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Post by partickpotter on Nov 6, 2019 6:41:53 GMT
This Government has now ended.
Not the most shambolic Government of all time - any of the Tory or Labour administrations in the 70s beat it hands down - but arguably the most shambolic Parliament ever.
Good riddance.
(Btw - I do have more confidence that the coming Parliament will get Brexit done one way or another)
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Post by thisisouryear on Nov 6, 2019 7:09:09 GMT
The Tories are such a disgusting party, i hope they blow this election and Labour get in. If the Cons and the Brexit party have any sort of control after the general election then the country is screwed. Right wing nut jobs don't give a shit about ordinary people.
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Post by bathstoke on Nov 6, 2019 7:12:04 GMT
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 6, 2019 8:08:27 GMT
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Post by zerps on Nov 6, 2019 8:11:04 GMT
So it’s a choice between a bunch of cunts and a bunch of cunts. Why aren’t we rioting again? It looks like that is the choice doesn't it! I have always been centre right purely because I believe the right always does better with the economy but the right has gone too far right and the left has gone too far left, the centre is very opaque at the moment. Struggling to find a worthy vote candidate Exactly. People are arguing between themselves trying to defend one bunch of corrupt twats over another. Grown ups actually believe that these people want to make a difference. Insanity.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 6, 2019 8:30:50 GMT
It looks like that is the choice doesn't it! I have always been centre right purely because I believe the right always does better with the economy but the right has gone too far right and the left has gone too far left, the centre is very opaque at the moment. Struggling to find a worthy vote candidate Exactly. People are arguing between themselves trying to defend one bunch of corrupt twats over another. Grown ups actually believe that these people want to make a difference. Insanity. Said similar on another thread. Party loyalty comes first for many. Just ignore the fact that politicians have shat on a democratic decision for over 3 years. They are all piss takers and the majority of the country falls for their shit again and again. I actually think Labour will get in by default because people have given up on Brexit, and the Tories are already imploding. Then we'll see what they are like in government. It's easy to criticise from the sidelines. Judging by their front bench, I think they will be disastrous, even though some of their policies are OK. But this idea that they are the champions of the working class, when they have ignored them and their concerns for years, is laughable.
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 6, 2019 8:31:22 GMT
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 6, 2019 8:31:46 GMT
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Post by zerps on Nov 6, 2019 9:04:56 GMT
Exactly. People are arguing between themselves trying to defend one bunch of corrupt twats over another. Grown ups actually believe that these people want to make a difference. Insanity. Said similar on another thread. Party loyalty comes first for many. Just ignore the fact that politicians have shat on a democratic decision for over 3 years. They are all piss takers and the majority of the country falls for their shit again and again. I actually think Labour will get in by default because people have given up on Brexit, and the Tories are already imploding. Then we'll see what they are like in government. It's easy to criticise from the sidelines. Judging by their front bench, I think they will be disastrous, even though some of their policies are OK. But this idea that they are the champions of the working class, when they have ignored them and their concerns for years, is laughable. Well said. Politicians divide the people so they can control them. It’s so outdated in the modern world, yet people still believe in posh crooks they’ll never meet.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Nov 6, 2019 13:21:45 GMT
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 6, 2019 16:51:01 GMT
Johnson caught lying again
"we did not want an election"
the same Johnson who asked parliament 4 times for an election
the same Johnson who said "your to frit and a chlorinated chicken " to corbyn for not agreeing to an election.
there's lies dam lies and Johnson!!
time to get these liars out of government! you cant believe a word they say!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 23:29:39 GMT
Scottish Conservative MP says on Question Time “Boris Johnson cares about Scotland”
The whole of the audience burst out laughing in response.....
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 8, 2019 8:08:25 GMT
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 8, 2019 8:16:13 GMT
Remind me again which government was in power when the Stafford Hospital scandal was going on.
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Post by serpico on Nov 8, 2019 8:25:38 GMT
There will be lots more where that came from if Labour get in and spend / borrow us into oblivion, you’ll be lucky to get on a trolley after a few years of a Labour government.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 8, 2019 8:32:04 GMT
There will be lots more where that came from if Labour get in and spend / borrow us into oblivion, you’ll be lucky to get on a trolley after a few years of a Labour government. Yeah right.
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Post by serpico on Nov 8, 2019 8:46:55 GMT
There will be lots more where that came from if Labour get in and spend / borrow us into oblivion, you’ll be lucky to get on a trolley after a few years of a Labour government. Yeah right. don't get me wrong, the honeymoon period of a labour government will will be great, a bit like going out on the town and getting rat arsed, but sooner or later you wake up with a raging headache and an empty wallet. The NHS is systemically flawed, its the reason why its constantly in crisis, it has little to do with money.
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Post by Northy on Nov 8, 2019 9:16:02 GMT
which labour run NHS employs a cost cutter at £2000 a day and can work from a holiday home in Marbella, and one of his proposals is to cut nurses pay ?
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Post by Northy on Nov 8, 2019 9:32:10 GMT
This shouldn't happen to anyone, but yet another NHS trust struggling along with it's PFI hindrance, it's only managing a £2.6 billion PFI legacy, a planned merger with another trust was cancelled as the 2nd trust didn't want to inherit this PFI millstone. A trust that had nurses cleaning after the Carillion cleaners were supposed to have cleaned the wards. PFI's, Blairs legacy that is hindering the NHS for 30 years.
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 8, 2019 9:33:24 GMT
Johnson caught lying again"we did not want an election" the same Johnson who asked parliament 4 times for an election the same Johnson who said "your to frit and a chlorinated chicken " to corbyn for not agreeing to an election. there's lies dam lies and Johnson!! time to get these liars out of government! you cant believe a word they say!! I refuse to believe anyone is that stupid to post the above and believe it, I think your not a Corbyn fan schtick takes disingenuousity to a new level did you even listen to the speech where he then explains why he believes there has to be one paralysed parliament blocking brexit etc etc etc But if we are to play your game arent Labour even bigger liars 37 times Corbyn asked for an election 3 times was it he voted against it when given the chance.....
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 8, 2019 12:16:35 GMT
Johnson caught lying again"we did not want an election" the same Johnson who asked parliament 4 times for an election the same Johnson who said "your to frit and a chlorinated chicken " to corbyn for not agreeing to an election. there's lies dam lies and Johnson!! time to get these liars out of government! you cant believe a word they say!! I refuse to believe anyone is that stupid to post the above and believe it, I think your not a Corbyn fan schtick takes disingenuousity to a new level did you even listen to the speech where he then explains why he believes there has to be one paralysed parliament blocking brexit etc etc etc But if we are to play your game arent Labour even bigger liars 37 times Corbyn asked for an election 3 times was it he voted against it when given the chance..... Yep and ask your self this why did he refuse those 3 times and why did all opposition parties and former conservatives not vote for an election when they wanted one? the reason was that they could not trust Johnson to change the date and crash us out of the eu without a deal!! which would have been devastating for our businesses!!(there words not mine) he waited till no deal was off the table and the situation of an extension had been agreed like all other parties! The legislation that passed to create a general election had a fixed date and could not be changed by Johnson unlike if they had done it under the fixed term parliament act! As you cant trust a proven liar like Johnson corbyn and the opposition parties did the right thing. If as you say Johnson did not want an election before Christmas why was it he and the government that brought the bill forward?? he is frit and a chlorinated chicken that the result will go against him!! he's potentially doing the chicken run as he cant defend a 5000 majority in his own constituency showing the yellow streak that he is known for! The bloke is a proven liar, racist, self publicist, thst needs to be rooted out of power !!
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 8, 2019 12:58:09 GMT
I refuse to believe anyone is that stupid to post the above and believe it, I think your not a Corbyn fan schtick takes disingenuousity to a new level did you even listen to the speech where he then explains why he believes there has to be one paralysed parliament blocking brexit etc etc etc But if we are to play your game arent Labour even bigger liars 37 times Corbyn asked for an election 3 times was it he voted against it when given the chance..... Yep and ask your self this why did he refuse those 3 times and why did all opposition parties and former conservatives not vote for an election when they wanted one? the reason was that they could not trust Johnson to change the date and crash us out of the eu without a deal!! which would have been devastating for our businesses!!(there words not mine) he waited till no deal was off the table and the situation of an extension had been agreed like all other parties! The legislation that passed to create a general election had a fixed date and could not be changed by Johnson unlike if they had done it under the fixed term parliament act! As you cant trust a proven liar like Johnson corbyn and the opposition parties did the right thing. If as you say Johnson did not want an election before Christmas why was it he and the government that brought the bill forward?? he is frit and a chlorinated chicken that the result will go against him!! he's potentially doing the chicken run as he cant defend a 5000 majority in his own constituency showing the yellow streak that he is known for! The bloke is a proven liar, racist, self publicist, thst needs to be rooted out of power !! No deal is not off the table it never will be till a deal is signed and agreed, it was 37 times they asked for it then didnt vote for it because they want to stop Brexit and thought delay was the way. I have answered about the election now either say you dont agree, offer a different argument but FFS at least show you understand. Parliament said they wanted a deal without the backstop they then voted against it, all parliament wanted was delay and delay if they had tried to be constructive they would not be an election but they just wanted to vote again on customs unions, referendums etc that they voted down many times all because Bercow broke precedence to take power from the executive.
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Post by Northy on Nov 8, 2019 17:09:34 GMT
I refuse to believe anyone is that stupid to post the above and believe it, I think your not a Corbyn fan schtick takes disingenuousity to a new level did you even listen to the speech where he then explains why he believes there has to be one paralysed parliament blocking brexit etc etc etc But if we are to play your game arent Labour even bigger liars 37 times Corbyn asked for an election 3 times was it he voted against it when given the chance..... Yep and ask your self this why did he refuse those 3 times and why did all opposition parties and former conservatives not vote for an election when they wanted one? the reason was that they could not trust Johnson to change the date and crash us out of the eu without a deal!! which would have been devastating for our businesses!!( *there words not mine) he waited till no deal was off the table and the situation of an extension had been agreed like all other parties! The legislation that passed to create a general election had a fixed date and could not be changed by Johnson unlike if they had done it under the fixed term parliament act! As you cant trust a proven liar like Johnson corbyn and the opposition parties did the right thing. If as you say Johnson did not want an election before Christmas why was it he and the government that brought the bill forward?? he is frit and a chlorinated chicken that the result will go against him!! he's potentially doing the chicken run as he cant defend a 5000 majority in his own constituency showing the yellow streak that he is known for! The bloke is a proven liar, racist, self publicist, thst needs to be rooted out of power !! *their You do know they use words like 'crash out' and 'devastating' as it scares people to believe their side of the story don't you? They were just playing anti democratic party politics, party before the electorate and country.
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 8, 2019 17:18:56 GMT
Ah that old chestnut Just to add to the conversation I watched my mother die on a hospital trolley for seven hours with not a ounce of dignity at all The government in charge labour Which is one of the main reasons I will never vote for them hypocrites
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2019 22:10:46 GMT
The Tories calling Corbyn out on his numbers, whilst simultaneously highlighting just how inept they are...
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 11, 2019 9:45:41 GMT
UK growth slowest in almost a decade, says ONS
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 11, 2019 9:51:54 GMT
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Post by bathstoke on Nov 11, 2019 10:33:45 GMT
What’s so astounding about how utterly shambolic this government is, is how there is no difference in their inadequacy to rule & our state of purdah. They have been completely redundant. In truth they’ve been worse than redundant, because they’ve done more harm than good. We’d have been better of as a nation without them & these people state that they’re the patriotic party!
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Post by Northy on Nov 11, 2019 12:21:09 GMT
UK growth slowest in almost a decade, says ONS Have a think about that and why aren't companies investing at the moment? I don't suppose it's because we have a bunch of lying deceitful MP's in the HoP and they can't make a decision one way or another ?
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Post by Northy on Nov 11, 2019 12:22:21 GMT
which labour run NHS employs a cost cutter at £2000 a day and can work from a holiday home in Marbella, and one of his proposals is to cut nurses pay ? As sheik didn't answer, I'll answer, it's the labour run NHS who pasy somebody £2000 a day to suggest cutting nurses pay. For the few not the many isn't it?
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