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Post by elystokie on Mar 14, 2023 23:30:49 GMT
If he gets sued I'm sure he'll enjoy a similar amount of public support to that which Gary Lintknuckle enjoyed...
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Post by oggyoggy on Mar 15, 2023 7:31:59 GMT
Well done Hunt. He will be U turning on more energy support and additional childcare provision. That is some help to working families.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 15, 2023 13:25:49 GMT
This is quite a thing, especially after all the week's news about impartiality. Number 10 dictating editorial policy on their opposition party during the pandemic. And absolutely nothing has changed. Even with all the attention on the BBC over the weekend, they just can't help themselves, their bias is now a part of the fabric of their reporting ...
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 15, 2023 13:27:15 GMT
Well done Hunt. He will be U turning on more energy support and additional childcare provision. That is some help to working families. this is good news also, it's imperative Local Authority pools and leisure centres stay open as the usage amongst the elderly and disabled is high. Mental and physical wellbeing should always be at the forefront.....
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 15, 2023 14:16:15 GMT
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Post by gawa on Mar 15, 2023 14:35:51 GMT
Welcome the childcare changes. Don't really give a fuck about the energy ones because extra energy support in April may and June when usage is lower isn't gonna help as much as some think.
On the whole though it doesn't really tackle any of the issues. How does it bring down mortgage rates, or energy prices, or fuel prices, or house prices, or food prices...
To me it feels more of a confirmation that abusrb living costs are here to say. But if you have a child under 2 you may get a bit more support with childcare for a year if you're lucky.
Oh and also help for high earners with tax changes to pensions so they can avoid more tax while furthering their financial position for retirement. Something normal working people can't even think of while they plan how to survive each week Nevermind thinking about how the survive on retirement.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 15, 2023 14:38:40 GMT
Welcome the childcare changes. Don't really give a fuck about the energy ones because extra energy support in April may and June when usage is lower isn't gonna help as much as some think. On the whole though it doesn't really tackle any of the issues. How does it bring down mortgage rates, or energy prices, or fuel prices, or house prices, or food prices... To me it feels more of a confirmation that abusrb living costs are here to say. But if you have a child under 2 you may get a bit more support with childcare for a year if you're lucky. Oh and also help for high earners with tax changes to pensions so they can avoid more tax while furthering their financial position for retirement. Something normal working people can't even think of while they plan how to survive each week Nevermind thinking about how the survive on retirement. Yep the only tax cut, was for the very wealthy ... didn't see that one coming.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 15, 2023 14:41:26 GMT
Welcome the childcare changes. Don't really give a fuck about the energy ones because extra energy support in April may and June when usage is lower isn't gonna help as much as some think. On the whole though it doesn't really tackle any of the issues. How does it bring down mortgage rates, or energy prices, or fuel prices, or house prices, or food prices... To me it feels more of a confirmation that abusrb living costs are here to say. But if you have a child under 2 you may get a bit more support with childcare for a year if you're lucky. Oh and also help for high earners with tax changes to pensions so they can avoid more tax while furthering their financial position for retirement. Something normal working people can't even think of while they plan how to survive each week Nevermind thinking about how the survive on retirement. Yep the only tax cut, was for the very wealthy ... didn't see that one coming. At least Gary will be happy.
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Post by gawa on Mar 15, 2023 14:42:19 GMT
Welcome the childcare changes. Don't really give a fuck about the energy ones because extra energy support in April may and June when usage is lower isn't gonna help as much as some think. On the whole though it doesn't really tackle any of the issues. How does it bring down mortgage rates, or energy prices, or fuel prices, or house prices, or food prices... To me it feels more of a confirmation that abusrb living costs are here to say. But if you have a child under 2 you may get a bit more support with childcare for a year if you're lucky. Oh and also help for high earners with tax changes to pensions so they can avoid more tax while furthering their financial position for retirement. Something normal working people can't even think of while they plan how to survive each week Nevermind thinking about how the survive on retirement. Yep the only tax cut, was for the very wealthy ... didn't see that one coming. And it seems the 30 hours of free childcare doesn't actually come into action until September 2025: "As a result, it will be a staged introduction, with 15 free hours of childcare for two-year-olds in April 2024, and in September 2024 for those aged over nine months, then 30 hours for all from September 2025." So another exaggerated lie in our budget for 2023/2024. I'm sure the BBC will make that clear in their headlines though. "30 hours free childcare for 2 year old and those aged above 9 months from September 2025, announced in the 2023/2024 budget"
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Post by gawa on Mar 15, 2023 14:44:46 GMT
Yep the only tax cut, was for the very wealthy ... didn't see that one coming. At least Gary will be happy. Weird flex.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 15, 2023 14:47:21 GMT
Yep the only tax cut, was for the very wealthy ... didn't see that one coming. And it seems the 30 hours of free childcare doesn't actually come into action until September 2025: "As a result, it will be a staged introduction, with 15 free hours of childcare for two-year-olds in April 2024, and in September 2024 for those aged over nine months, then 30 hours for all from September 2025." So another exaggerated lie in our budget for 2023/2024. I'm sure the BBC will make that clear in their headlines though. "30 hours free childcare for 2 year old and those aged above 9 months from September 2025, announced in the 2023/2024 budget" To be fair virtually all new financial measures announced at any budget start within 12 months of the announcement..like minimum wage announcements usually start in the next financial year...I presume unlike truss and her lets change this yesterday plans this is to give financial and business markets time to adapt ready for these changes..
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Post by questionable on Mar 15, 2023 14:51:25 GMT
I’ve just just said to my mum it’s my understanding that this really comes into effect in 2025 but told I was wrong, sure I’m not.
So my lad pays £800 a month for our grandsons childcare costs who’s 1, he’s on about handing his notice in tomorrow as they literally can’t afford the child care costs and they’ll live off his girlfriends wage.
We already help them massively financially but I’ve said to the other half if he packs his job in it all stops from us, in truth it’s easy to see why people pack in work as it’s impossible to pay such money out.
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Post by gawa on Mar 15, 2023 14:51:53 GMT
And it seems the 30 hours of free childcare doesn't actually come into action until September 2025: "As a result, it will be a staged introduction, with 15 free hours of childcare for two-year-olds in April 2024, and in September 2024 for those aged over nine months, then 30 hours for all from September 2025." So another exaggerated lie in our budget for 2023/2024. I'm sure the BBC will make that clear in their headlines though. "30 hours free childcare for 2 year old and those aged above 9 months from September 2025, announced in the 2023/2024 budget" To be fair virtually all new financial measures announced at any budget start within 12 months of the announcement..like minimum wage announcements usually start in the next financial year...I presume unlike truss and her lets change this yesterday plans this is to give financial and business markets time to adapt ready for these changes.. That's true you're right there. I think he said the same for the defence budget with it going up every year for the next 5. Whether or not the papers make that clear is another thing. But yeh in my opinion I just don't see much to shout about in terms of benefits today or from the next 12 months. The corporation tax I'm not sure when it applies but think it's maybe coming sooner. At least that's one good thing i guess.
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Post by gawa on Mar 15, 2023 14:54:20 GMT
I’ve just just said to my mum it’s my understanding that this really comes into effect in 2025 but told I was wrong, sure I’m not. So my lad pays £800 a month for our grandsons childcare costs who’s 1, he’s on about handing his notice in tomorrow as they literally can’t afford the child care costs and they’ll live off his girlfriends wage. We already help them massively financially but I’ve said to the other half if he packs his job in it all stops from us, in truth it’s easy to see why people pack in work as it’s impossible to pay such money out. I think if that bit I quoted from the BBC is right then from mid next year you'll get 15 hours and then the year after its the 30 hours. But yeah I don't think any of it comes in for at least 12 months.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 15, 2023 15:35:46 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 15, 2023 16:22:43 GMT
Nothing like getting your priorities in order ...
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 15, 2023 17:15:53 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 15, 2023 17:21:19 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 15, 2023 17:25:24 GMT
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Post by OldStokie on Mar 15, 2023 17:35:50 GMT
This is probably the worst budget I've known for the working classes. Even what was for those who need child care before they can get back to work, it's jam tomorrow. If they now made a cockup of their immigration policy of falling back on cultural divides, they're dead meat walking. All Labour needs to do now is sit back and watch it all fall apart. Those who work in the NHS (except for a few that have retired and now might come back because of tax bribes) and everybody else who got us through the pandemic, have gone from heroes to zeros. Bastards!
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 15, 2023 17:47:41 GMT
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Post by wagsastokie on Mar 15, 2023 18:05:36 GMT
I’ve just just said to my mum it’s my understanding that this really comes into effect in 2025 but told I was wrong, sure I’m not. So my lad pays £800 a month for our grandsons childcare costs who’s 1, he’s on about handing his notice in tomorrow as they literally can’t afford the child care costs and they’ll live off his girlfriends wage. We already help them massively financially but I’ve said to the other half if he packs his job in it all stops from us, in truth it’s easy to see why people pack in work as it’s impossible to pay such money out. I think if that bit I quoted from the BBC is right then from mid next year you'll get 15 hours and then the year after its the 30 hours. But yeah I don't think any of it comes in for at least 12 months. To be honest I think it’s the time needed to increase the number of places available That’s the cause for the delay
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Post by Davef on Mar 15, 2023 18:54:15 GMT
This is quite a thing, especially after all the week's news about impartiality. Number 10 dictating editorial policy on their opposition party during the pandemic. And absolutely nothing has changed. Even with all the attention on the BBC over the weekend, they just can't help themselves, their bias is now a part of the fabric of their reporting ... The BBC needs to get back to the days when it was politically impartial and it protected its star performers.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 15, 2023 18:59:00 GMT
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Post by gawa on Mar 15, 2023 19:09:31 GMT
I think if that bit I quoted from the BBC is right then from mid next year you'll get 15 hours and then the year after its the 30 hours. But yeah I don't think any of it comes in for at least 12 months. To be honest I think it’s the time needed to increase the number of places available That’s the cause for the delay And probably to help increase staffing numbers too. My gf started working in a nursery in September and is doing a 2 year part time college course subsidised by the government. So by the 2025 there will hopefully be more people qualified in childcare to help support this too.
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Post by hamsta2 on Mar 15, 2023 19:47:15 GMT
As an aside a local Greggs closed today - no staff. Seems like there are job vacancies here in unprecedented numbers.
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Post by foster on Mar 15, 2023 20:24:16 GMT
To be honest I think it’s the time needed to increase the number of places available That’s the cause for the delay And probably to help increase staffing numbers too. My gf started working in a nursery in September and is doing a 2 year part time college course subsidised by the government. So by the 2025 there will hopefully be more people qualified in childcare to help support this too. That's bullshit!!! ....As if you have a girlfriend.
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Post by wannabee on Mar 15, 2023 20:25:26 GMT
Whoopty Doo Stagnation (actually contraction) is the new success story! The forecast of a further -0.2% fall in GDP in 2023 would mean UK GDP will still be even further behind December 2019 level As you highlight Huddy OBR say this would be -0.5% worse without increased immigration Even this figure is muddled with Cruella still spouting less than 100K, Jeremy has obviously fed OBR his figures which are 245K but this is only a 40K increase from OBR November forecast of 205K. A fact conveniently overlooked by every Government Minister when asked about immigration You would wonder why we ended free movement, guffaws All of this was of course predicted by Remain in "Project Fear"
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 15, 2023 20:32:50 GMT
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Post by gawa on Mar 15, 2023 20:33:34 GMT
And probably to help increase staffing numbers too. My gf started working in a nursery in September and is doing a 2 year part time college course subsidised by the government. So by the 2025 there will hopefully be more people qualified in childcare to help support this too. That's bullshit!!! ....As if you have a girlfriend. I know you'd think I'd be marriage material. Might have to trade her in for a younger model soon. Breaks down too much and is costing too much money to maintain 🤣
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