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Post by roylandstoke on Nov 4, 2023 8:07:05 GMT
What's going down here lads. Skipped to the final page. Sounds exciting 😅 Usual WUMs getting cheap kicks doing WUM shit.
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 4, 2023 8:34:52 GMT
Right just thought a bit about cruellest ban on tents ok if she's going to do it then there has to be an alternative
To me there are 4 options each should come with support and help
1 put them in houses we know their can't do that as there are none
2 put them in empty government buildings
3 put them on government run camp sites with shower facilities etc easy to do simple law allowing government to set up without planning regulations abit like the law allowing s outs to camp wherever they like with the landowners permission so there is president
4 follow lous pod idea from covid
Any option must come with a social care system in place and we all know that the tories don't care
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Post by Veritas on Nov 4, 2023 9:28:01 GMT
Almost unbelievable but with her nothing is
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 4, 2023 9:46:24 GMT
Almost unbelievable but with her nothing is I'm interested to know who actually thinks this is a good idea, which part of the electorate could possibly be energised by this to think that making life that little bit harder for people who are already scraping the barrel of life is a good move?
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Post by stiggerstackle on Nov 4, 2023 9:52:10 GMT
Almost unbelievable but with her nothing is I'm interested to know who actually thinks this is a good idea, which part of the electorate could possibly be energised by this to think that making life that little bit harder for people who are already scraping the barrel of life is a good move? Exactly, who the fuck are they trying to target with this proposal who’d come out and say ‘ooh yes, that’s exactly the motivation they need!’. It’s like she’s in a fever dream after eating some bad cheese and being dumped. What dark place is this woman’s mind inhabiting? I don’t know a single human being who would support this, and if I did then I wouldn’t know them for much longer. Are there really that many bastards about that you’d float this shit for?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 4, 2023 9:58:29 GMT
I'm interested to know who actually thinks this is a good idea, which part of the electorate could possibly be energised by this to think that making life that little bit harder for people who are already scraping the barrel of life is a good move? Exactly, who the fuck are they trying to target with this proposal who’d come out and say ‘ooh yes, that’s exactly the motivation they need!’. It’s like she’s in a fever dream after eating some bad cheese and being dumped. What dark place is this woman’s mind inhabiting? I don’t know a single human being who would support this, and if I did then I wouldn’t know them for much longer. Are there really that many bastards about that you’d float this shit for? Quite. The Tories already have this firmly embedded (and often well-deserved) reputation for not giving the remotest shit about ordinary people, only caring about power and their own. This just reinforces that.
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Post by knype on Nov 4, 2023 10:01:19 GMT
The Israel thread has turned into a typical left wing anti-semitic orgy Anti zionist mate. I could be wrong but I don't think bayern or oggy to name a few are right wing. And I don't think serpico, felnious, waga and others are overly left wing either - if at all. Hamas are a conservative Islamic organisation which aligns with right wing ideology. So guess if you want to make this about left and right that's a bit awkward. All of the left are anti Israel, especially the ones on here...
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Post by wannabee on Nov 4, 2023 10:16:19 GMT
Anti zionist mate. I could be wrong but I don't think bayern or oggy to name a few are right wing. And I don't think serpico, felnious, waga and others are overly left wing either - if at all. Hamas are a conservative Islamic organisation which aligns with right wing ideology. So guess if you want to make this about left and right that's a bit awkward. All of the left are anti Israel, especially the ones on here... People are not anti Israel they are anti this Israeli Government When the Telegraph describes the present Israeli Government as the most Right Wing in its history don't you think it would be illogical that anyone with left of centre views would support it? www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/03/24/israel-could-heading-right-wing-government-history/
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 4, 2023 10:35:50 GMT
Anti zionist mate. I could be wrong but I don't think bayern or oggy to name a few are right wing. And I don't think serpico, felnious, waga and others are overly left wing either - if at all. Hamas are a conservative Islamic organisation which aligns with right wing ideology. So guess if you want to make this about left and right that's a bit awkward. All of the left are anti Israel, especially the ones on here... Depends how you define “the left” The Labour Friends of Israel lot are certainly not anti-Israel, in fact some of them seem more interested in Israel than domestic politics…….
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2023 11:20:23 GMT
I'm interested to know who actually thinks this is a good idea, which part of the electorate could possibly be energised by this to think that making life that little bit harder for people who are already scraping the barrel of life is a good move? Exactly, who the fuck are they trying to target with this proposal who’d come out and say ‘ooh yes, that’s exactly the motivation they need!’. It’s like she’s in a fever dream after eating some bad cheese and being dumped. What dark place is this woman’s mind inhabiting? I don’t know a single human being who would support this, and if I did then I wouldn’t know them for much longer. Are there really that many bastards about that you’d float this shit for? I’ve posted this before but it’s very relevant here. Houston has taken pioneering steps in addressing what was one of the cities with the biggest homelessness problems. They simply built flats for homeless people and put them in there for a year, rent-free. They paid for psychiatric help and rehab and provided skills to help them get into the job market. They worked with local providers to identify those most in need, i.e., those most vulnerable or those who have been out on the street the longest (years), so that help first went to those that most needed it. www.nytimes.com/2022/06/14/headway/houston-homeless-people.htmlThe reason: 1) cost. It was cheaper for the system than chronic homelessness. 2) effectiveness. People are far less likely to be treated for mental health conditions (for example) if they go back on the street after a session. People stayed off the street and could GIVE BACK to society through gainful employment. What is Britain going to do? Look to take away their tents. Solving homelessness by hoping that more people just die on the streets.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 4, 2023 11:24:16 GMT
Exactly, who the fuck are they trying to target with this proposal who’d come out and say ‘ooh yes, that’s exactly the motivation they need!’. It’s like she’s in a fever dream after eating some bad cheese and being dumped. What dark place is this woman’s mind inhabiting? I don’t know a single human being who would support this, and if I did then I wouldn’t know them for much longer. Are there really that many bastards about that you’d float this shit for? I’ve posted this before but it’s very relevant here. Houston has taken pioneering steps in addressing what was one of the cities with the biggest homelessness problems. They simply built flats for homeless people and put them in there for a year, rent-free. They paid for psychiatric help and rehab and provided skills to help them get into the job market. They worked with local providers to identify those most in need, i.e., those most vulnerable or those who have been out on the street the longest (years), so that help first went to those that most needed it. www.nytimes.com/2022/06/14/headway/houston-homeless-people.htmlThe reason: 1) cost. It was cheaper for the system than chronic homelessness. 2) effectiveness. People are far less likely to be treated for mental health conditions (for example) if they go back on the street after a session. People stayed off the street and could GIVE BACK to society through gainful employment. What is Britain going to do? Look to take away their tents. Solving homelessness by hoping that more people just die on the streets. It's cheaper in the medium to long term, that's what's frustrating and that's without getting into it on a human level........
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Post by elystokie on Nov 4, 2023 11:29:41 GMT
I’ve posted this before but it’s very relevant here. Houston has taken pioneering steps in addressing what was one of the cities with the biggest homelessness problems. They simply built flats for homeless people and put them in there for a year, rent-free. They paid for psychiatric help and rehab and provided skills to help them get into the job market. They worked with local providers to identify those most in need, i.e., those most vulnerable or those who have been out on the street the longest (years), so that help first went to those that most needed it. www.nytimes.com/2022/06/14/headway/houston-homeless-people.htmlThe reason: 1) cost. It was cheaper for the system than chronic homelessness. 2) effectiveness. People are far less likely to be treated for mental health conditions (for example) if they go back on the street after a session. People stayed off the street and could GIVE BACK to society through gainful employment. What is Britain going to do? Look to take away their tents. Solving homelessness by hoping that more people just die on the streets. It's cheaper in the medium to long term, that's what's frustrating and that's without getting into it on a human level........ Politicians want (what they see as) the quickest, cheapest possible solution. If they set in motion a program that provides a solution that arrives under someone else's watch it's no good to them.
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Post by stiggerstackle on Nov 4, 2023 11:33:08 GMT
Exactly, who the fuck are they trying to target with this proposal who’d come out and say ‘ooh yes, that’s exactly the motivation they need!’. It’s like she’s in a fever dream after eating some bad cheese and being dumped. What dark place is this woman’s mind inhabiting? I don’t know a single human being who would support this, and if I did then I wouldn’t know them for much longer. Are there really that many bastards about that you’d float this shit for? I’ve posted this before but it’s very relevant here. Houston has taken pioneering steps in addressing what was one of the cities with the biggest homelessness problems. They simply built flats for homeless people and put them in there for a year, rent-free. They paid for psychiatric help and rehab and provided skills to help them get into the job market. They worked with local providers to identify those most in need, i.e., those most vulnerable or those who have been out on the street the longest (years), so that help first went to those that most needed it. www.nytimes.com/2022/06/14/headway/houston-homeless-people.htmlThe reason: 1) cost. It was cheaper for the system than chronic homelessness. 2) effectiveness. People are far less likely to be treated for mental health conditions (for example) if they go back on the street after a session. People stayed off the street and could GIVE BACK to society through gainful employment. What is Britain going to do? Look to take away their tents. Solving homelessness by hoping that more people just die on the streets. What a great solution, and one that our government should actively be pursuing, rather than pursuing their strategy of attrition.
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Post by thisisouryear on Nov 4, 2023 11:35:19 GMT
Anti zionist mate. I could be wrong but I don't think bayern or oggy to name a few are right wing. And I don't think serpico, felnious, waga and others are overly left wing either - if at all. Hamas are a conservative Islamic organisation which aligns with right wing ideology. So guess if you want to make this about left and right that's a bit awkward. All of the left are anti Israel, especially the ones on here... What a load of rubbish, not one person has said they are anti Jews or anti Israel they are anti the slaughter of civilians whoever they are. Hamas cannot be eradicated when they operate outside of Gaza so inevitably there has to be some sort of compromise which involves both parties talking and stopping the violence along with the countries they operate in. All that's going to happen here at the moment is Palestinians are going to pushed out of their homes and cities and into other countries where they will become radicalised and then we will see an increase in terrorist attacks around the world. They need to find a way to live with eachother.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 4, 2023 12:06:30 GMT
Anti zionist mate. I could be wrong but I don't think bayern or oggy to name a few are right wing. And I don't think serpico, felnious, waga and others are overly left wing either - if at all. Hamas are a conservative Islamic organisation which aligns with right wing ideology. So guess if you want to make this about left and right that's a bit awkward. All of the left are anti Israel, especially the ones on here... Yeah and all of the right on here believe that all Palestinians are terrorists ... See I can make completely dumbarse statements too! Jeez ...
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 4, 2023 12:16:53 GMT
All of the left are anti Israel, especially the ones on here... Yeah and all of the right on here believe that all Palestinians are terrorists ... See I can make completely dumbarse statements too! Jeez ... Are you in the least bit surprised?
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Post by gawa on Nov 4, 2023 12:33:49 GMT
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Post by OldStokie on Nov 4, 2023 12:42:51 GMT
For me, Braverman is the most vile of a bad bunch. She's a heartless bastard and cruel with it. I wouldn't piss on her if she was on fire.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2023 12:47:15 GMT
It's cheaper in the medium to long term, that's what's frustrating and that's without getting into it on a human level........ Politicians want (what they see as) the quickest, cheapest possible solution. If they set in motion a program that provides a solution that arrives under someone else's watch it's no good to them. Which is a huge shame. The Houston effort was delivered through bipartisan support at City and State level. Now, Houston is seen as the strong example, rather than a particular party. Some things should just be above point scoring. Helping people get their lives back on track is one of them.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 4, 2023 12:54:45 GMT
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Post by elystokie on Nov 4, 2023 12:55:46 GMT
Politicians want (what they see as) the quickest, cheapest possible solution. If they set in motion a program that provides a solution that arrives under someone else's watch it's no good to them. Which is a huge shame. The Houston effort was delivered through bipartisan support at City and State level. Now, Houston is seen as the strong example, rather than a particular party. Some things should just be above point scoring. Helping people get their lives back on track is one of them. It certainly is, they did a successful trial with Heroin Assisted Treatment in Middlesbrough that sounds similar but last I heard their funding had been cut. After 3 years (on average) 85% had quit heroin and got their lives back on track, unfortunately 3 years is seemingly too long a pay back period, no matter that it saves on lives, cost and criminality in the long run.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 4, 2023 13:14:50 GMT
She’s an absolute cunt
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 4, 2023 13:24:45 GMT
Ah, it's foreigners. Of course it is. "A lifestyle choice"? Is that really her words? Surely, not even she is that much of a twat?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2023 13:28:43 GMT
“Lifestyle choice”. Next time I give a homeless person a sandwich, I’ll stop and ask him why he doesn’t just go home and make himself one.
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Post by gawa on Nov 4, 2023 13:35:59 GMT
What options?
Why doesn't she get her fucking finger out, sort her man made asylum backlog crisis and then we can use our hotels for homeless rather than for people from small boats.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Nov 4, 2023 13:58:06 GMT
Ah, it's foreigners. Of course it is. "A lifestyle choice"? Is that really her words? Surely, not even she is that much of a twat? She's also proposing a law to fine charities for providing tempoary shelters such as tents. I actually find her fascinating - she should be studied in a controlled environment to understand what mutation of psychopathy underpins her behaviour. She should not - however - be allowed out without being medicated and under secure supervision.
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Post by wannabee on Nov 4, 2023 14:18:33 GMT
What options? Why doesn't she get her fucking finger out, sort her man made asylum backlog crisis and then we can use our hotels for homeless rather than for people from small boats. I was reluctant to comment on this earlier because it's sometimes difficult to work out what mad things go through Cruella's brain but I suspected it was Immigration at the core In London there are about 10,000 rough sleepers but about 300000 are classed as Homeless in UK Of the 5 Rishi pledges which he is failing miserably on Immigration Triggers Conservative Voters the most. £8M a Day spent on Hotels is a very visible number and there's a limit to the number of people they can fit on barges and no-one is going to Rwanda anytime soon Linked to the conjuring trick is massaging the Asylum Seeker Backlog by bizarrely and arbitrarily decide the number of Asylum Seekers at June 2022 is "Legacy" whose legacy is not explained The target to increase the number of Asylum Assessors to 2500 has been met and they are wading their way through this "Legacy" the vast Majority being Approved albeit rather slowly but in the last few months about 30,000 have been processed. A factor of approval is that an Asylum Seeker has 28 Days to move out of Government provided accommodation - hotels in many cases. An Asylum Seeker can now work and provide for themselves but good luck in finding accommodation at any reasonable rent It's a combined strategy to massage the headline numbers but the visible manifestation may show a different outcome www.ft.com/content/ac0b9531-6d23-48bf-b6de-e118198060f9
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Post by wannabee on Nov 4, 2023 14:34:47 GMT
It's increasingly obvious that the Johnson and Hancock Variants were the biggest danger to people in UK during Covid
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 4, 2023 15:53:38 GMT
Ah, it's foreigners. Of course it is. "A lifestyle choice"? Is that really her words? Surely, not even she is that much of a twat? She's also proposing a law to fine charities for providing tempoary shelters such as tents. I actually find her fascinating - she should be studied in a controlled environment to understand what mutation of psychopathy underpins her behaviour. She should not - however - be allowed out without being medicated and under secure supervision. It is almost a parody, isn't it, like it's a big joke in government. "Let's see how far we can get Suella to go with this stuff. Let's get her to say people are choosing to freeze in a tent rather than take advantage of a warm bed in a hostel somewhere. And we must claim that many of them are foreigners, of course, that'll play well with a certain crowd..."
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 4, 2023 16:32:45 GMT
She's also proposing a law to fine charities for providing tempoary shelters such as tents. I actually find her fascinating - she should be studied in a controlled environment to understand what mutation of psychopathy underpins her behaviour. She should not - however - be allowed out without being medicated and under secure supervision. It is almost a parody, isn't it, like it's a big joke in government. "Let's see how far we can get Suella to go with this stuff. Let's get her to say people are choosing to freeze in a tent rather than take advantage of a warm bed in a hostel somewhere. And we must claim that many of them are foreigners, of course, that'll play well with a certain crowd..." I assume that middle-class campers will be means-tested to ensure they aren’t really rough sleepers posing as wild campers to avoid arrest and what? Deportation? Does Kigali welcome rough-sleepers?
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