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Post by mattyd on Feb 13, 2019 20:15:17 GMT
More like Hyper Bollocks. But as always you do stand your corner well, even though you are deluded. Be honest now, would you prefer a more voter friendly leader than the unelectable clown you have now. is this a question to the tory supporters?? Not sure if you have been abducted Joey, or too much prosecco, but our leader is not unelectable. Having said that though, glad she is going after Brexit, then we can get back to running the country, by which time Paddy El Corbynski will be a distant memory.
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Post by Northy on Feb 13, 2019 20:31:59 GMT
as if I couldn't hate this useless inept government any more than I already do,the omission of making Gordon banks a sir in the new years honours list makes my blood boil.GORDON BANKS should have been knighted a long time ago but has been constantly overlooked its a national disgrace and now we have lost the great man and he will never receive the honour he so richly deserved. Why didn't labour give him a knighthood ? Too busy giving them away for cash ? www.theguardian.com/politics/2007/oct/11/partyfunding.uk
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Post by 3putts on Feb 14, 2019 3:31:27 GMT
as if I couldn't hate this useless inept government any more than I already do,the omission of making Gordon banks a sir in the new years honours list makes my blood boil.GORDON BANKS should have been knighted a long time ago but has been constantly overlooked its a national disgrace and now we have lost the great man and he will never receive the honour he so richly deserved. Why didn't labour give him a knighthood ? Too busy giving them away for cash ? www.theguardian.com/politics/2007/oct/11/partyfunding.ukthat's rich[sic] coming from a tory
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Post by Northy on Feb 14, 2019 6:09:43 GMT
that's rich[sic] coming from a tory You didn't answer the question. So why didn't labour give him a knighthood ? I've told you before, I haven't voted Tory in quite a while, I'm not blinkered to one party.
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 14, 2019 6:30:21 GMT
as if I couldn't hate this useless inept government any more than I already do,the omission of making Gordon banks a sir in the new years honours list makes my blood boil.GORDON BANKS should have been knighted a long time ago but has been constantly overlooked its a national disgrace and now we have lost the great man and he will never receive the honour he so richly deserved. Why didn't labour give him a knighthood ? Too busy giving them away for cash ? www.theguardian.com/politics/2007/oct/11/partyfunding.ukHe didn’t want one
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Post by harryburrows on Feb 14, 2019 6:36:36 GMT
Brexit doubts leave firms 'hung out to dry' linkPolice shortages: 'Working alone left me with PTSD' linkGovernment sued over no-deal ferry contracts linkYet more and more articles about this incompetent government !! I find it quite amusing that university’s are struggling now they are are charging nine grand a year The Samantha’s and Tarquins of this world are suddenly demanding that they actually get an education instead of sitting on there arse's being indoctrinated by some left wing loon There are to many universities fact And the vice chancellors sitting on £500k + PA. remuneration packages
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Post by Northy on Feb 14, 2019 7:31:29 GMT
Yes he did, and he should have had one, it recently came to light his application had got lost and a new one was being submitted. But that's not really the point I was making, 3putts once again thinking that political life started in 2015 when the Tories came to power and all things before it never existed.
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Post by essexstokey on Feb 14, 2019 10:53:12 GMT
A&E waits at worst level for 15 yearslink
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 14, 2019 11:02:49 GMT
This police numbers stuff is just nonsense. It's a legacy of your old pal Tony Blair. Blair, of course was high on rhetoric and low on policy. One example being "Tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime". Because he had no idea what that meant in reality and what he should, do, he decided to embark on a massive recruitment drive into the police force at the same time as crime (generally) was falling. Since then, numbers have been falling to bring it into line with what had been seen as an acceptable level of employment before Blair's interjection. I thing I'm more prone to believe Chief Constables and on the ground officers around the country who now simply don't investigate crime and have 'no go ' areas in inner cities because of cuts and the consequences of austerity.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 14, 2019 12:09:22 GMT
A&E waits at worst level for 15 yearslink I wonder why?
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 14, 2019 12:13:00 GMT
This police numbers stuff is just nonsense. It's a legacy of your old pal Tony Blair. Blair, of course was high on rhetoric and low on policy. One example being "Tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime". Because he had no idea what that meant in reality and what he should, do, he decided to embark on a massive recruitment drive into the police force at the same time as crime (generally) was falling. Since then, numbers have been falling to bring it into line with what had been seen as an acceptable level of employment before Blair's interjection. I thing I'm more prone to believe Chief Constables and on the ground officers around the country who now simply don't investigate crime and have 'no go ' areas in inner cities because of cuts and the consequences of austerity. I admire your faith in the leaders of these organisations.
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Post by essexstokey on Feb 14, 2019 20:25:09 GMT
Brexit: Theresa May suffers fresh Commons defeat link
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Post by essexstokey on Feb 15, 2019 17:46:49 GMT
12 angry ministers could quit Theresa May's cabinet if she won't delay Brexit link
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 15, 2019 17:51:30 GMT
12 angry ministers could quit Theresa May's cabinet if she won't delay Brexit linkAnd !!!!, she's useless the alternative if that is what it is even worse, how ironic is it that we have a staunch remainer as PM delivering Brexit(in name only) and a staunch life long anti EU campaigner and man of principal in the opposition fighting to remain.
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 15, 2019 17:52:23 GMT
12 angry ministers could quit Theresa May's cabinet if she won't delay Brexit linkFucking good they can resign and replace them with ministers that want to leave And deliver on there manifesto pledge which the whole shower of shit stood on
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 17, 2019 18:43:56 GMT
"Sir" Jim Ratcliffe.
CUNT
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 17, 2019 18:59:21 GMT
There’s only one problem with that If corbyn’s puppet master gets his fingers on the till the revenue raised in taxation will plummet Sadly In these days of globalisation a couple of presses of buttons and you’re headquarters or personal wealth sits somewhere the British chancellor can’t get to McDonnells plans rest on people being decent and willing to pay tax
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 17, 2019 19:16:52 GMT
McDonnells plans rest on people being decent and willing to pay tax Imagine a world like that and yet it's Jeremy and John who are the 'bad guys'!
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 17, 2019 22:20:04 GMT
McDonnells plans rest on people being decent and willing to pay tax Imagine a world like that and yet it's Jeremy and John who are the 'bad guys'! There are not enough rich or super rich people to pay for the free unicorns, labour planned to introduce a garden tax.
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 21, 2019 12:15:42 GMT
What are the £@#&tards at today...
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 21, 2019 12:24:20 GMT
What are the £@#&tards at today... Tory MP charged over expenses allegations. Christopher Davies, the Conservative MP for Brecon and Radnorshire, has been charged over allegations that he falsified two invoices in support of parliamentary expenses claims. A Crown Prosecution Service spokesman said: In November 2018, the Crown Prosecution Service received a file of evidence from the Metropolitan police relating to an allegation that Christopher Davies, MP for Brecon and Radnorshire, falsified two invoices in support of parliamentary expenses claims. Following a review of the evidence, the CPS has today charged Mr Davies with two offences of making a false instrument and one offence of providing false or misleading information for allowance claims. He will appear at Westminster magistrates court on 22 March. A slight chance of them losing it in a By-Election
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 12:31:18 GMT
Imagine a world like that and yet it's Jeremy and John who are the 'bad guys'! There are not enough rich or super rich people to pay for the free unicorns, labour planned to introduce a garden tax. 44% of the UK's wealth is owned by the richest 10%, which is 5 times the wealth owned by the poorest 50%. I wouldn't mind if we had competitive upper tax rates, but we charge the top earners nowt, because the tories want us to be a mini tax haven. Stick the tax rate up to 70% over £5 million, similar to the Ocasio-Cortez plans in the US, and cut down loopholes as every party promises they'll do, and there would be a hell of a lot of money available.
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Post by felonious on Feb 21, 2019 13:21:28 GMT
There are not enough rich or super rich people to pay for the free unicorns, labour planned to introduce a garden tax. 44% of the UK's wealth is owned by the richest 10%, which is 5 times the wealth owned by the poorest 50%. I wouldn't mind if we had competitive upper tax rates, but we charge the top earners nowt, because the tories want us to be a mini tax haven. Stick the tax rate up to 70% over £5 million, similar to the Ocasio-Cortez plans in the US, and cut down loopholes as every party promises they'll do, and there would be a hell of a lot of money available. %8 It's a competitive world out there and the super rich can live anywhere they want in it. The current highest rate of tax is 45% plus 2% NI plus a further 13.8% from the employer. The dividend rate for high earners is 38.1% after suffering a further 19% in corporation tax.
At what point do you think the super rich start
a) Leaving the country b) Stop paying themselves wages and dividends c) stop getting out of bed in the morning because any incentive has been taken away
This doesn't just apply to the rich or the super rich. Anyone on higher rate tax will be blasted by this version of Labour. They've had a hammering from the Conservative party over the last 8 years. Everything from pension relief to family allowance to investment properties have been hammered while the minimum wage and personal allowances have been substantially increased. The burden of the tax credit system has been gradually moved over to employers already suffering a hike in NI, withdrawal of state help for Statutory sick pay and increasing administrative burdens.
The last time this sort of Labour administration got to power the highest rate of tax was 98%. As HR taxpayers left the country the tax take went down. Overspending leads to deficits as seen with the last Labour administration.
You could of course put corporation tax up but this would make the UK uncompetitive.
It's a difficult balancing act but the Marxists would be a disaster.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 13:27:27 GMT
44% of the UK's wealth is owned by the richest 10%, which is 5 times the wealth owned by the poorest 50%. I wouldn't mind if we had competitive upper tax rates, but we charge the top earners nowt, because the tories want us to be a mini tax haven. Stick the tax rate up to 70% over £5 million, similar to the Ocasio-Cortez plans in the US, and cut down loopholes as every party promises they'll do, and there would be a hell of a lot of money available. %8 It's a competitive world out there and the super rich can live anywhere they want in it. The current highest rate of tax is 45% plus 2% NI plus a further 13.8% from the employer. The dividend rate for high earners is 38.1% after suffering a further 19% in corporation tax.
At what point do you think the super rich start
a) Leaving the country b) Stop paying themselves wages and dividends c) stop getting out of bed in the morning because any incentive has been taken away
This doesn't just apply to the rich or the super rich. Anyone on higher rate tax will be blasted by this version of Labour. They've had a hammering from the Conservative party over the last 8 years. Everything from pension relief to family allowance to investment properties have been hammered while the minimum wage and personal allowances have been substantially increased. The burden of the tax credit system has been gradually moved over to employers already suffering a hike in NI, withdrawal of state help for Statutory sick pay and increasing administrative burdens.
The last time this sort of Labour administration got to power the highest rate of tax was 98%. As HR taxpayers left the country the tax take went down. Overspending leads to deficits as seen with the last Labour administration.
You could of course put corporation tax up but this would make the UK uncompetitive.
It's a difficult balancing act but the Marxists would be a disaster.
We're already miles below other countries though, and we have a huge market that investors and businesses want access to. It should be those earning ridiculous amounts that pay most, and the mid-point of investors leaving surely wouldn't be at a 70% tax rate over 5 million? They'd miss out on enormous amounts of trade. The problem at the minute is that the world is heading more towards the opposite end of the political spectrum, becoming more and more free-market, allowing more and more greedy cunts to hoard everything whilst people in first world countries have to resort to food banks and 100 hour weeks.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Feb 21, 2019 13:39:14 GMT
So the wealthiest and biggest companies in the world aren't going to leave the UK because of potential disruption and additional costs over Brexit, but they're definitely going to leave over having to pay additional costs in tax brought in by a Labour government.
Like Dianne Abbott's maths homework, something doesn't add up here.
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Post by felonious on Feb 21, 2019 14:15:29 GMT
It's a competitive world out there and the super rich can live anywhere they want in it. The current highest rate of tax is 45% plus 2% NI plus a further 13.8% from the employer. The dividend rate for high earners is 38.1% after suffering a further 19% in corporation tax.
At what point do you think the super rich start
a) Leaving the country b) Stop paying themselves wages and dividends c) stop getting out of bed in the morning because any incentive has been taken away
This doesn't just apply to the rich or the super rich. Anyone on higher rate tax will be blasted by this version of Labour. They've had a hammering from the Conservative party over the last 8 years. Everything from pension relief to family allowance to investment properties have been hammered while the minimum wage and personal allowances have been substantially increased. The burden of the tax credit system has been gradually moved over to employers already suffering a hike in NI, withdrawal of state help for Statutory sick pay and increasing administrative burdens.
The last time this sort of Labour administration got to power the highest rate of tax was 98%. As HR taxpayers left the country the tax take went down. Overspending leads to deficits as seen with the last Labour administration.
You could of course put corporation tax up but this would make the UK uncompetitive.
It's a difficult balancing act but the Marxists would be a disaster.
We're already miles below other countries though, and we have a huge market that investors and businesses want access to. It should be those earning ridiculous amounts that pay most, and the mid-point of investors leaving surely wouldn't be at a 70% tax rate over 5 million? They'd miss out on enormous amounts of trade. The problem at the minute is that the world is heading more towards the opposite end of the political spectrum, becoming more and more free-market, allowing more and more greedy cunts to hoard everything whilst people in first world countries have to resort to food banks and 100 hour weeks. As I stated above they're already paying circa 60%. Is that 70% plus 2% NI plus 13.8% employers NI because a lot of these people you want to target are company owners and employers. Is it 70% on dividends after 19% corporation tax has been paid.
Don't forget that this sort of Labour government will also increase death duties substantially. It's not going to be that attractive to stay in this country and employ people. The buggers are also contributing 20% tax to the Exchequer on most of what they buy.
Increasing taxes won't give you the solution you want.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 21, 2019 15:19:48 GMT
The sad truth is that not one of the major parties is worth voting for.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 21, 2019 15:51:33 GMT
The sad truth is that not one of the major parties is worth voting for. I find the new Independent Group the more odious than the Tories myself. At least you know where you stand with a dyed in the wool Tory. I'd buy a newspaper to check if one these 11 snake oil salesman slimeballs told me what day it was.
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 21, 2019 16:08:59 GMT
The sad truth is that not one of the major parties is worth voting for. I find the new Independent Group the more odious than the Tories myself. At least you know where you stand with a dyed in the wool Tory. I'd buy a newspaper to check if one these 11 snake oil salesman slimeballs told me what day it was. Pretty predictable us dyed in the wool Tory’s
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 21, 2019 16:18:23 GMT
So the wealthiest and biggest companies in the world aren't going to leave the UK because of potential disruption and additional costs over Brexit, but they're definitely going to leave over having to pay additional costs in tax brought in by a Labour government. Like Dianne Abbott's maths homework, something doesn't add up here. Perhaps both scenarios have been wildly exaggerated?
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