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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 22, 2024 15:24:35 GMT
I'm sure you think you've made some clever observation that's banged me to rights but whatever it is it's way over my head. Nope none at all. Just agreeing with what you said to John. I don't understand your earlier posts about people being giddy about criticising starmer when he becomes leader. Why wouldn't we be holding him to the same standards as tories from day one? Did we all have a 1 month pause for Liz Truss or Rishi Sunak? We should be holding him to account now nevermind when he is elected. Why people seem to think that's a problem I don't know. Let’s hope his actions speak louder than his words otherwise we’re all fucked
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Apr 22, 2024 15:27:11 GMT
Wonder how long after the election before this thread title changes to this labour government is incompetent a shambles and!!! Because it will i am no tory fan but simply can't see any of that rabble in Westminster making any difference, it is simply them and us. Don’t dare suggest they’re all the same on this thread. You’ll get absolute pelters from the lefties Let's hope they are not all the same.
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Post by desman2 on Apr 22, 2024 15:31:46 GMT
Don’t dare suggest they’re all the same on this thread. You’ll get absolute pelters from the lefties Let's hope they are not all the same. We do say that at every election, and yet as much as they try to convince us that they are all the same too many people still haven't got the message.
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Apr 22, 2024 15:46:20 GMT
Let's hope they are not all the same. We do say that at every election, and yet as much as they try to convince us that they are all the same too many people still haven't got the message. They are never all the same. Just varying degrees of unsuitability for office. For all its failings the last Labour Government was not the same as what the Tories have thrown at the UK in recent times. Even under Cameron the Tories were not as bad as the current crop of self-serving, talentless ,ghastly individuals. Johnson - completely devoid of a bone of honesty in his body , and are you seriously suggesting Liz Truss is the same as all that went before her?
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Apr 22, 2024 15:54:06 GMT
I'm sure you think you've made some clever observation that's banged me to rights but whatever it is it's way over my head. Nope none at all. Just agreeing with what you said to John. I don't understand your earlier posts about people being giddy about criticising starmer when he becomes leader. Why wouldn't we be holding him to the same standards as tories from day one? Did we all have a 1 month pause for Liz Truss or Rishi Sunak? We should be holding him to account now nevermind when he is elected. Why people seem to think that's a problem I don't know. Hmmn - not sure you've read that right. I said in the correspondence yesterday that Starmer is fair game for policy and performance - however I dislike the targetting his of his family and his bank balance (unless anyone can demonstrate that he came by it by questionable means). Truss and Sunak are a different category IMHO - they represent continuity of the disaster of the last 14 years and neither faced the electorate. I'm not saying Starmer should be immune from criticism but there is undoubtedly a constituency just willing him to fail in order to be able to say they were right. Bit like Stoke - some supporters aching for a defeat just to win an arguement.
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Post by desman2 on Apr 22, 2024 15:59:07 GMT
We do say that at every election, and yet as much as they try to convince us that they are all the same too many people still haven't got the message. They are never all the same. Just varying degrees of unsuitability for office. For all its failings the last Labour Government was not the same as what the Tories have thrown at the UK in recent times. Even under Cameron the Tories were not as bad as the current crop of self-serving, talentless ,ghastly individuals. Johnson - completely devoid of a bone of honesty in his body , and are you seriously suggesting Liz Truss is the same as all that went before her? Im suggesting those that we elect. Four of those were not elected by public vote.
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Apr 22, 2024 18:23:46 GMT
They are never all the same. Just varying degrees of unsuitability for office. For all its failings the last Labour Government was not the same as what the Tories have thrown at the UK in recent times. Even under Cameron the Tories were not as bad as the current crop of self-serving, talentless ,ghastly individuals. Johnson - completely devoid of a bone of honesty in his body , and are you seriously suggesting Liz Truss is the same as all that went before her? Im suggesting those that we elect. Four of those were not elected by public vote. Now I'm confused and must be missing something. So you're suggesting since 2010 Cameron, May & Johnson were all the same because they won general elections , while Truss & Sunak might not have been the same because they were made PM outside of GE's? But you're saying that if we elect Sunak he will by default become the same as Johnson and the others, likewise Starmer?
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Post by gawa on Apr 22, 2024 18:43:28 GMT
Nope none at all. Just agreeing with what you said to John. I don't understand your earlier posts about people being giddy about criticising starmer when he becomes leader. Why wouldn't we be holding him to the same standards as tories from day one? Did we all have a 1 month pause for Liz Truss or Rishi Sunak? We should be holding him to account now nevermind when he is elected. Why people seem to think that's a problem I don't know. Hmmn - not sure you've read that right. I said in the correspondence yesterday that Starmer is fair game for policy and performance - however I dislike the targetting his of his family and his bank balance (unless anyone can demonstrate that he came by it by questionable means). Truss and Sunak are a different category IMHO - they represent continuity of the disaster of the last 14 years and neither faced the electorate. I'm not saying Starmer should be immune from criticism but there is undoubtedly a constituency just willing him to fail in order to be able to say they were right. Bit like Stoke - some supporters aching for a defeat just to win an arguement. It's got absolutely nothing to do with being right though. It's all subjective so nobody can actually be right. What's right to me is different to what's right for you. I want him to fail to get elected because I don't have faith in him. Maybe a manifesto will come out which changes my mind, I liked his leadership one. The comparison to Stoke is probably more fitting for those who are party political.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 22, 2024 20:55:01 GMT
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Apr 23, 2024 7:38:28 GMT
Hmmn - not sure you've read that right. I said in the correspondence yesterday that Starmer is fair game for policy and performance - however I dislike the targetting his of his family and his bank balance (unless anyone can demonstrate that he came by it by questionable means). Truss and Sunak are a different category IMHO - they represent continuity of the disaster of the last 14 years and neither faced the electorate. I'm not saying Starmer should be immune from criticism but there is undoubtedly a constituency just willing him to fail in order to be able to say they were right. Bit like Stoke - some supporters aching for a defeat just to win an arguement. It's got absolutely nothing to do with being right though. It's all subjective so nobody can actually be right. What's right to me is different to what's right for you. I want him to fail to get elected because I don't have faith in him. Maybe a manifesto will come out which changes my mind, I liked his leadership one. The comparison to Stoke is probably more fitting for those who are party political. Most social media 'discussions' are about 'being right'.
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Post by essexstokey on Apr 23, 2024 9:10:09 GMT
OK if you haven't noticed the upcoming mayor elections have changed to first past the post not pr Reason tories know they can't win on transferable vote It's been snuck in by the tories to yet again bias the vote
Get these parasites out now
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Post by gawa on Apr 23, 2024 9:38:54 GMT
OK if you haven't noticed the upcoming mayor elections have changed to first past the post not pr Reason tories know they can't win on transferable vote It's been snuck in by the tories to yet again bias the vote Get these parasites out now The gerrymandering act 2022 I call it. Lots of red flags in it.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 23, 2024 10:09:09 GMT
It's got absolutely nothing to do with being right though. It's all subjective so nobody can actually be right. What's right to me is different to what's right for you. I want him to fail to get elected because I don't have faith in him. Maybe a manifesto will come out which changes my mind, I liked his leadership one. The comparison to Stoke is probably more fitting for those who are party political. Most social media 'discussions' are about 'being right'. No they're not ... 😁
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Post by gawa on Apr 23, 2024 10:36:01 GMT
It's got absolutely nothing to do with being right though. It's all subjective so nobody can actually be right. What's right to me is different to what's right for you. I want him to fail to get elected because I don't have faith in him. Maybe a manifesto will come out which changes my mind, I liked his leadership one. The comparison to Stoke is probably more fitting for those who are party political. Most social media 'discussions' are about 'being right'. Mate until you break into the top 3, I suggest you just pipe down for a bit.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Apr 23, 2024 10:52:10 GMT
Most social media 'discussions' are about 'being right'. Mate until you break into the top 3, I suggest you just pipe down for a bit. And the social media that isn't about being right is usually people either bigging tbenselves up or dick measuring.
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Post by gawa on Apr 23, 2024 10:56:30 GMT
Mate until you break into the top 3, I suggest you just pipe down for a bit. And the social media that isn't about being right is usually people either bigging tbenselves up or dick measuring. I think that's an excellent post mate and well thought out. On reflection I completely agree with what you've said. Happy to agree to agree.
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Post by essexstokey on Apr 23, 2024 16:42:44 GMT
Funny how after 13 years of nothing corruption and putting up national debt going stratospheric they now make promises 7 years or go-ahead to try a nd tie labour's hands Disposable tactics Gat there parasites out now
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Post by essexstokey on Apr 23, 2024 16:54:00 GMT
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Apr 23, 2024 19:13:35 GMT
😂
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Post by gawa on Apr 23, 2024 19:17:24 GMT
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Post by cvillestokie on Apr 23, 2024 20:55:37 GMT
By 2030? So, never then? 😂
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Post by essexstokey on Apr 24, 2024 8:41:39 GMT
Un costed unaffordable and useless that's the tories spending plans they say 70000 jobs should be cut how and why have they overstaffed
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Post by thisisouryear on Apr 24, 2024 8:46:18 GMT
By 2030? So, never then? 😂 They are just directing funds to make life difficult for when Labour gets in. A Tory party looking to be out of power in a few months can't make these long term promises. Question is who's nest are they trying to feather before they leave office?
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Post by elystokie on Apr 24, 2024 10:44:05 GMT
By 2030? So, never then? 😂 They are just directing funds to make life difficult for when Labour gets in. A Tory party looking to be out of power in a few months can't make these long term promises. Question is who's nest are they trying to feather before they leave office? Highly likely to be someone's that will feather their own nest when they have left 🤮
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Post by OldStokie on Apr 24, 2024 11:26:06 GMT
Someone in the know said on the news yesterday that the first 300 sent to Rwanda will have cost 1.8 million quid each. The mind boggles at this crazy policy.
OS.
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Post by maxplonk on Apr 24, 2024 11:27:57 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 24, 2024 12:02:46 GMT
More top trolling from Foyles! 🤣
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Post by cvillestokie on Apr 24, 2024 13:14:10 GMT
By 2030? So, never then? 😂 They are just directing funds to make life difficult for when Labour gets in. A Tory party looking to be out of power in a few months can't make these long term promises. Question is who's nest are they trying to feather before they leave office? Britain should be paying their way in international defense to be fair. The next world war is far more likely to start in Europe or the Middle East than it is in South or Central America. Britain will be heavily involved in either of those theatres.
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Post by gawa on Apr 24, 2024 14:51:24 GMT
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Apr 24, 2024 14:55:11 GMT
All those excess boarding tickets, luggage costs etc. No wonder he's game. He'd make a mint. Probably land in Uganda too and have to make their own way there.
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