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Post by partickpotter on Oct 21, 2020 18:54:47 GMT
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 21, 2020 21:18:45 GMT
She's factually accurate isn't she........
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 21, 2020 21:29:23 GMT
Local scum
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Oct 21, 2020 21:30:04 GMT
5 backbones were found in the Conservative Members of Parliament today.
£20m/week to feed 1.5m kids during half term.
£60m to cover half term and Christmas.
'A garden bridge-and-a-half to far'
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Post by Davef on Oct 21, 2020 21:35:52 GMT
Every single local MP voted against it. Jack Brereton Jo Gideon Jonathan Gullis Aaron Bell Karen Bradley Never forget.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 21, 2020 21:37:20 GMT
Every single local MP voted against it. Jack Brereton Jo Gideon Jonathan Gullis Aaron Bell Karen Bradley Never forget. Disgusting
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Post by Davef on Oct 21, 2020 21:43:08 GMT
Jo Gideon getting absolutely and deservedly reamed on Twitter.
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Post by lommack on Oct 21, 2020 21:48:19 GMT
Just the start of getting "their money back"
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Post by Davef on Oct 21, 2020 22:00:23 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2020 22:51:47 GMT
Every single local MP voted against it. Jack Brereton Jo Gideon Jonathan Gullis Aaron Bell Karen Bradley Never forget. According to some on here if you voted for these spineless tossers you somehow "won"
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Oct 22, 2020 2:33:13 GMT
Remember when we could get half price pub food the other week? That was a laugh wasn’t it How do these people sleep at night, it’s fucking feeding hungry children ffs! What sort of cunt votes against that
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Post by vokeswagen on Oct 22, 2020 4:47:52 GMT
Johnson has appointed 36 life peers in his first year. 21 conservatives, 1 DUP and 6 Brexit Zealots. One in Claire Fox who is who is a holocaust denying, IRA supporting, child porn defending piece of shit. But no room for Bercow or Sentamu based on "standards" It's an utter farce and not the slightest bit independant. Holocaust denying, IRA supporting... Are you thinking about Jeremy Corbyn and his pals? Does that make him a piece of shit? en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
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Post by vokeswagen on Oct 22, 2020 4:59:36 GMT
“Virtue signalling” used by a Tory MP yesterday. Just waiting for them to call Rashford a Marxist/Trot (“cultural Marxist” counts), woke, and part of the elite to get my full house in dickhead bingo
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Post by yeokel on Oct 22, 2020 8:20:11 GMT
When I was a kid at primary school my younger brother and I were on 'free school meals' for about three years. I don't remember those meals extending in to school holidays though. I don't remember them having to open up the school kitchens (along with the rest of the school) to serve us and make sure we had a 'proper meal'. And I don't particularly remember the Labour government of the time suggesting that they should be doing this, or coming under any pressure about the issue. (admitedly I was young at the time so might have missed some of these arguments)
When did schools become social services? I'm not against helping poor families feed their children properly but why must it be done through "free school meals"? Isn't this extending the role and responsibilities of a school too far?
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Post by lommack on Oct 22, 2020 8:45:32 GMT
When I was a kid at primary school my younger brother and I were on 'free school meals' for about three years. I don't remember those meals extending in to school holidays though. I don't remember them having to open up the school kitchens (along with the rest of the school) to serve us and make sure we had a 'proper meal'. And I don't particularly remember the Labour government of the time suggesting that they should be doing this, or coming under any pressure about the issue. (admitedly I was young at the time so might have missed some of these arguments)
When did schools become social services? I'm not against helping poor families feed their children properly but why must it be done through "free school meals"? Isn't this extending the role and responsibilities of a school too far? Do you remember a pandemic?
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Post by yeokel on Oct 22, 2020 8:53:35 GMT
When I was a kid at primary school my younger brother and I were on 'free school meals' for about three years. I don't remember those meals extending in to school holidays though. I don't remember them having to open up the school kitchens (along with the rest of the school) to serve us and make sure we had a 'proper meal'. And I don't particularly remember the Labour government of the time suggesting that they should be doing this, or coming under any pressure about the issue. (admitedly I was young at the time so might have missed some of these arguments)
When did schools become social services? I'm not against helping poor families feed their children properly but why must it be done through "free school meals"? Isn't this extending the role and responsibilities of a school too far? Do you remember a pandemic? No, but I don't really see the connection.
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Post by partickpotter on Oct 22, 2020 9:02:32 GMT
When I was a kid at primary school my younger brother and I were on 'free school meals' for about three years. I don't remember those meals extending in to school holidays though. I don't remember them having to open up the school kitchens (along with the rest of the school) to serve us and make sure we had a 'proper meal'. And I don't particularly remember the Labour government of the time suggesting that they should be doing this, or coming under any pressure about the issue. (admitedly I was young at the time so might have missed some of these arguments)
When did schools become social services? I'm not against helping poor families feed their children properly but why must it be done through "free school meals"? Isn't this extending the role and responsibilities of a school too far? This is the argument the Tories are making - the welfare of children out of school is an issue for welfare benefits and social services. It is a reasonable argument.
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Post by maxplonk on Oct 22, 2020 9:18:29 GMT
Do you remember a pandemic? No, but I don't really see the connection. Can you compare the time when you were on FSM with today's society?
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Post by maxplonk on Oct 22, 2020 9:19:05 GMT
When I was a kid at primary school my younger brother and I were on 'free school meals' for about three years. I don't remember those meals extending in to school holidays though. I don't remember them having to open up the school kitchens (along with the rest of the school) to serve us and make sure we had a 'proper meal'. And I don't particularly remember the Labour government of the time suggesting that they should be doing this, or coming under any pressure about the issue. (admitedly I was young at the time so might have missed some of these arguments)
When did schools become social services? I'm not against helping poor families feed their children properly but why must it be done through "free school meals"? Isn't this extending the role and responsibilities of a school too far? This is the argument the Tories are making - the welfare of children out of school is an issue for welfare benefits and social services. It is a reasonable argument. Do you think hungry kids care about where their food comes from?
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Post by yeokel on Oct 22, 2020 9:26:09 GMT
No, but I don't really see the connection. Can you compare the time when you were on FSM with today's society? No I can't. But you seem to be missing the point. I am suggesting that it is outside the responsibility of the school to provide meals for children outside of school time and that it must surely be down to 'social services' to do this if the parent(s) cannot or will not. It seems to be the assumption on here that these evil Tory MPs are voting against this because they wish to see the children starve, or they have some other equally illogical motivation, but surely they are voting against it because it is not the duty of a school, but of a local authority as Partick seems to point out above?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 22, 2020 9:29:44 GMT
When I was a kid at primary school my younger brother and I were on 'free school meals' for about three years. I don't remember those meals extending in to school holidays though. I don't remember them having to open up the school kitchens (along with the rest of the school) to serve us and make sure we had a 'proper meal'. And I don't particularly remember the Labour government of the time suggesting that they should be doing this, or coming under any pressure about the issue. (admitedly I was young at the time so might have missed some of these arguments)
When did schools become social services? I'm not against helping poor families feed their children properly but why must it be done through "free school meals"? Isn't this extending the role and responsibilities of a school too far? This is the argument the Tories are making - the welfare of children out of school is an issue for welfare benefits and social services. It is a reasonable argument. So reasonable, they're planning to remove the £20 uplift to Universal Credit next month at a time when unemployment is soaring. To call Rashford's campaign virtue signalling as one vile creature yesterday sums them up They don't give a flying fuck and people are slowly cottoning on.
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Post by foster on Oct 22, 2020 9:30:25 GMT
If there are so many families out there unable to feed their kids, and food banks being more widely used yet also being shut down, then there are more serious issues to consider than just providing kids meals throughout the holidays.
Questions need to asked about where the country is headed and what the longer terms plans are to stem poverty.
Fat cat populist politicians making a living of duping people and bickering over past events that have no impact on the situation we're currently in. Then dragging out Brexit and fucking up the COVID situation to keep peoples attention from what's really important.
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Post by lommack on Oct 22, 2020 9:34:35 GMT
Is it just English kids who need to go hungry?
Levelling up?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 22, 2020 9:40:16 GMT
Is it just English kids who need to go hungry? Levelling up? Mainly Northern English kids.
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Post by maxplonk on Oct 22, 2020 9:49:54 GMT
Can you compare the time when you were on FSM with today's society? No I can't. But you seem to be missing the point. I am suggesting that it is outside the responsibility of the school to provide meals for children outside of school time and that it must surely be down to 'social services' to do this if the parent(s) cannot or will not. It seems to be the assumption on here that these evil Tory MPs are voting against this because they wish to see the children starve, or they have some other equally illogical motivation, but surely they are voting against it because it is not the duty of a school, but of a local authority as Partick seems to point out above? Fair enough. I would argue that it is a duty of society to ensure that people, especially children do not starve (a word which originally meant "to die", by the way).It remains to be seen whether local authorities will be able to fulfill that duty over the next six months or so given the current situation. As I suggested to Partick, the kids don't care who provides their food (nor should they). It seems that in other parts of the UK (eg Wales) the project will be continued until Easter of next year - and schools do have the necessary facilities.
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Post by partickpotter on Oct 22, 2020 9:50:07 GMT
This is the argument the Tories are making - the welfare of children out of school is an issue for welfare benefits and social services. It is a reasonable argument. So reasonable, they're planning to remove the £20 uplift to Universal Credit next month at a time when unemployment is soaring. To call Rashford's campaign virtue signalling as one vile creature yesterday sums them up They don't give a flying fuck and people are slowly cottoning on. I understood that uplift was introduced as a temporary Covid measure and is in place to April 2021 - leastways that is how the Independent is reporting the situation. So plenty of time left in the tank for that. In the meantime, I guess you’ll be welcoming some actual news on Universal Credit; Universal Credit is changing the rules for claiming money in November.. . The change will see tens of thousands of claimants' payments rise, as the Department for Work and Pensions has finally addressed an "unfair" loophole that's cost workers thousands. Btw, I do agree with you about the language used by that MP yesterday. Rashford is certainly not virtue signalling. A whole bunch of people supporting him certainly are though. People like you.
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Post by partickpotter on Oct 22, 2020 9:58:10 GMT
If there are so many families out there unable to feed their kids, and food banks being more widely used yet also being shut down, then there are more serious issues to consider than just providing kids meals throughout the holidays. Questions need to asked about where the country is headed and what the longer terms plans are to stem poverty. Fat cat populist politicians making a living of duping people and bickering over past events that have no impact on the situation we're currently in. Then dragging out Brexit and fucking up the COVID situation to keep peoples attention from what's really important. Indeed. We might want to have a meaningful discussion on another more widespread issue related to poverty and diet as described in this report from a couple of years ago... Poverty and childhood obesity: a 21st century role reversal. I remember Diane Abbott talking on this subject on Any Questions a good few years ago complaining about how the debate on food banks pushed the problem of childhood obesity in children from poor backgrounds into the margins. She, at that time, felt very strongly on this topic. In her view that was a much more serious issue affecting many more people.
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Post by lommack on Oct 22, 2020 9:58:45 GMT
"We don't want to nationalise children"
Levelling up?
What about "eat out for covid" where the wealthiest got subsidised dinners?
Leveling up?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 22, 2020 10:00:37 GMT
So reasonable, they're planning to remove the £20 uplift to Universal Credit next month at a time when unemployment is soaring. To call Rashford's campaign virtue signalling as one vile creature yesterday sums them up They don't give a flying fuck and people are slowly cottoning on. I understood that uplift was introduced as a temporary Covid measure and is in place to April 2021 - leastways that is how the Independent is reporting the situation. So plenty of time left in the tank for that. In the meantime, I guess you’ll be welcoming some actual news on Universal Credit; Universal Credit is changing the rules for claiming money in November.. . The change will see tens of thousands of claimants' payments rise, as the Department for Work and Pensions has finally addressed an "unfair" loophole that's cost workers thousands. Btw, I do agree with you about the language used by that MP yesterday. Rashford is certainly not virtue signalling. A whole bunch of people supporting him certainly are though. People like you. So giving people in low paid jobs money they've been denied via a loophole is a cause of celebration now! They've worked a right number these vermin haven't they.
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Post by partickpotter on Oct 22, 2020 10:27:49 GMT
I understood that uplift was introduced as a temporary Covid measure and is in place to April 2021 - leastways that is how the Independent is reporting the situation. So plenty of time left in the tank for that. In the meantime, I guess you’ll be welcoming some actual news on Universal Credit; Universal Credit is changing the rules for claiming money in November.. . The change will see tens of thousands of claimants' payments rise, as the Department for Work and Pensions has finally addressed an "unfair" loophole that's cost workers thousands. Btw, I do agree with you about the language used by that MP yesterday. Rashford is certainly not virtue signalling. A whole bunch of people supporting him certainly are though. People like you. So giving people in low paid jobs money they've been denied via a loophole is a cause of celebration now! They've worked a right number these vermin haven't they. Fixing something that ain’t right is a good thing. Calling people vermin is not.
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