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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 24, 2017 17:31:28 GMT
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 24, 2017 17:48:37 GMT
So just to get this right - if Brexit goes awfully, it was a still a great decision? Yes. And pretty everyone with half a brain knew that if the establishment didn't get its expected result they would throw their toys out of the pram. This has been proven correct time and again. It was all the fault of those sneaky Russians you know, commie bastards  |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 24, 2017 17:50:46 GMT
So just to get this right - if Brexit goes awfully, it was a still a great decision? Yes. And pretty everyone with half a brain knew that if the establishment didn't get its expected result they would throw their toys out of the pram. This has been proven correct time and again. The establishment want a hard brexit. Check out Murdoch and Dacre for starters. An establishment power grab is underway, I am genuinely surprised you can't see it. |
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 24, 2017 18:21:01 GMT
Yes. And pretty everyone with half a brain knew that if the establishment didn't get its expected result they would throw their toys out of the pram. This has been proven correct time and again. The establishment want a hard brexit. Check out Murdoch and Dacre for starters. An establishment power grab is underway, I am genuinely surprised you can't see it. with a new law in Europe next year meaning that they have to declare any funds in off shore accounts no wonder they want out to hide there ill gotten gains |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 24, 2017 19:00:40 GMT
The establishment want a hard brexit. Check out Murdoch and Dacre for starters. An establishment power grab is underway, I am genuinely surprised you can't see it. with a new law in Europe next year meaning that they have to declare any funds in off shore accounts no wonder they want out to hide there ill gotten gains It's ok though because we're "getting our country back"  |
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Nov 24, 2017 19:28:36 GMT
with a new law in Europe next year meaning that they have to declare any funds in off shore accounts no wonder they want out to hide there ill gotten gains It's ok though because we're "getting our country back"  I'm confused by you lot. One minute you're telling us how all the rich & powerful will be fucking off from Brexit Britain 'cos it'll be so shit & heading for the glorious EU, next minute you're telling us how the rich & powerful will be running from the EU & coming here. Which is it? |
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Post by bathstoke on Nov 24, 2017 20:49:00 GMT
It's ok though because we're "getting our country back" I'm confused by you lot. One minute you're telling us how all the rich & powerful will be fucking off from Brexit Britain 'cos it'll be so shit & heading for the glorious EU, next minute you're telling us how the rich & powerful will be running from the EU & coming here. Which is it? When does this Govts honeymoon end |
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 24, 2017 23:46:23 GMT
 there now fighting against each other on defence! its time for them to go |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Nov 25, 2017 13:05:59 GMT
So are all you Corbynista's out door knocking?? Seems Labour's having a Nationwide election campaign day.
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 25, 2017 13:37:07 GMT
So are all you Corbynista's out door knocking?? Seems Labour's having a Nationwide election campaign day. Thanks for the free advert Roger, knew that you would come round to our way of thinking eventually  |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Nov 25, 2017 14:02:14 GMT
So are all you Corbynista's out door knocking?? Seems Labour's having a Nationwide election campaign day. Thanks for the free advert Roger, knew that you would come round to our way of thinking eventually Oh it's free my friend. It's all over social media. Not sure why Labour think the weekend of Black Friday and Cyber Monday is a good time to go election campaigning when there's no election coming??!! |
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 25, 2017 14:47:31 GMT
there now fighting against each other on defence! its time for them to go Top quality ironic comedy there, Labour are oh so united on trident aren't they  |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Nov 25, 2017 15:31:48 GMT
The establishment want a hard brexit. Check out Murdoch and Dacre for starters. An establishment power grab is underway, I am genuinely surprised you can't see it. with a new law in Europe next year meaning that they have to declare any funds in off shore accounts no wonder they want out to hide there ill gotten gains Tell me about it! Damn CRS :-) |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 25, 2017 17:27:10 GMT
So just to get this right - if Brexit goes awfully, it was a still a great decision? Yes. And pretty everyone with half a brain knew that if the establishment didn't get its expected result they would throw their toys out of the pram. This has been proven correct time and again. Ah, the betrayal route in full effect. Frasers been down that way already, now Starkiller. You'll see more and more of this over the next couple of years. Basically, "It was a great decision and would have been fantastic if only it had been handled better/we hadn't been betrayed/the Establishment didn't spoil it". Anything to avoid considering it a giant mistake really. The electorate never blames itself. |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Nov 26, 2017 13:59:07 GMT
The Absolute Boy Hypocrite ...
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 26, 2017 22:49:05 GMT
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Post by Northy on Nov 27, 2017 7:54:01 GMT
There's going to be some good long term strategies coming out today, technical and infrastructure, 20-30 year plans, at long last something that hasn't been done for a long long time from succesive governments, it will give business and investors a target to look a post Brexit and beyond
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 27, 2017 8:38:33 GMT
Yes. And pretty everyone with half a brain knew that if the establishment didn't get its expected result they would throw their toys out of the pram. This has been proven correct time and again. Ah, the betrayal route in full effect. Frasers been down that way already, now Starkiller. You'll see more and more of this over the next couple of years. Basically, "It was a great decision and would have been fantastic if only it had been handled better/we hadn't been betrayed/the Establishment didn't spoil it". Anything to avoid considering it a giant mistake really. The electorate never blames itself. You are totally correct I am still awaiting the apologies off all the idiots that voted for Blair |
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 27, 2017 9:07:46 GMT
  Two reasons the Tory's are not fit to run the NHS they say that they have not cut budgets but in real terms when you take into account increasing population and other factors like pay freezes the NHS has been cut beyond the bone by them. the NHS is not safe in there hands they will not be happy until we have the same system as the USA where millions cant get health care!! and what are they doing about the drug companies over charging for drugs ? Nothing maybe because they give millions to the tory party!! If you want an NHS in the future you know what to do at the next election vote the self centred Tory's out!! |
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Post by Northy on Nov 27, 2017 18:16:36 GMT
Two reasons the Tory's are not fit to run the NHS they say that they have not cut budgets but in real terms when you take into account increasing population and other factors like pay freezes the NHS has been cut beyond the bone by them. the NHS is not safe in there hands they will not be happy until we have the same system as the USA where millions cant get health care!! and what are they doing about the drug companies over charging for drugs ? Nothing maybe because they give millions to the tory party!! If you want an NHS in the future you know what to do at the next election vote the self centred Tory's out!! can you tell us why we suddenly got the extra population for the nhs to look after, was it a general increase in childbirth that could be tracked and planned for, or a certain political party having a secret agenda for mass uncontrolled immigration ? do you remember which person from which political party first tried to privatise part of the nhs, ive told you before but in case you forgot it was Andy Burnham of Labour, that trust ended up going into administration, so who can't be trusted with the nhs ? |
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 27, 2017 19:37:57 GMT
Two reasons the Tory's are not fit to run the NHS they say that they have not cut budgets but in real terms when you take into account increasing population and other factors like pay freezes the NHS has been cut beyond the bone by them. the NHS is not safe in there hands they will not be happy until we have the same system as the USA where millions cant get health care!! and what are they doing about the drug companies over charging for drugs ? Nothing maybe because they give millions to the tory party!! If you want an NHS in the future you know what to do at the next election vote the self centred Tory's out!! can you tell us why we suddenly got the extra population for the nhs to look after, was it a general increase in childbirth that could be tracked and planned for, or a certain political party having a secret agenda for mass uncontrolled immigration ? We as a country have had an aging population where more people are living pas 70 this together with a falling birth rate at the time would have resulted in the types of problems Germany faced with a workforce reducing what has happened is people have come into the country married had children and contributed to society in the form of taxation and also socially. the key point is that this government has cut per head the amount that they spend on the NHS while trying to say that they haven't.do you remember which person from which political party first tried to privatise part of the nhs, ive told you before but in case you forgot it was Andy Burnham of Labour, that trust ended up going into administration, so who can't be trusted with the nhs ? Another point that always annoys me is that drugs developed by public funding and research especially those for cancer are being priced ridiculously high by companies to just milk ill and dyeing people. Until we get to grips with this and stop these companies giving money to political party's we will have an ever increasing drugs bill. Add to this the inept Hunt of a health minister the recruitment problems due to poor working conditions and a reduction in funding we have an NHS at the verge of breaking. the conservatives want there private companies to run parts of the NHS so they can get there kick backs. All profitable services have been already put out to these companies to make them profit. leaving the NHS with dearer procedures while having to pay for these private companies dividends. we had politicians (grove, Johnson, Ledsham) saying when we leave Europe we will give £350 million per week to the NHS and when they had the chance to vote for this they voted against. The reason I bring this up is the £350 million per week is what the head of the NHS says we need to get it back per capita to what it should be also add to this the reduction of NHS England's revenue by £500 million to pay off the DUP bribe you see the Tory's priority anything to save there own skins and further there aim of a private health service like america |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 27, 2017 22:44:08 GMT
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 28, 2017 7:28:29 GMT
Yet again this government trys to run ruff shod over your representatives despite not having a majority they try to fix to there nasty ways power corrupts and ultimate power corrupts ultimately and we see that all the time with mays government, get her and her cronies out now!! |
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 28, 2017 7:41:07 GMT
Just watched bbc breakfast and they had an article on disabled changes put in by this government (were talking the most venerable and severally disabled here) the parent and others have had provisions that there children needed and were entitled to by law withdrawn by the councils and it transpired from the interviews that the only reason was for monetary concerns caused by this governments cuts to council yet again this is another case of this government hitting the most vulnerable in this society hard in order to pay for there selfish political aims. this really is the nasty party!!
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Post by felonious on Nov 28, 2017 7:48:12 GMT
Well it looks like the banks have been finally sorted out since the good old days of Gordon Brown.
Clean bill of health for UK banks
www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42148682
Next test is to stress test then for a Corbyn administration  |
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Post by Northy on Nov 28, 2017 7:57:03 GMT
Well it looks like the banks have been finally sorted out since the good old days of Gordon Brown.
Clean bill of health for UK banks
www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42148682
Next test is to stress test then for a Corbyn administration well done to them, bonus's all round then  |
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Post by felonious on Nov 28, 2017 8:03:41 GMT
Well it looks like the banks have been finally sorted out since the good old days of Gordon Brown.
Clean bill of health for UK banks
www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42148682
Next test is to stress test then for a Corbyn administration well done to them, bonus's all round then Aren't bank bonuses a good thing for the exchequer? They produce a shedload of income tax and employee and employer NI. |
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Post by Northy on Nov 28, 2017 8:04:15 GMT
can you tell us why we suddenly got the extra population for the nhs to look after, was it a general increase in childbirth that could be tracked and planned for, or a certain political party having a secret agenda for mass uncontrolled immigration ? We as a country have had an aging population where more people are living pas 70 this together with a falling birth rate at the time would have resulted in the types of problems Germany faced with a workforce reducing what has happened is people have come into the country married had children and contributed to society in the form of taxation and also socially. the key point is that this government has cut per head the amount that they spend on the NHS while trying to say that they haven't.do you remember which person from which political party first tried to privatise part of the nhs, ive told you before but in case you forgot it was Andy Burnham of Labour, that trust ended up going into administration, so who can't be trusted with the nhs ? Another point that always annoys me is that drugs developed by public funding and research especially those for cancer are being priced ridiculously high by companies to just milk ill and dyeing people. Until we get to grips with this and stop these companies giving money to political party's we will have an ever increasing drugs bill. Add to this the inept Hunt of a health minister the recruitment problems due to poor working conditions and a reduction in funding we have an NHS at the verge of breaking. the conservatives want there private companies to run parts of the NHS so they can get there kick backs. All profitable services have been already put out to these companies to make them profit. leaving the NHS with dearer procedures while having to pay for these private companies dividends. we had politicians (grove, Johnson, Ledsham) saying when we leave Europe we will give £350 million per week to the NHS and when they had the chance to vote for this they voted against. The reason I bring this up is the £350 million per week is what the head of the NHS says we need to get it back per capita to what it should be also add to this the reduction of NHS England's revenue by £500 million to pay off the DUP bribe you see the Tory's priority anything to save there own skins and further there aim of a private health service like america what about improving efficiency in the NHS as well, the recent report highlighting where inefficieny is creating waiting and cancellations for operations? What about stop giving people free prescriptions at £8 a shot when the same pills can be bought for 26p in the chemist next door? What about clamping down on NHStourism and getting all tha money back owed over the years? What about letting their back up systemsbeing used for peak load lopping, energy store and hitting triads for getting money back from the grid? Im all for the NHS but it needs a change of thinking in certain areas where people from outside in the private industry can add benefit, it doesn't have to be privatised, look a partnerships etc. Oh, and don't forget your mates from labour who are crippling the NHS for at least another 15 years of PFI bills, you keep forgetting that bit don't you? |
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Post by Northy on Nov 28, 2017 8:06:58 GMT
Just watched bbc breakfast and they had an article on disabled changes put in by this government (were talking the most venerable and severally disabled here) the parent and others have had provisions that there children needed and were entitled to by law withdrawn by the councils and it transpired from the interviews that the only reason was for monetary concerns caused by this governments cuts to council yet again this is another case of this government hitting the most vulnerable in this society hard in order to pay for there selfish political aims. this really is the nasty party!! I didn't see it but what councils were they, is it direct cuts by the government to disabled benefits or council cuts where the councils make a decision of what to cut ? Some of these councils pay their Chief execs more than twice the PM earns, and also lots of senior staff get more than the PM as well |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 28, 2017 17:54:32 GMT
Failed to eradicate deficit
Lost UK's AAA rating
Slowest wage growth since 19th cent
Worst productivity in modern times
Doubled national debt
Record trade gap
Richest 1,000 doubled wealth while 1m+ using foodbanks
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