1 Fuck off 2 Fuck off
3 absolutely 100% yes
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2017 23:22:44 GMT
Yeah man, but you'd still get the big clubs winning. By a bloody cricket score. Not for me! When they make the game fair for all, then, and only then will I be happy!
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Post by kustokie on Dec 6, 2017 4:08:56 GMT
I work for an American company and spent some time with the team from California last week. We got around to talking about Soccer and one of the team had 3 suggestions to improve our National game 1. Cheerleaders - you can't really argue with this one! 2. Get rid of the offside rule - the theory being that there would be a lot more excitement and many more goals. We could see Stoke 24 - Swansea 19?? 3. Get rid of added time. There should be a game clock and when this gets to 90 minutes the game is over. Added time is too confusing and random!! I wonder if FIFA and the FA are open to some suggestions from the US of A?? 1 neigh, neigh and thrice neigh 2 it's football and not basketball š¬ 3 there is speculation FIFA want thirty minute halves, the clock stops when out of play. It ends time wasting tactics (the end of Eddie Howe if it does?). It also ends top six 'Fergie time' My only concern with the this is though that it could be impossible to implement down the leagues and amateur levels, thus distancing itself from the grass roots even further Disagree with the last point because then technology is neither new nor complicated. Every basketball gym in the US from junior high up has a clock that can be started and stopped at the touch of a button.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2017 7:59:40 GMT
I work for an American company and spent some time with the team from California last week. We got around to talking about Soccer and one of the team had 3 suggestions to improve our National game 1. Cheerleaders - you can't really argue with this one! 2. Get rid of the offside rule - the theory being that there would be a lot more excitement and many more goals. We could see Stoke 24 - Swansea 19?? 3. Get rid of added time. There should be a game clock and when this gets to 90 minutes the game is over. Added time is too confusing and random!! I wonder if FIFA and the FA are open to some suggestions from the US of A?? 1) The majority of supporters tend to turn up just before kick off, head to the bar just before half time and leave early to avoid traffic. Pre game / half time entertainment isnāt a tradition in this country and wouldnāt get any more supporters through the door, so hardly any board is going to sanction the cost, no matter how small. 2) Then youād just get all teams playing a beast of a centre forward who can hold the ball up, so that if the defence pushed up they could hoof the ball forward and get a guaranteed one on one. As mentioned earlier itād actually make the game more defensive as teamsā defences would be forced to push no higher than the edge of their own area. 3) Itās exactly what they do in rugby union and I think it could translate well like the 10 yard dissent rule did for free kicks. However FIFA scrapped that rule after one year stating that the international audience didnāt āunderstandā the rule and Iād be surprised if they brought in another rule from the sport. Also, the referee have complete discretion over injury time is the simplest way the big clubs can be favoured without it being too obvious, so given they basically run the game itās not going to happen.
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