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Post by jeycov on Nov 14, 2017 13:03:38 GMT
Any update re his availability for our next game?
report in the media a few days ago, suggested he is a long term absentee😲
Link in Jesé post page 17
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 14, 2017 15:14:30 GMT
Cameron with another injury where he's out for a week and then a month later.....nothing. It's weird and actually quite troubling with the area it is.
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 14, 2017 16:16:42 GMT
Still problems with concussion after 3 weeks? Seems a bit concerning.
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 14, 2017 16:22:34 GMT
Cameron with another injury where he's out for a week and then a month later.....nothing. It's weird and actually quite troubling with the area it is. just don't let Butland cross his fingers else he might be out for another 8 weeks
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Post by duckling on Nov 14, 2017 16:48:20 GMT
My gut feeling, based on nothing, is that there is some psychological issue. Geoff was really really upset by the United States not making the World Cup and angry at being unfairly relegated to the bench by Bruce Arena. He might be experiencing some symptoms of depression that would prevent him from playing his best during a game when the pressure is so high. Perhaps Hughes doesn't want to risk him having a bad performance due to mental problems.
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Post by expectedtoulouse on Nov 14, 2017 16:52:26 GMT
My gut feeling, based on nothing, is that there is some psychological issue. Geoff was really really upset by the United States not making the World Cup and angry at being unfairly relegated to the bench. He might be experiencing some symptoms of depression that would prevent him from playing his best during a game when the pressure is so high. Perhaps Hughes doesn't want to risk him having a bad performance due to mental problems. Not true. The situation with Geoff is that he’s still not quite right after his concussion. A midfield player went steaming straight through him with not a malicious, but way too much of an over enthusiastic tackle in training. It upended him and he landed on his head hence the concussion. Other players in the squad weren’t happy with the tackle but both players are competitive and understood that its one of those things that happens.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Nov 14, 2017 17:03:11 GMT
My gut feeling, based on nothing, is that there is some psychological issue. Geoff was really really upset by the United States not making the World Cup and angry at being unfairly relegated to the bench. He might be experiencing some symptoms of depression that would prevent him from playing his best during a game when the pressure is so high. Perhaps Hughes doesn't want to risk him having a bad performance due to mental problems. Not true. The situation with Geoff is that he’s still not quite right after his concussion. A midfield player went steaming straight through him with not a malicious, but way too much of an over enthusiastic tackle in training. It upended him and he landed on his head hence the concussion. Other players in the squad weren’t happy with the tackle but both players are competitive and understood that its one of those things that happens. Charlie?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 14, 2017 17:09:30 GMT
Slight concussion 🤔
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 14, 2017 17:10:13 GMT
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Post by walton corner on Nov 14, 2017 17:13:43 GMT
I'm still expecting towards weekend..Ryan a doubt ,shaq took a knock and will be assessed monday morning
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 14, 2017 18:01:14 GMT
Get well soon Geoff we really miss him fur me he'd be right ring back with Diouf up top in my first eleven , but equal can do a decent job in midfield over Xmas , top player for us .
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Post by Fred Merger on Nov 14, 2017 18:16:37 GMT
Geoff has always been one of those players who plays a few games then is out for a few games thats just how its been since he has been at Stoke!
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Nov 14, 2017 20:03:38 GMT
Always takes him ages to get over any injury, obviously not in the Denis Smith class.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 14, 2017 20:58:48 GMT
Always takes him ages to get over any injury, obviously not in the Denis Smith class. Denis played minus limbs.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 14, 2017 20:59:41 GMT
Always takes him ages to get over any injury, obviously not in the Denis Smith class. Denis played minus limbs. No comment re how Geoff plays. 😂
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Nov 14, 2017 21:11:08 GMT
Denis played minus limbs. No comment re how Geoff plays. 😂 Like a man without limbs
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Post by hanibal7 on Nov 15, 2017 13:07:31 GMT
My gut feeling, based on nothing, is that there is some psychological issue. Geoff was really really upset by the United States not making the World Cup and angry at being unfairly relegated to the bench by Bruce Arena. He might be experiencing some symptoms of depression that would prevent him from playing his best during a game when the pressure is so high. Perhaps Hughes doesn't want to risk him having a bad performance due to mental problems. I hope your gut gets better, must be full of crap.
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Nov 15, 2017 14:32:34 GMT
My gut feeling, based on nothing, is that there is some psychological issue. Geoff was really really upset by the United States not making the World Cup and angry at being unfairly relegated to the bench by Bruce Arena. He might be experiencing some symptoms of depression that would prevent him from playing his best during a game when the pressure is so high. Perhaps Hughes doesn't want to risk him having a bad performance due to mental problems. Fake Speculation! Sad!
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Nov 15, 2017 20:09:02 GMT
My gut feeling, based on nothing, is that there is some psychological issue. Geoff was really really upset by the United States not making the World Cup and angry at being unfairly relegated to the bench by Bruce Arena. He might be experiencing some symptoms of depression that would prevent him from playing his best during a game when the pressure is so high. Perhaps Hughes doesn't want to risk him having a bad performance due to mental problems. Fake Speculation! Sad! so what is actually wrong with him??? Slight concussion doesnt last this long.
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Post by right on Nov 15, 2017 20:20:09 GMT
Concussions can be serious and have different healing times for different people. Even a minor concussion could leave you with symptoms for years. It's nothing to laugh at. The fact that concussions cannot be seen makes them seem like baby injuries to some people, but for the long term healthy of a player they are the most dangerous.
Plus, you don't want someone out there with impaired decision making skills. Just as bad for us as a player with a hamstring injury, just harder to notice at first.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Nov 15, 2017 20:24:06 GMT
Concussions can be serious and have different healing times for different people. Even a minor concussion could leave you with symptoms for years. It's nothing to laugh at. The fact that concussions cannot be seen makes them seem like baby injuries to some people, but for the long term healthy of a player they are the most dangerous. Plus, you don't want someone out there with impaired decision making skills. Just as bad for us as a player with a hamstring injury, just harder to notice at first. I know its serious but the word 'slight' infers that it isnt serious. Last time he was out we were misled about his injury and the time it would take him to recover. Seems to me that he 'allows' injuries to affect him more than others do.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 15, 2017 20:51:16 GMT
Concussions can be serious and have different healing times for different people. Even a minor concussion could leave you with symptoms for years. It's nothing to laugh at. The fact that concussions cannot be seen makes them seem like baby injuries to some people, but for the long term healthy of a player they are the most dangerous. Plus, you don't want someone out there with impaired decision making skills. Just as bad for us as a player with a hamstring injury, just harder to notice at first. I know its serious but the word 'slight' infers that it isnt serious. Last time he was out we were misled about his injury and the time it would take him to recover. Seems to me that he 'allows' injuries to affect him more than others do. So in essence are you suggesting he's a bit of a fanny?
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Nov 15, 2017 20:54:07 GMT
I know its serious but the word 'slight' infers that it isnt serious. Last time he was out we were misled about his injury and the time it would take him to recover. Seems to me that he 'allows' injuries to affect him more than others do. So in essence are you suggesting he's a bit of a fanny? well some players can play through minor injuries and some cant. IMO Cameron is in the latter.
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Nov 15, 2017 22:04:49 GMT
So in essence are you suggesting he's a bit of a fanny? well some players can play through minor injuries and some cant. IMO Cameron is in the latter. I would imagine that a slight concussion might be easily magnified if one has not fully recovered to the extent necessary/recommended. I'll leave the medical advice on whether he's "man" enough to play, or not, to his doctor.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Nov 16, 2017 14:53:36 GMT
well some players can play through minor injuries and some cant. IMO Cameron is in the latter. I would imagine that a slight concussion might be easily magnified if one has not fully recovered to the extent necessary/recommended. I'll leave the medical advice on whether he's "man" enough to play, or not, to his doctor. Doctors dont make the 'man enough' decision thats up to the player.
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Post by stokeyank on Nov 16, 2017 15:00:09 GMT
Concussions can be serious and have different healing times for different people. Even a minor concussion could leave you with symptoms for years. It's nothing to laugh at. The fact that concussions cannot be seen makes them seem like baby injuries to some people, but for the long term healthy of a player they are the most dangerous. Plus, you don't want someone out there with impaired decision making skills. Just as bad for us as a player with a hamstring injury, just harder to notice at first. I know its serious but the word 'slight' infers that it isnt serious. Last time he was out we were misled about his injury and the time it would take him to recover. Seems to me that he 'allows' injuries to affect him more than others do. It's also the case the Hughes calls everything, little, slight or minor. So honestly I don't think him calling it a slight concussion means anything about how sever it was/is.
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Post by crownmeking on Nov 16, 2017 15:05:06 GMT
My gut feeling, based on nothing, is that there is some psychological issue. Geoff was really really upset by the United States not making the World Cup and angry at being unfairly relegated to the bench by Bruce Arena. He might be experiencing some symptoms of depression that would prevent him from playing his best during a game when the pressure is so high. Perhaps Hughes doesn't want to risk him having a bad performance due to mental problems. If this is your gut feeling, based on nothing, why bother to share it? The reason for his absence has been explained more than once (concussion). In my view, it is unhelpful to start questioning the psychological state of a player based on nothing. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but I question why you would make something out of (in your own words) nothing.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Nov 16, 2017 15:09:19 GMT
I know its serious but the word 'slight' infers that it isnt serious. Last time he was out we were misled about his injury and the time it would take him to recover. Seems to me that he 'allows' injuries to affect him more than others do. It's also the case the Hughes calls everything, little, slight or minor. So honestly I don't think him calling it a slight concussion means anything about how sever it was/is. That is not true at all he doesnt call every injury slight, didnt with Camerons hamstring was it? Hes no Denis Smith like I said before.
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Post by stokeyank on Nov 16, 2017 15:20:08 GMT
It's also the case the Hughes calls everything, little, slight or minor. So honestly I don't think him calling it a slight concussion means anything about how sever it was/is. That is not true at all he doesnt call every injury slight, didnt with Camerons hamstring was it? Hes no Denis Smith like I said before. Oh not doubt he's not tough! Most any player from 20+ years back would have laughed at him and most players these days (it's a bit sad). I will defend anyone with a head injury though. You can function later in life with a bad limp, missing arm or a scar, but not so much if your brain isn't functioning.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Nov 16, 2017 15:22:20 GMT
That is not true at all he doesnt call every injury slight, didnt with Camerons hamstring was it? Hes no Denis Smith like I said before. Oh not doubt he's not tough! Most any player from 20+ years back would have laughed at him and most players these days (it's a bit sad). I will defend anyone with a head injury though. You can function later in life with a bad limp, missing arm or a scar, but not so much if your brain isn't functioning. Same with every injury though not just this 'slight' one.
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