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Post by satoshi on Nov 13, 2023 17:45:04 GMT
Have you seen the Belgium and American counterparts? No, can't say I have. Are they Tories too? Yes everyone is.
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Post by thisisouryear on Nov 13, 2023 17:50:26 GMT
No, can't say I have. Are they Tories too? Yes everyone is. They suck the life out of everyone, even eachother it appears.
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 13, 2023 17:54:33 GMT
You need to separate the coalition with Cameron government post-coalition. During the coalition, the lib dems were able to water down the worst of austerity and the tories. They did some progressive things largely stolen from the lib dem manifesto. In the Cameron government after the coalition austerity got much worse and the progressive policies generally dried up and then we got to the brexit referendum, the shit hit the fan and everything since has been an unmitigated disaster in every single way. Cameron isn’t a lunatic like most ministers since the Johnson government got in. But that isn’t a ringing endorsement that “he isn’t a lunatic”. He's a tw*t just a professional one. That’s a good way of putting it
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 13, 2023 17:57:18 GMT
I don't understand where the Cameron appointment has come from. Are things in Israel more serious than what we think or is he just fed up of what's been going on and potentially going to run for leader again? At least Cameron isn't embarrassing, he always comes across very professional. Definitely a step up on what's been in the cabinet in recent years. Think you've answered your own question there. His appointment is basically an acknowledgement that the last time we had anything approaching a rational, vaguely coherent government was the coalition led by Cameron over eihht years ago and that no-one in the current parliamentary party is capable of doing the job, which says an awful lot about the 350 Tory MPs in the house. I'm looking forward to hearing the pig-fucker's thoughts on Britain's relationship with the EU in the weeks and months ahead. I wonder if Sunak has done this to fuck up Bozo's chances of ever being PM or leader of the Tories again. Cameron has an axe to grind with the Bluffer so he'll no longer be getting any free trips to Ukraine, Israel etc to try to raise his profile and look statesmanlike.
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 13, 2023 17:57:19 GMT
I think if you compare Camerons era to the last 7 it looks succesful in contrast but I see that more as an indictment on how bad the last 7 years have been. The one thing which always sticks with me in the build up to 2010 was the focus on the economy, debt, borrowing, labour can't be trusted with the economy etc.. The only difference between now and 2010 is all the above has gotten much worse. The tabloids don't speak about it but it certainly hasn't disappeared. I doubt the average person knows how bad it has gotten given the media's blackout on it. I think the electorate are going to be in for a bit of a shock when Starmer strolls into power next year. Hes not proposing anything radically different and he's going to have very little room to maneuvre economically. He certainly wont be able to splash the goodies like Blair. Just having a government willing to respect international and domestic law would be a massive step in the right direction. I don’t think people are asking for that much as we all know our economy has been absolutely ruined by the tories.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 13, 2023 18:01:27 GMT
Hmmm, Brexit referendum aside, I agree. It's got gradually worse since though and that's as a direct result of the referendum to a large degree. He's not an elected MP though so he shouldn't be anywhere near the cabinet. You need to separate the coalition with Cameron government post-coalition. During the coalition, the lib dems were able to water down the worst of austerity and the tories. They did some progressive things largely stolen from the lib dem manifesto. In the Cameron government after the coalition austerity got much worse and the progressive policies generally dried up and then we got to the brexit referendum, the shit hit the fan and everything since has been an unmitigated disaster in every single way. Cameron isn’t a lunatic like most ministers since the Johnson government got in. But that isn’t a ringing endorsement that “he isn’t a lunatic”. Yeah. You also have to appreciate that most of the policies they put in place, like underfunding the NHS, police etc are only now coming into full effect. The glidepath of falling standards started around 2012/3 and, with no help from Covid, is now resulting in the catastrophic waiting list figures etc.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 13, 2023 18:01:31 GMT
You lefties really need to make your minds up. You’re either really really angry with the government or you find them hilariously funny. Bit weird really
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Post by adri2008 on Nov 13, 2023 18:02:08 GMT
I think the electorate are going to be in for a bit of a shock when Starmer strolls into power next year. Hes not proposing anything radically different and he's going to have very little room to maneuvre economically. He certainly wont be able to splash the goodies like Blair. Just having a government willing to respect international and domestic law would be a massive step in the right direction. I don’t think people are asking for that much as we all know our economy has been absolutely ruined by the tories. I suspect people will be expecting public services to improve but wheres the money coming from? - its going to be very tricky which is why Labour have been busily rowing back on past promises.
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Post by elystokie on Nov 13, 2023 18:08:54 GMT
You lefties really need to make your minds up. You’re either really really angry with the government or you find them hilariously funny. Bit weird really Do the two have to be mutually exclusive? 🤔
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 13, 2023 18:09:01 GMT
I thought she was a presenter of late on the TV🤔
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 13, 2023 18:11:21 GMT
I thought she was a presenter of late on the TV🤔 She should defo be on the “women you find weirdly attractive” thread
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 13, 2023 18:13:39 GMT
You lefties really need to make your minds up. You’re either really really angry with the government or you find them hilariously funny. Bit weird really Do the two have to be mutually exclusive? 🤔 Good point, I’m same with my mrs🤷🏻♂️
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 13, 2023 18:13:43 GMT
I thought she was a presenter of late on the TV🤔 She should defo be on the “women you find weirdly attractive” thread Agreed until she opens her trap😊
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 13, 2023 18:14:40 GMT
She should defo be on the “women you find weirdly attractive” thread Agreed until she opens her trap😊 Oh I’d soon sort that out. Oi oiiiii😉
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Post by scfcno1fan on Nov 13, 2023 18:14:44 GMT
First vote of no confidence comes through for Rishi.
Wonder how many more there will be….
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Post by satoshi on Nov 13, 2023 18:26:31 GMT
They suck the life out of everyone, even eachother it appears. Even the Belgians
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Post by andystokey on Nov 13, 2023 18:26:44 GMT
I see the Tories have recruited Fabrizio Romano to work on their social media, it's like they're announcing a new left back from Ligue Un............... I'm sure there is no conflict of interest dealing with an obesity epidemic as Health Secretary and her husband's top job at British Sugar.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 13, 2023 18:39:39 GMT
I see the Tories have recruited Fabrizio Romano to work on their social media, it's like they're announcing a new left back from Ligue Un............... I'm sure there is no conflict of interest dealing with an obesity epidemic as Health Secretary and her husband's top job at British Sugar. Another one for the “weirdly attractive” thread. Her not you. Although I’m not saying you’re not weirdly attractive, I’ve just never seen a photo of you in make up.
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Post by satoshi on Nov 13, 2023 18:40:05 GMT
Rishi signed his own death warrant today
We need another unelected billionaire in power asap
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Post by andystokey on Nov 13, 2023 18:40:44 GMT
I'm sure there is no conflict of interest dealing with an obesity epidemic as Health Secretary and her husband's top job at British Sugar. Another one for the “weirdly attractive” thread. Her not you. Although I’m not saying you’re not weirdly attractive, I’ve just never seen a photo of you in make up. You're not going to trick me into sending one that easily.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 13, 2023 18:41:27 GMT
Another one for the “weirdly attractive” thread. Her not you. Although I’m not saying you’re not weirdly attractive, I’ve just never seen a photo of you in make up. You're not going to trick me into sending one that easily. Dammit😡
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 13, 2023 18:42:28 GMT
Rishi signed his own death warrant today We need another unelected billionaire in power asap Did he? I’d expect that to be headline news
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Post by satoshi on Nov 13, 2023 18:43:17 GMT
Rishi signed his own death warrant today We need another unelected billionaire in power asap Did he? I’d expect that to be headline news Have a look at the news then
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 13, 2023 18:44:35 GMT
Did he? I’d expect that to be headline news Have a look at the news then ‘Twas a joke owd
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Post by satoshi on Nov 13, 2023 18:46:53 GMT
Have a look at the news then ‘Twas a joke owd Sorry been microdosing shrooms since noon
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Post by elystokie on Nov 13, 2023 18:54:10 GMT
I see the Tories have recruited Fabrizio Romano to work on their social media, it's like they're announcing a new left back from Ligue Un............... I'm sure there is no conflict of interest dealing with an obesity epidemic as Health Secretary and her husband's top job at British Sugar. The British Sugar whose weed growing operation is financed by the company Theresa May's husband works for and whose weed enables the UK to be the biggest exporter in the world of medicinal cannabis whilst virtually none of it is available for UK patients. She couldn't discuss weed as drugs minister, had to recuse herself in parliament, absolutely mental. British Sugar is owned by Associated British Foods, personally I boycott all their products, bit of a shame as Pataks curry sauces are one of their lines and I quite like them but needs must 😐
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 13, 2023 18:56:07 GMT
I'm sure there is no conflict of interest dealing with an obesity epidemic as Health Secretary and her husband's top job at British Sugar. The British Sugar whose weed growing operation is financed by the company Theresa May's husband works for and whose weed enables the UK to be the biggest exporter in the world of medicinal cannabis whilst virtually none of it is available for UK patients. She couldn't discuss weed as drugs minister, had to recuse herself in parliament, absolutely mental. British Sugar is owned by Associated British Foods, personally I boycott all their products, bit of a shame as Pataks curry sauces are one of their lines and I quite like them but needs must 😐 There’s no doubt in my mind that you should be drugs minister Ely😉
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Post by elystokie on Nov 13, 2023 19:06:11 GMT
The British Sugar whose weed growing operation is financed by the company Theresa May's husband works for and whose weed enables the UK to be the biggest exporter in the world of medicinal cannabis whilst virtually none of it is available for UK patients. She couldn't discuss weed as drugs minister, had to recuse herself in parliament, absolutely mental. British Sugar is owned by Associated British Foods, personally I boycott all their products, bit of a shame as Pataks curry sauces are one of their lines and I quite like them but needs must 😐 There’s no doubt in my mind that you should be drugs minister Ely😉 Nor mine 😂 It's just convincing everybody else haha 🙂
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 13, 2023 19:12:22 GMT
Just having a government willing to respect international and domestic law would be a massive step in the right direction. I don’t think people are asking for that much as we all know our economy has been absolutely ruined by the tories. I suspect people will be expecting public services to improve but wheres the money coming from? - its going to be very tricky which is why Labour have been busily rowing back on past promises. How about taxing the wealth of all the newly minted multi millionaires the tories gave everyone else’s money to? Tax their wealth to pay for improvements to public services to benefit the majority. That’s what I would do.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 13, 2023 19:12:53 GMT
There’s no doubt in my mind that you should be drugs minister Ely😉 Nor mine 😂 It's just convincing everybody else haha 🙂 I’m glad you’d be happy to work for the Tories. I would tbf, sounds like a real money spinner
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