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Post by foster on Sept 24, 2019 14:30:31 GMT
Why are labour supporters and activists everywhere not calling for an election? Because they know they will get trounced Labour have betrayed their core vote and they are hoping that the tories will turn out unelectable. The tories have been a fucking disaster since May called a GE and still it’s not disastrous enough for Corbyn to think he can win. They haven't called one because they don't need to. It doesn't serve their interests at this time. It's an unnecessary risk and they are best suited just letting Boris implode.
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Post by canadianmoose on Sept 24, 2019 14:35:19 GMT
Corbyn is just like Neil Kinnock. No matter how bad everyone else screws up, there wont be a labour government whilst he is in charge.
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Post by Eggybread on Sept 24, 2019 14:47:07 GMT
And we think Nathan Jones is having a nightmare!
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Post by yeokel on Sept 24, 2019 15:15:15 GMT
I can see a few things happening tomorrow but nothing would surprise me know 1) members of the cabinet will quit 2) conservative mp's will resign and either become independent or join opposition groups 3) a potential call of no confidence if Boris does not resign Let's take a look at your options... 1) members of the cabinet will quitSome may, but only a very few if any. I would suspect that none of the big hitters will. 2) conservative mp's will resign and either become independent or join opposition groupsAnyone that is going to do that has already done it in my opinion. The rest will just hang on in there and keep banking the salary cheques. 3) a potential call of no confidence if Boris does not resignAnd then what? The opposition are shit scared of an election, we already know that. If BJ resigns, resulting in an inevitable delay to Brexit, who will get the blame? The press would try to blame BJ, most thinking people would know where the blame should truly lie. And then BJ would win the subsequent election, it's then back to square one except he (and the country) is in an even weaker position than he/we are now. If not the above, how would you see things panning out Essex?
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Post by yeokel on Sept 24, 2019 15:18:46 GMT
Why are labour supporters and activists everywhere not calling for an election? Because they know they will get trounced Labour have betrayed their core vote and they are hoping that the tories will turn out unelectable. The tories have been a fucking disaster since May called a GE and still it’s not disastrous enough for Corbyn to think he can win. They haven't called one because they don't need to. It doesn't serve their interests at this time. It's an unnecessary risk and they are best suited just letting Boris implode. Are their interests not the country's interests? If they think the country would be better served by a Labour government surely it is their duty to pursue that with all haste?
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Post by foster on Sept 24, 2019 15:24:08 GMT
They haven't called one because they don't need to. It doesn't serve their interests at this time. It's an unnecessary risk and they are best suited just letting Boris implode. Are their interests not the country's interests? If they think the country would be better served by a Labour government surely it is their duty to pursue that with all haste? No. Not at all. Why rush into a GE and lose. If there is a GE they want to win. The best chance of that is letting Boris defeat himself first.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 24, 2019 15:28:03 GMT
There'll be an election in November after Johnson (if he's still there) has made an anus of himself by asking for an extension.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 24, 2019 15:29:25 GMT
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Post by yeokel on Sept 24, 2019 15:35:00 GMT
Are their interests not the country's interests? If they think the country would be better served by a Labour government surely it is their duty to pursue that with all haste? No. Not at all. Why rush into a GE and lose. If there is a GE they want to win. The best chance of that is letting Boris defeat himself first. Do you think that they think they would lose at the moment?
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 24, 2019 15:48:00 GMT
There'll be an election in November after Johnson (if he's still there) has made an anus of himself by asking for an extension. I can't see Johnson asking for an extension. More likely is someone else in #10 doing the asking. But who?
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 24, 2019 15:53:06 GMT
There'll be an election in November after Johnson (if he's still there) has made an anus of himself by asking for an extension. I can't see Johnson asking for an extension. More likely is someone else in #10 doing the asking. But who? Gove. He's despicable enough.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 24, 2019 15:55:41 GMT
Nice to see Jezza is trusting the people now. Honour the fucking vote then, no need for a second referendum. I don't trust him or any of the fuckers with anything, and I mean from any party.
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 24, 2019 15:57:19 GMT
I can't see Johnson asking for an extension. More likely is someone else in #10 doing the asking. But who? Gove. He's despicable enough. It won't be someone from the current government. It will be either Corbyn or one of Clarke or Harman.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 24, 2019 16:03:43 GMT
Gove. He's despicable enough. It won't be someone from the current government. It will be either Corbyn or one of Clarke or Harman. I remember voting for that!
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 24, 2019 16:05:52 GMT
It won't be someone from the current government. It will be either Corbyn or one of Clarke or Harman. I remember voting for that! Well - that's democracy for you. Everyone votes... and Germany win.
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Post by Northy on Sept 24, 2019 16:06:02 GMT
he asked for an election twice, so you had the chance to vote him out, but your lot chickened out, again and again, what does that say about them ? In any case, BJ is a liar and a cheat, both at work and in his private life. I don't really care if people vote for him or not, but he really is an immoral prick. I'd have more respect for people who acknowledge his character but admit they're voting for him purely to leave. Rather than deflecting any Boris criticism just because they're voting for him. they are all liars and cheats, well almost all of them, he is one of them, but he wants to end that impasse and a lot of people will vote for him just to get it over the line. I'll ignore the other post that has name calling and italics in from you know who.
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 24, 2019 16:19:13 GMT
So the majority thought he hadn’t acted unlawfully
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 24, 2019 16:28:00 GMT
So the majority thought he hadn’t acted unlawfully
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 24, 2019 16:29:50 GMT
So the majority thought he hadn’t acted unlawfully Quite simple if 49% thought he had acted unlawfully then 51% did not
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 24, 2019 16:32:18 GMT
Quite simple if 49% thought he had acted unlawfully then 51% did not No 30% said he didn't, as it says!
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Post by lordb on Sept 24, 2019 16:33:45 GMT
Why are labour supporters and activists everywhere not calling for an election? Because it was utterly transparent that Boris would move the election date till after 31 October thus ensuring a no deal Brexit.
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 24, 2019 16:35:09 GMT
Quite simple if 49% thought he had acted unlawfully then 51% did not No 30% said he didn't, as it says! But fifty one % didn’t think he had
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Post by salopstick on Sept 24, 2019 16:35:32 GMT
Quite simple if 49% thought he had acted unlawfully then 51% did not No 30% said he didn't, as it says! So 21% actually said the truth by stating they didn’t know?
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Post by followyoudown on Sept 24, 2019 16:36:05 GMT
Quite simple if 49% thought he had acted unlawfully then 51% did not No 30% said he didn't, as it says! Nope waga is right if 21% said dont know they did not say he had acted unlawfully #remainmaths
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Post by followyoudown on Sept 24, 2019 16:38:14 GMT
There'll be an election in November after Johnson (if he's still there) has made an anus of himself by asking for an extension. He only has to ask for an extension if he doesnt bring a deal back for parliament to vote on.
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Post by followyoudown on Sept 24, 2019 16:40:05 GMT
Why are labour supporters and activists everywhere not calling for an election? Because it was utterly transparent that Boris would move the election date till after 31 October thus ensuring a no deal Brexit. Thats just nonsense they could have bought a 1 line bill in to fix the date of the election.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 24, 2019 18:10:48 GMT
Fuck me there's some loose definitions of democracy and maths on this board!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 24, 2019 18:14:20 GMT
There'll be an election in November after Johnson (if he's still there) has made an anus of himself by asking for an extension. He only has to ask for an extension if he doesnt bring a deal back for parliament to vote on. I suppose that depends on whether the blazing hypocrite has the brass neck to just change the font on the Theresa May deal and call the backstop something else because that's the only deal he's bringing back.
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Post by Kenilworth_Stokies on Sept 24, 2019 18:20:28 GMT
Three successive Conservative PMs have now made a right hash of the job. Cameron, May and now Johnson. Their conclusion? It's all the fault of the judges, the mainstream media, Luxembourg, 'remoaners', Jeremy Corbyn, some more judges, the weather, inauspicious tea leaves, the wrong kind of snow.... etc. etc.... When will they take ownership of this unworkable Brexit mess they have paralysed our country with for three years? Think you need to check your PM's especially the last one !! Fair point! Corrected.
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Post by essexstokey on Sept 24, 2019 18:28:51 GMT
And still no roger has conservative general office not told him what to say yet or is he still hiding under his stone!!
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