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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 19, 2020 20:28:07 GMT
The senseless, incoherent baseless point you made? Thanks caller. Which bit was that shock jock? You seem to have creamed yourself over some dichotomy but strangely wont say what it is. What is it. Who don't you believe?
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Post by Soro's Sorrows on Nov 19, 2020 20:39:32 GMT
Which bit was that shock jock? You seem to have creamed yourself over some dichotomy but strangely wont say what it is. What is it. Who don't you believe? Good god man you are a bore. My post said what the post said, it was a comment on you. it had no mention of belief or disbelief in the tweet. I will leave you take what you most desire, the last word. Enjoy it!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 19, 2020 20:46:05 GMT
You seem to have creamed yourself over some dichotomy but strangely wont say what it is. What is it. Who don't you believe? Good god man you are a bore. My post said what the post said, it was a comment on you. it had no mention of belief or disbelief in the tweet. I will leave you take what you most desire, the last word. Enjoy it! Well what do you believe? Anything? Anything at all?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 19, 2020 21:20:50 GMT
A written fucking warning Its the consistency I like most from your sheiky a previous post you complain about the home office / windrush and link to a story alleging racism now the same departments staff complain about hurty feelings and you want Patel sacked. Which bit don't you believe?
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 20, 2020 8:15:58 GMT
Its the consistency I like most from your sheiky a previous post you complain about the home office / windrush and link to a story alleging racism now the same departments staff complain about hurty feelings and you want Patel sacked. Which bit don't you believe? I believe lifelong civil servants with no experience of working in a real job where you don't get a job for life or guarenteed payrises even if you are piss poor at your job couldn't take being held to account for the first time in their lives by Patel.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 20, 2020 8:46:53 GMT
Which bit don't you believe? I believe lifelong civil servants with no experience of working in a real job where you don't get a job for life or guarenteed payrises even if you are piss poor at your job couldn't take being held to account for the first time in their lives by Patel. Wow. You moral compass is about straight as the Zambezi! Justifying actual bullying now
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 20, 2020 9:03:53 GMT
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Post by foster on Nov 20, 2020 9:16:07 GMT
Lot's of companies are freezing salaries for their employees this year. In the current climate I expect you'd need to be a little insensitive and selfish if you expect a wage increase while others are suffering.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 20, 2020 9:19:09 GMT
Lot's of companies are freezing salaries for their employees this year. In the current climate I expect you'd need to be a little insensitive and selfish if you expect a wage increase while others are suffering. Lets see how wages in certain sectors pan out. I suspect that just like after the banking crisis we will not all be in it quite as together as some would have you believe.
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Post by dutchstokie on Nov 20, 2020 9:24:20 GMT
Youre reading The Guardian sheik ? Youre just a closet tory really arent you !
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 20, 2020 9:25:17 GMT
Lot's of companies are freezing salaries for their employees this year. In the current climate I expect you'd need to be a little insensitive and selfish if you expect a wage increase while others are suffering. MP's refusing their increase or giving it to charity would be a good message of solidarity to all workers in the current climate.....
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Post by foster on Nov 20, 2020 9:25:21 GMT
Lot's of companies are freezing salaries for their employees this year. In the current climate I expect you'd need to be a little insensitive and selfish if you expect a wage increase while others are suffering. Lets see how wages in certain sectors pan out. I suspect that just like after the banking crisis we will not all be in it quite as together as some would have you believe. Yeah, I probably should have mentioned that I fully expect politicians will get their annual bonuses / benefits. But then again, so will all the mega rich that don't seem to be doing their fair share when it comes to supporting their fellow man (or woman).
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Post by dutchstokie on Nov 20, 2020 9:27:16 GMT
Lot's of companies are freezing salaries for their employees this year. In the current climate I expect you'd need to be a little insensitive and selfish if you expect a wage increase while others are suffering. MP's refusing their increase or giving it to charity would be a good message of solidarity to all workers in the current climate..... Youre back !!! Good to see you
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 20, 2020 9:32:53 GMT
Which bit don't you believe? I believe lifelong civil servants with no experience of working in a real job where you don't get a job for life or guarenteed payrises even if you are piss poor at your job couldn't take being held to account for the first time in their lives by Patel. Spoken like a true Tory: absolutely no experience or understanding whatsoever of the actual life and job of a [insert job title here] but fully believes themselves competent to pronounce judgement! Of course, the real underlying position for FYD is that a Tory minister has been found guilty of breaking the ministerial code and he doesn't like it so someone else must take the blame. Always someone else's fault. Usually, in governments which have a degree of competence, self awareness and respect for the public, their own reputation, the process of governance and the civil servants who carry out their (often ill-thought through) ideas, this would result in a resignation. The current incumbents are dragging the status of government to new lows on an almost weekly basis.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 20, 2020 9:33:27 GMT
Lets see how wages in certain sectors pan out. I suspect that just like after the banking crisis we will not all be in it quite as together as some would have you believe. Yeah, I probably should have mentioned that I fully expect politicians will get their annual bonuses / benefits. But then again, so will all the mega rich that don't seem to be doing their fair share when it comes to supporting their fellow man (or woman). Why should they? It's their money.
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Post by Kilo on Nov 20, 2020 9:49:53 GMT
Lets see how wages in certain sectors pan out. I suspect that just like after the banking crisis we will not all be in it quite as together as some would have you believe. Yeah, I probably should have mentioned that I fully expect politicians will get their annual bonuses / benefits. But then again, so will all the mega rich that don't seem to be doing their fair share when it comes to supporting their fellow man (or woman). You obviously have no idea what the 'mega rich' do to support their fellow men but let's not miss out on having a dig at rich people eh? John Caudwell has had loads of stick on here for spending so much money on a house in London (in reality because he's donated to the Tories) and the fact he's generated/donated millions to kids in need along with many other significant donations to businesses and charities in Staffordshire is ignored.
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Post by franklin on Nov 20, 2020 9:54:47 GMT
A written fucking warning Its the consistency I like most from your sheiky a previous post you complain about the home office / windrush and link to a story alleging racism now the same departments staff complain about hurty feelings and you want Patel sacked. Interesting that the report states that civil servants failed to support her work, failed to allow her to push through her changes and dragged their feet and failed to do their jobs. But yes its naughty to shout at them. At least that's was reported on the news last night.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 20, 2020 9:55:57 GMT
Yeah, I probably should have mentioned that I fully expect politicians will get their annual bonuses / benefits. But then again, so will all the mega rich that don't seem to be doing their fair share when it comes to supporting their fellow man (or woman). You obviously have no idea what the 'mega rich' do to support their fellow men but let's not miss out on having a dig at rich people eh? John Caudwell has had loads of stick on here for spending so much money on a house in London (in reality because he's donated to the Tories) and the fact he's generated/donated millions to kids in need along with many other significant donations to businesses and charities in Staffordshire is ignored. Ah, we do love a grand gesture in this country don't we! Forget doing something sensible like seeing how much money is swirling around the country in the hands of a few and doing something to redistribute it to where it's needed, no, we'll leave it to see if anyone feels like donating. The German comic Henning Wehn had a good line,"You do love your charities in this country. I was on Comic Relief the other week, doing my bit. We don't have these things in Germany. We call it paying our taxes!"
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Post by foster on Nov 20, 2020 9:56:49 GMT
Yeah, I probably should have mentioned that I fully expect politicians will get their annual bonuses / benefits. But then again, so will all the mega rich that don't seem to be doing their fair share when it comes to supporting their fellow man (or woman). You obviously have no idea what the 'mega rich' do to support their fellow men but let's not miss out on having a dig at rich people eh? John Caudwell has had loads of stick on here for spending so much money on a house in London (in reality because he's donated to the Tories) and the fact he's generated/donated millions to kids in need along with many other significant donations to businesses and charities in Staffordshire is ignored. You obviously have no moral compass if you believe the mega rich or even footballer rich as a whole, are doing enough to support the struggles of ordinary people. Maybe we both have different ideas on what's humane, or morally correct. I think they could do more and to be honest it sickens me that you think otherwise.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 20, 2020 9:58:33 GMT
You obviously have no idea what the 'mega rich' do to support their fellow men but let's not miss out on having a dig at rich people eh? John Caudwell has had loads of stick on here for spending so much money on a house in London (in reality because he's donated to the Tories) and the fact he's generated/donated millions to kids in need along with many other significant donations to businesses and charities in Staffordshire is ignored. You obviously have no moral compass if you believe the mega rich or even footballer rich as a whole, are doing enough to support the struggles of ordinary people. Maybe we both have different ideas on what's humane, or morally correct. I think they could do more and to be honest it sickens me that you think otherwise. Why should they? It's their money, they can do what they like with it!
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 20, 2020 10:11:14 GMT
I believe lifelong civil servants with no experience of working in a real job where you don't get a job for life or guarenteed payrises even if you are piss poor at your job couldn't take being held to account for the first time in their lives by Patel. Wow. You moral compass is about straight as the Zambezi! Justifying actual bullying now Expecting people to do their jobs is not bullying, no complaints were actually made through proper channels or procedures they all miraculously appeared as soon the chinless wonder civil servant resigned, the old boys network in action.
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Post by Kilo on Nov 20, 2020 10:17:25 GMT
You obviously have no idea what the 'mega rich' do to support their fellow men but let's not miss out on having a dig at rich people eh? John Caudwell has had loads of stick on here for spending so much money on a house in London (in reality because he's donated to the Tories) and the fact he's generated/donated millions to kids in need along with many other significant donations to businesses and charities in Staffordshire is ignored. Ah, we do love a grand gesture in this country don't we! Forget doing something sensible like seeing how much money is swirling around the country in the hands of a few and doing something to redistribute it to where it's needed, no, we'll leave it to see if anyone feels like donating. The German comic Henning Wehn had a good line,"You do love your charities in this country. I was on Comic Relief the other week, doing my bit. We don't have these things in Germany. We call it paying our taxes!" Weird how you see donating fifty million quid as a gesture. I assume you donate most of your income to the needy? I assume all 'rich' people look at ways to maximise their wealth (or at least their accountants do) and I assume that most 'unrich' people do the same. As long as they're not breaking the law I don't see a problem with that even though sometimes I might think they're a bit of a twat - Jimmy Carr springs to mind, but then I'd rather have Jimmy Carr paying some tax than others leaving the UK so they can pay no tax here. A former employer of mine moved to Majorca so he paid no tax here and used up his full 90 days of visiting the UK until he found out he could pay $200,000 to the St. Kitts government for a passport. Now he's in the UK most of the time paying no tax here or there. Now he's a twat of the highest order but then he always was. It doesn't mean all rich people do the same.
As for Henning, sometimes he's very funny, sometimes his humour falls flat but if you take it from his joke that there are no German tax dodgers then you're an idiot.
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Post by Kilo on Nov 20, 2020 10:21:20 GMT
You obviously have no idea what the 'mega rich' do to support their fellow men but let's not miss out on having a dig at rich people eh? John Caudwell has had loads of stick on here for spending so much money on a house in London (in reality because he's donated to the Tories) and the fact he's generated/donated millions to kids in need along with many other significant donations to businesses and charities in Staffordshire is ignored. You obviously have no moral compass if you believe the mega rich or even footballer rich as a whole, are doing enough to support the struggles of ordinary people. Maybe we both have different ideas on what's humane, or morally correct. I think they could do more and to be honest it sickens me that you think otherwise. Wow... so I have no moral compass and all rich people are arseholes. That says more about you than me.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 20, 2020 10:23:24 GMT
The point is, isn't it funny how those countries which pay more tax overall also, generally, have better public services, are generally more content and rely less on these kind of grand gesture type activities.
I recognise that they do help and they also allow people to feel that something is being done, even if it's a drop in the ocean to what could be achieved for everyone in the country through a more mature and less selfish approach to taxation.
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Post by foster on Nov 20, 2020 10:26:33 GMT
You obviously have no moral compass if you believe the mega rich or even footballer rich as a whole, are doing enough to support the struggles of ordinary people. Maybe we both have different ideas on what's humane, or morally correct. I think they could do more and to be honest it sickens me that you think otherwise. Wow... so I have no moral compass and all rich people are arseholes. That says more about you than me. Ok Scrooge. Your needless attacks on others who believe the mega rich could do more for the needy says a hell of a lot about you. Feel free to be as selfish as you want, but don't take it out on others.
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Post by franklin on Nov 20, 2020 10:32:40 GMT
You obviously have no idea what the 'mega rich' do to support their fellow men but let's not miss out on having a dig at rich people eh? John Caudwell has had loads of stick on here for spending so much money on a house in London (in reality because he's donated to the Tories) and the fact he's generated/donated millions to kids in need along with many other significant donations to businesses and charities in Staffordshire is ignored. Ah, we do love a grand gesture in this country don't we! Forget doing something sensible like seeing how much money is swirling around the country in the hands of a few and doing something to redistribute it to where it's needed, no, we'll leave it to see if anyone feels like donating. The German comic Henning Wehn had a good line,"You do love your charities in this country. I was on Comic Relief the other week, doing my bit. We don't have these things in Germany. We call it paying our taxes!" Whilst I understand your point I'd like to clear one thing up in the short time I've spent in Germany they are very proficient at not paying tax, there are plenty of places by that I mean loads that only take cash no cards and thats widely understood and specifically to avoid paying their proper taxes.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 20, 2020 10:36:21 GMT
Wow. You moral compass is about straight as the Zambezi! Justifying actual bullying now Expecting people to do their jobs is not bullying, no complaints were actually made through proper channels or procedures they all miraculously appeared as soon the chinless wonder civil servant resigned, the old boys network in action. Well we'll see when Bozo does the only decent thing and releases the report in full today wont we
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Post by Kilo on Nov 20, 2020 10:40:47 GMT
Wow... so I have no moral compass and all rich people are arseholes. That says more about you than me. Ok Scrooge. Your needless attacks on others who believe the mega rich could do more for the needy says a hell of a lot about you. Feel free to be as selfish as you want, but don't take it out on others. Who have I attacked? You have no idea what the mega rich do for the needy, even my ex-boss donated £20K to Ian Botham's walk which was fantastic (mainly because he didn't want to walk 20 miles with Botham from Birmingham to Clent so I got to do it instead)
All I'm doing is not condemning people who I don't know for something I don't know if they've done or not.
For the record, here's me naming a lifeboat after raising £80,000 to buy it. But you carry on calling me scrooge with no moral compass if it makes you feel better.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 20, 2020 10:41:44 GMT
Ah, we do love a grand gesture in this country don't we! Forget doing something sensible like seeing how much money is swirling around the country in the hands of a few and doing something to redistribute it to where it's needed, no, we'll leave it to see if anyone feels like donating. The German comic Henning Wehn had a good line,"You do love your charities in this country. I was on Comic Relief the other week, doing my bit. We don't have these things in Germany. We call it paying our taxes!" Whilst I understand your point I'd like to clear one thing up in the short time I've spent in Germany they are very proficient at not paying tax, there are plenty of places by that I mean loads that only take cash no cards and thats widely understood and specifically to avoid paying their proper taxes. I've no doubt every country has a grey economy, ours is particularly strong, not surprisingly! I have a lot of personal experience of Germany as well and can tell you that their tax take overall is higher than ours, has been for decades, and their public services are far better. Coincidence? Possibly, but I doubt it.
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Post by foster on Nov 20, 2020 10:47:11 GMT
Ok Scrooge. Your needless attacks on others who believe the mega rich could do more for the needy says a hell of a lot about you. Feel free to be as selfish as you want, but don't take it out on others. Who have I attacked? You have no idea what the mega rich do for the needy, even my ex-boss donated £20K to Ian Botham's walk which was fantastic (mainly because he didn't want to walk 20 miles with Botham from Birmingham to Clent so I got to do it instead)
All I'm doing is not condemning people who I don't know for something I don't know if they've done or not.
For the record, here's me naming a lifeboat after raising £80,000 to buy it. But you carry on calling me scrooge with no moral compass if it make you feel better.
You're getting all uppity with anyone who questions how much the rich (in general) do for the poor. Your original response to me where you basically called me clueless demonstrates that. Maybe in your world the Sheriff of Nottingham is the good guy, but for the vast majority of people he isn't. ps - Good work with the lifeboat.
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