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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 20, 2021 10:36:26 GMT
Innocent till proven guilty though heh.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 20, 2021 10:39:36 GMT
Innocent till proven guilty though heh. She was found guilty by the inquiry. Johnson decided to take no action.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 20, 2021 10:42:20 GMT
Country Homeless per 10,000 Grenada 5644 Haiti 2324 Nigeria 1658 Honduras 1235 Egypt 1200 Zimbabwe 848 Peru 560 Guatemala 315 Togo 211 Uganda 143i Indonesia 136 New Zealand 94 Germany 79 Ukraine 75 Congo DR 56 Australia 47 United Kingdom 46 Canada 36 South Africa 36 Sweden 36 Israel 29 Luxembourg 28 Netherlands 23 Czech Republic 22 France 21 Ireland 21 Bosnia and Her 20 China 18 Greece 18 Austria 17 United States 17 India 15 Slovenia 13 Denmark 11 Latvia 11 Hungary 10 Switzerland 9 Finland 9 Spain 9 Italy 8 Poland 8 Chile 7 Croatia 7 Norway 7 Romania 7 Estonia 6 Brazil 4 Mexico 4 Russia 4 Portugal 3 Hong Kong 2 South Korea 2 Japan 0.3 Cuba 0 Jordan 0 Liechtenstein 0 3rd highest levels of homelessness in Europe behind Germany and Ukraine. It's a national disgrace how such a rich country could allow this - in fact, not only do we allow it, we enable it. Thanks god for the likes of Lou Macari. Interesting that everybody’s been lauding New Zealand and how great there leader is yet they have double the homeless we do. I don’t know much about Arden. Politically isn’t she Labour? On the subject of Lou Macari what an amazing man the guy needs a knighthood for all his brilliant work. I’m sure there’s a perfectly reasonable explanation why this labour run country has double the homeless rate of the UK🤔 Agree about Macari, inspirational work.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 20, 2021 10:53:08 GMT
Innocent till proven guilty though heh. She was found guilty by the inquiry. Johnson decided to take no action. Found guilty of “shouting and swearing” hmmmmmmmmm.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 20, 2021 10:54:10 GMT
She was found guilty by the inquiry. Johnson decided to take no action. Found guilty of “shouting and swearing” hmmmmmmmmm. Errr no. Bullying.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 20, 2021 11:02:20 GMT
Found guilty of “shouting and swearing” hmmmmmmmmm. Errr no. Bullying. Sir Alex Allan, who produced the report and later quit after his advice was overruled, found evidence of bullying and that Ms Patel had not always treated civil servants with “consideration and respect”. The summary of his findings said that Ms Patel’s behaviour, which was said to include some occasions of shouting and swearing, had “been in breach of the ministerial code, even if unintentionally”. Doesn’t sound any worse than some of the stuff that goes on in here. Not saying it’s right but I’m sure we’ve all worked for bosses who go with this approach. One of the greatest footy managers ever Alex Ferguson behaved far worse and got away with it as did Pulis.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 20, 2021 11:27:43 GMT
Yes not sure the public will be that bothered, the comments to kay's tweet (which is deliberately misleading) don't seem to be going that well for her. Not sure its even a cock up just bigger priorities, the mps got a bit of a kicking from the judge for just adding their names for publicity to the case, the usual stop brexit mps of course.... Something similar happening in Scotland... Worst performance by Scottish Government on freedom of information requests for three yearsI think we can cut the various Governments a bit of slack - but not cut them lose altogether. They still need to be open to allow proper assessment of what they are up to. We need to allow them some flexibility just now. It’s not a blank cheque. Ambulance chasers like the fox killing wanker are best ignored. "Fred West has been found guilty of murder" "Let me point you in the direction of when Peter Sutcliffe was also found guilty of murder"
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 20, 2021 11:31:31 GMT
Sir Alex Allan, who produced the report and later quit after his advice was overruled, found evidence of bullying and that Ms Patel had not always treated civil servants with “consideration and respect”. The summary of his findings said that Ms Patel’s behaviour, which was said to include some occasions of shouting and swearing, had “been in breach of the ministerial code, even if unintentionally”. Doesn’t sound any worse than some of the stuff that goes on in here. Not saying it’s right but I’m sure we’ve all worked for bosses who go with this approach. One of the greatest footy managers ever Alex Ferguson behaved far worse and got away with it as did Pulis. I wonder if there anything in the ministerial code about headbutting an employee while wearing nothing more than a towel.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 20, 2021 11:34:16 GMT
Sir Alex Allan, who produced the report and later quit after his advice was overruled, found evidence of bullying and that Ms Patel had not always treated civil servants with “consideration and respect”. The summary of his findings said that Ms Patel’s behaviour, which was said to include some occasions of shouting and swearing, had “been in breach of the ministerial code, even if unintentionally”. Doesn’t sound any worse than some of the stuff that goes on in here. Not saying it’s right but I’m sure we’ve all worked for bosses who go with this approach. One of the greatest footy managers ever Alex Ferguson behaved far worse and got away with it as did Pulis. It was this Governments own Ethics advisor who found her guilty of bullying and breaking the Ministerial Code! Johnson's response “form a square around the Prittster”. This Government and the fop headed criminal leading it, are beneath contempt.
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 20, 2021 11:35:57 GMT
Health Minister in Pandemic acting unlawfully and barely a peep on mainstream news outlets. I'm sure the usual tools and useful idiots will tell us there is still some sort of left wing bias in our broadcast media. What a vile, vile, rigged, right wing country we are. String up em an average of 17 days late publishing contracts, fucking civil servants fucking about during the pandemic distributing ppe etc why didn't they concentrate on the important stuff publishing purchase contracts.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 20, 2021 11:37:38 GMT
Health Minister in Pandemic acting unlawfully and barely a peep on mainstream news outlets. I'm sure the usual tools and useful idiots will tell us there is still some sort of left wing bias in our broadcast media. What a vile, vile, rigged, right wing country we are. String up em an average of 17 days late publishing contracts, fucking civil servants fucking about during the pandemic distributing ppe etc why didn't they concentrate on the important stuff publishing purchase contracts. Guido Fawkes
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 20, 2021 11:39:36 GMT
Health Minister in Pandemic acting unlawfully and barely a peep on mainstream news outlets. I'm sure the usual tools and useful idiots will tell us there is still some sort of left wing bias in our broadcast media. What a vile, vile, rigged, right wing country we are. String up em an average of 17 days late publishing contracts, fucking civil servants fucking about during the pandemic distributing ppe etc why didn't they concentrate on the important stuff publishing purchase contracts. Out of interest has anything not been published. Because if all that has happened is the publication of the contracts have been delayed a few weeks, that legal action is a disgrace.
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 20, 2021 11:51:47 GMT
String up em an average of 17 days late publishing contracts, fucking civil servants fucking about during the pandemic distributing ppe etc why didn't they concentrate on the important stuff publishing purchase contracts. Out of interest has anything not been published. Because if all that has happened is the publication of the contracts have been delayed a few weeks, that legal action is a disgrace. I have not seen any stories saying contracts aren't being published just that they are being published late but then if they were refusing to publish not sure how you could know, not that I think there is any reason to do this anyway. Jolyons only source of income now, nice little crowdfunder goto court get paid whatever, he left chambers for reasons I have never seen explained but considering he used to make a living helping companies avoid paying tax its quite funny he is momos latest hero.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 20, 2021 12:04:47 GMT
The Pandemic makes transparency more important not less. What have they got to hide? The Government were guilty, they knew they were guilty and by fighting the charge they have cost the tax payer hundreds of thousands of pounds. They are an utter disgrace.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 20, 2021 12:14:11 GMT
The Pandemic makes transparency more important not less. What have they got to hide? The Government were guilty, they knew they were guilty and by fighting the charge they have cost the tax payer hundreds of thousands of pounds. They are an utter disgrace. We had to procure 100 trucks at work at the start of the pandemic which was proving tricky, and of course we had to bypass the normal tender process as that just wasn't possible. But Big Dave from my local boozer owned a small repair shop said he knew a man who knew a man. So we wrote him a cheque for £100k and told him to knock himself out. Imagine my surprise when only 6 turned up, without engines and wheels. Still you live and learn eh?
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 20, 2021 12:17:14 GMT
The Pandemic makes transparency more important not less. What have they got to hide? The Government were guilty, they knew they were guilty and by fighting the charge they have cost the tax payer hundreds of thousands of pounds. They are an utter disgrace. I guess they were fighting the charge that they had “a policy of de-prioritising compliance with the law” which the judge found not to be the case. So, I guess you could reasonably ask why the complainant included a mendacious dimension to the case that forced the Government to defend itself. A reminder - there is, as far as I can see nothing to suggest the UK Government is not publishing information, only that it seems to be a few weeks late in doing so. In this they are in the same position as the Scottish Government. The COVID crisis seems to provide reasonable grounds for some delay. I say that on the proviso that the government is, noting this delay, publishing the contract. If this is the case you should be directing your anger at the people who brought forward the case.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 20, 2021 12:19:51 GMT
The Pandemic makes transparency more important not less. What have they got to hide? The Government were guilty, they knew they were guilty and by fighting the charge they have cost the tax payer hundreds of thousands of pounds. They are an utter disgrace. I guess they were fighting the charge that they had “a policy of de-prioritising compliance with the law” which the judge found not to be the case. So, I guess you could reasonably ask why the complainant included a mendacious dimension to the case that forced the Government to defend itself. A reminder - there is, as far as I can see nothing to suggest the UK Government is not publishing information, only that it seems to be a few weeks late in doing so. In this they are in the same position as the Scottish Government. The COVID crisis seems to provide reasonable grounds for some delay. I say that on the proviso that the government is, noting this delay, publishing the contract. If this is the case you should be directing your anger at the people who brought forward the case. The judge directly criticised the Government for fighting the case. Again this Government wilfully acts unlawfully.
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 20, 2021 12:28:50 GMT
I guess they were fighting the charge that they had “a policy of de-prioritising compliance with the law” which the judge found not to be the case. So, I guess you could reasonably ask why the complainant included a mendacious dimension to the case that forced the Government to defend itself. A reminder - there is, as far as I can see nothing to suggest the UK Government is not publishing information, only that it seems to be a few weeks late in doing so. In this they are in the same position as the Scottish Government. The COVID crisis seems to provide reasonable grounds for some delay. I say that on the proviso that the government is, noting this delay, publishing the contract. If this is the case you should be directing your anger at the people who brought forward the case. The judge directly criticised the Government for fighting the case. Again this Government wilfully acts unlawfully. Did he - I didn’t see that in the article. In any case, I am still of the opinion that this case is a nonsense - that of a few weeks delay in publishing contracts. The bigger question is the awarding of the contracts themselves. While most folk will accept cutting some corners in the interests of speed due to the pandemic, it is not acceptable to abandon all critical assessment. So the charge of nepotism and cronyism in the awarding of contracts still needs to be looked at.
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Post by essexstokey on Feb 20, 2021 12:53:31 GMT
See Tory central office is out in force today 😁
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Post by maxplonk on Feb 25, 2021 19:27:10 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 27, 2021 10:40:20 GMT
Just another local Conservative Party constituency using antisemitic tropes at a Labour MP who has a Jewish father. Nothing to see here. No need for the BBC or MSM to get involved at all......
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 27, 2021 10:52:33 GMT
Just another local Conservative Party constituency using antisemitic tropes at a Labour MP who has a Jewish father. Nothing to see here. No need for the BBC or MSM to get involved at all...... Could you please explain what is allegedly anti Semitic in that post As maybe I’m not to sharp this morning but I can’t see it It looks to me to be linking it to Pinocchio ie lying
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 27, 2021 10:59:02 GMT
Just another local Conservative Party constituency using antisemitic tropes at a Labour MP who has a Jewish father. Nothing to see here. No need for the BBC or MSM to get involved at all...... Could you please explain what is allegedly anti Semitic in that post As maybe I’m not to sharp this morning but I can’t see it It looks to me to be linking it to Pinocchio ie lying I'm simply applying the new rules of what is or isn't antisemitic, I mean who even knows these day? But the goalposts have changed in the last few years so therefore I fully expect to see this being discussed on Newsnight on Monday.......
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 27, 2021 11:10:01 GMT
Could you please explain what is allegedly anti Semitic in that post As maybe I’m not to sharp this morning but I can’t see it It looks to me to be linking it to Pinocchio ie lying I'm simply applying the new rules of what is or isn't antisemitic, I mean who even knows these day? But the goalposts have changed in the last few years so therefore I fully expect to see this being discussed on Newsnight on Monday....... I can see your logic there And I’m sure there are rabid Zionists looking very closely at it But it is really a sad indictment of today’s society That people can be labelled so easily
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 27, 2021 11:28:04 GMT
Go on guess who he supports and which party invited him to HofC
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 27, 2021 12:06:14 GMT
Go on guess who he supports and which party invited him to HofC This is a thread about the government and Conservative Party, any comments on the antisemitic dog whistle? Or are you redefining what antisemitism now to defend it?
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 27, 2021 13:09:35 GMT
Go on guess who he supports and which party invited him to HofC This is a thread about the government and Conservative Party, any comments on the antisemitic dog whistle? Or are you redefining what antisemitism now to defend it? I think the anti semitic trope / stereotype is a hooked / crooked nose this is is obviously some sort of pinoccio type drawing interesting this is your line for AS now previously you were ok with people meeting hamas and hezbollah and good to see you supporting liverpool mps you think are being abused, better late than never but then unlike berger perhaps he votes the right way. That Sergei twitter account is an interesting one spends alot of time downplaying AS and tweeting about jews kind of reminds me of someone....
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 27, 2021 13:45:57 GMT
This is a thread about the government and Conservative Party, any comments on the antisemitic dog whistle? Or are you redefining what antisemitism now to defend it? I think the anti semitic trope / stereotype is a hooked / crooked nose this is is obviously some sort of pinoccio type drawing interesting this is your line for AS now previously you were ok with people meeting hamas and hezbollah and good to see you supporting liverpool mps you think are being abused, better late than never but then unlike berger perhaps he votes the right way. That Sergei twitter account is an interesting one spends alot of time downplaying AS and tweeting about jews kind of reminds me of someone.... It’s my Twitter account that why Poirot. And I’ve said nothing on there that I haven’t said on here. And when you say I downplay antisemitism I suggest you retract that, I downplayed the numbers which is just a fact. You seem to struggle with the truth......
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 27, 2021 14:45:04 GMT
I think the anti semitic trope / stereotype is a hooked / crooked nose this is is obviously some sort of pinoccio type drawing interesting this is your line for AS now previously you were ok with people meeting hamas and hezbollah and good to see you supporting liverpool mps you think are being abused, better late than never but then unlike berger perhaps he votes the right way. That Sergei twitter account is an interesting one spends alot of time downplaying AS and tweeting about jews kind of reminds me of someone.... It’s my Twitter account that why Poirot. And I’ve said nothing on there that I haven’t said on here. And when you say I downplay antisemitism I suggest you retract that, I downplayed the numbers which is just a fact. You seem to struggle with the truth...... Quite the rabid corbynista aren't we despite the reasonable pretence on here. There is no retraction going to be coming downplaying the numbers is downplaying AS, theres no difference really. Here's your Ange (they're going to need a bigger smear just washing jews out of labour party history)
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 27, 2021 14:47:43 GMT
It’s my Twitter account that why Poirot. And I’ve said nothing on there that I haven’t said on here. And when you say I downplay antisemitism I suggest you retract that, I downplayed the numbers which is just a fact. You seem to struggle with the truth...... Quite the rabid corbynista aren't we despite the reasonable pretence on here. There is no retraction going to be coming downplaying the numbers is downplaying AS, theres no difference really. Here's your Ange (they're going to need a bigger smear just washing jews out of labour party history) I’m touched you’ve spent the last 20 minutes going through my Twitter feed. Bit weird but hey ho. Fairly silly and ignorant comment from Rayner considering Jews are both an ethnic and religious group, all though she’s not and never has been “my Ange” of course. And if you think downplaying the actual documented number of cases of antisemitism is the same as downplaying actual antisemitism then I can’t help you, you’re either disingenuous, thick or both......
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