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Post by dirtygary69 on Aug 27, 2017 11:16:12 GMT
Fuck Mike Dean, fuck Raheem Sterling, fuck Man City and fuck Bournemouth. IMO
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Post by canadianmoose on Aug 27, 2017 11:17:40 GMT
Correct me but did the Bournemouth lad(Daniels) run to the crowd when he scored.Take passion and emotion away from the game then you may aswell watch cricket. Not really a good comparison. There is plenty of emotion and passion in cricket.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 16:12:44 GMT
Pathetic decision from that twat Mike Dean. Just typical from referees who don't have a clue about passion. The lads just scored the winning goal. What you want him do stand there going oh jolly good that was good of me! Mike Dean your a cunt
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Post by leicspotter on Aug 28, 2017 18:01:39 GMT
Sorry if it's already being discussed elsewhere. What did you make of it? A lot of pundits, Garth Crooks, particularly, have been criticising the decision. I don't often find myself defending Mike Dean, and he certainly made some mistakes today, but what choice does he have when the league dictate to referees that going to the crowd in celebration is a bookable offence? Referees can't start picking and choosing when they want to follow the rules.
Should the rule be changed? Sadly that's exactly what the refs DO do...that said, players know the rules...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 18:03:29 GMT
second yellow --he had to go
couldve incited a riot
mind you, Id give him a red card everytime he steps on the pitch
cuz - hes a twat !
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 28, 2017 18:07:34 GMT
second yellow --he had to go couldve incited a riot mind you, Id give him a red card everytime he steps on the pitch cuz - hes a twat ! Are you as aggressive in real life or is it just a keyboard thing? Calm down.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 18:08:52 GMT
no -- pussycat really - its just the inbuilt frustration of getting older ( im 59)
but yes - hes a twat - I'm not taking that back !!!!
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Post by jeycov on Aug 28, 2017 18:18:08 GMT
hate to agree with Shearer but why not book the other 6/7 City players in the crowd. To use this as a test case for future examples imo, don't book players still on the "turf", Sterling was still on the grass albeit outside of the lines of the pitch. If the fans come outside of the stands before you get there, tough shit, not the players fault. As a side note; PL is sold as "FANS MAKE IT". World will love that overspill of emotion. Seems like everyone laments the disconnect between fans and players, then as soon as this happens the same people go mad. Aguero has already got a lot of stick (for nothing), but still photos and the original story is that he assaulted a steward. He hasn't. He should he lauded (even if the steward reported an 'alleged' assault), he stuck up for a a human being (who happened to be fan) being assaulted. Or play for West Ham, where there's quite a distance to get to the fans
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Post by duckling on Aug 28, 2017 20:25:44 GMT
I've been kind of annoyed by the coverage of the incident because they almost always refer to it as a red card. It was a yellow card. It just happened to be on top of an earlier yellow.
If Sterling had not committed the earlier yellow card offense, people wouldn't be having this conversation as it would have been shrugged off as a yellow card, of which multiple ones are given every game.
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Post by pavel on Aug 28, 2017 20:37:27 GMT
Entering the crowd is a bookabke offence. However, Sterling I don't think entered the crowd, the crowd had breached the hoardings and were at the side of the pitch. Very harsh as it shouldn't be a booking in the first place IMO Agree, the ref could have used some common sense, but the FA would have probably come down on him. Football is defined by how the football fan is perceived by the establishment, unruly, common and dangerous even in this sanitised age of football. I await a diva at an Opera being penalised and being red carded for encouraging a melee when taking a third bow and the resultant carnage when the audience, consumed by passion, applauds and falls over the very dangerous seats at the theatre with true intent.
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Aug 28, 2017 23:43:06 GMT
Scenes like that is what football is all about.
It should never be a booking for players and fans to enjoy themselves.
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Post by kustokie on Aug 29, 2017 2:51:44 GMT
I am warming up to Sterlling because England need more players like him. It seems to me this was an accident waiting to happen and Sterling did nothing wrong. He stayed on the pitch and the fans surged towards him (and 6 or 7 other ManC players). Luckily no-one was seriously hurt, but they could have been. The Plod and The Jobsworths are hired by the football club to anticipate things like this, by keeping the fans off the pitch and preventing incidents like this from happening in the first place.
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Post by redandwhitetundra on Aug 29, 2017 6:03:52 GMT
It wasn't a red card. It was a yellow card. You can't blame Mike Dean for Sterling having already committed a yellow card offence earlier in the game.
As has already been said, he was correctly shown a yellow card.
The other 7 players weren't because they didn't incite the fans in the same manner as Sterling did; he was the instigator in the sense he ran towards those fans and ran into those fans. Yes the fans were on the turf, but he didn't have to run into them.
As for Ake. I think Dean got that right, too. Jesus didn't have control of the ball as he'd only just tackled Ake, Ake's tackle was part of the same movement, the ball was 20 odd yards away from Jesus and there were two defenders who could intervene in his efforts to get to goal.
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Post by Northy on Aug 29, 2017 6:21:24 GMT
It seems pretty typical Mike Dean. Ake commits a clear sending off offence and gets a yellow card, Sterling scores a winner in the 97th minute against a bunch of time wasting cheating f... wits, on a ground where you only have to breath out to be in contact with the crowd and the worst referee in the history of the game proves he has to be at the centre of attention. It happens with Dean far to often. I just despise the guy. he's not the worst referee in the game, Mike Dean reffed our play off win at Ninian Park all those years ago, sending off a cardiff player I'd go for Styles as a name for one on the worst list. The yellow was deserved, doesn't need to run past stewards and police to go into the crowd, just celebrate with team mates
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 29, 2017 6:25:34 GMT
It wasn't a red card. It was a yellow card. You can't blame Mike Dean for Sterling having already committed a yellow card offence earlier in the game. As has already been said, he was correctly shown a yellow card. The other 7 players weren't because they didn't incite the fans in the same manner as Sterling did; he was the instigator in the sense he ran towards those fans and ran into those fans. Yes the fans were on the turf, but he didn't have to run into them. As for Ake. I think Dean got that right, too. Jesus didn't have control of the ball as he'd only just tackled Ake, Ake's tackle was part of the same movement, the ball was 20 odd yards away from Jesus and there were two defenders who could intervene in his efforts to get to goal. Why didnt the Bournemouth player get a yellow when he scored, he went of the pitch and kicked the advertising hoardings, the only difference being Bournemouth fans did not approach him. It wasnt Sterlings fault that the stewards allowed Man City fans onto the grass. So he was booked because he did something exciting enough to prompt Man City fans to come onto the pitch!..That's a bookable offence???
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 29, 2017 7:14:17 GMT
Sterling should know better but common sense needs to be applied. He went mental and went to the fans that's what football is about.
The fans more importantly shouldn't have ran on the pitch but again I think common sense would dictate that you grab them and throw them back into the crowd.
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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 29, 2017 7:22:05 GMT
Shittest is when they get a yellow card for taking their shirt off and act all indignant.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 29, 2017 7:25:03 GMT
It wasn't a red card. It was a yellow card. You can't blame Mike Dean for Sterling having already committed a yellow card offence earlier in the game. As has already been said, he was correctly shown a yellow card. The other 7 players weren't because they didn't incite the fans in the same manner as Sterling did; he was the instigator in the sense he ran towards those fans and ran into those fans. Yes the fans were on the turf, but he didn't have to run into them. As for Ake. I think Dean got that right, too. Jesus didn't have control of the ball as he'd only just tackled Ake, Ake's tackle was part of the same movement, the ball was 20 odd yards away from Jesus and there were two defenders who could intervene in his efforts to get to goal. Why didnt the Bournemouth player get a yellow when he scored, he went of the pitch and kicked the advertising hoardings, the only difference being Bournemouth fans did not approach him. It wasnt Sterlings fault that the stewards allowed Man City fans onto the grass. So he was booked because he did something exciting enough to prompt Man City fans to come onto the pitch!..That's a bookable offence??? He should have avoided running into them, he saw them there and could have stopped.
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Post by alster on Aug 29, 2017 7:31:28 GMT
Sorry if it's already being discussed elsewhere. What did you make of it? A lot of pundits, Garth Crooks, particularly, have been criticising the decision. I don't often find myself defending Mike Dean, and he certainly made some mistakes today, but what choice does he have when the league dictate to referees that going to the crowd in celebration is a bookable offence? Referees can't start picking and choosing when they want to follow the rules.
Should the rule be changed? Sadly that's exactly what the refs DO do...that said, players know the rules... I wish I did then because I can't for the life of me understand why he booked him. He didn't go into the crowd it came out to him. He didn't leave the field of play anymore than a player preparing to take a throw in. He's been punished for Bournemouth's poor crowd control.
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Post by Vermelho20312505 on Aug 29, 2017 12:21:23 GMT
Sadly that's exactly what the refs DO do...that said, players know the rules... I wish I did then because I can't for the life of me understand why he booked him. He didn't go into the crowd it came out to him. He didn't leave the field of play anymore than a player preparing to take a throw in. He's been punished for Bournemouth's poor crowd control. He blatantly ran up to and jumped into the crowd. Doesn't matter where they were.
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Post by alster on Aug 29, 2017 12:35:27 GMT
I wish I did then because I can't for the life of me understand why he booked him. He didn't go into the crowd it came out to him. He didn't leave the field of play anymore than a player preparing to take a throw in. He's been punished for Bournemouth's poor crowd control. He blatantly ran up to and jumped into the crowd. Doesn't matter where they were. Of course it matters they shouldn't be there. If one of them had stabbed him I suppose that would have been his fault too?
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Post by str8outtahampton on Aug 29, 2017 13:30:46 GMT
One way around cases like this is to allow the team that conceded the goal to kick off whenever they are ready - whether the opposition is back in its own half (and prepared for the kick-off) or not. The scoring team could celebrate as long and hard as it liked. In this instance, Bournemouth would have been attacking probably 3 or 4 players and the goalkeeper. They might just have had time to equalise.
There was an example on FaceTube some while ago - a lower league European match I think - where precisely that happened. While the players of side A were celebrating, side B pretty much walked the ball into an empty net.
The prospect of an immediate restart might concentrate the minds of the scoring side - and might in addition reduce the number of awful, choreographed, unfunny celebrations.
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Post by miggoscfc on Aug 29, 2017 15:23:47 GMT
In all fairness I understand the rule. If you have young children or elderley in the front rows do you want the crowd surging forward because a player jumped in there.
Might be a case of health and safety gone mad but the player always has the option of coming to the crowd after the final whistle and doing some photos, autographs a sing song whatever.
Let's not forget we lost an elderly fan a few years ago after a fall at a game so accidents happening are not as not as crazy as you may think.
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Post by Vermelho20312505 on Aug 29, 2017 15:34:49 GMT
He blatantly ran up to and jumped into the crowd. Doesn't matter where they were. Of course it matters they shouldn't be there. If one of them had stabbed him I suppose that would have been his fault too? Why would they have stabbed him? If you don't think he ran into the fans then you're a muppet. He didn't just run in that direction and to his shock there were a load of fans hanging out there. He chose to run there and jump into them plain and simply. Most other people argue that it's a stupid rule. You on the other hand argue that the encroachment of the fans by a few yards means the fans can no longer be avoided. Typical.
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Post by Vermelho20312505 on Aug 29, 2017 15:36:54 GMT
Of course it matters they shouldn't be there. If one of them had stabbed him I suppose that would have been his fault too? Why would they have stabbed him? If you don't think he ran into the fans then you're a muppet. He didn't just run in that direction and to his shock there were a load of fans hanging out there. He chose to run there and jump into them plain and simply. Most other people argue that it's a stupid rule. You on the other hand argue that the encroachment of the fans by a few yards means the fans can no longer be avoided. Typical. BTW. If they had inexplicably stabbed him. You'd no doubt be waking why he chose to run straight into them.
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Post by alster on Aug 29, 2017 15:45:46 GMT
Of course it matters they shouldn't be there. If one of them had stabbed him I suppose that would have been his fault too? Why would they have stabbed him? If you don't think he ran into the fans then you're a muppet. He didn't just run in that direction and to his shock there were a load of fans hanging out there. He chose to run there and jump into them plain and simply. Most other people argue that it's a stupid rule. You on the other hand argue that the encroachment of the fans by a few yards means the fans can no longer be avoided. Typical. I've never said that they couldn't be avoided just that they were the ones who weren't supposed to be there, he was going about his rightful business celebrating his goal, pumped. What you don't think there could have been some random nutter mixed in with them. If he did get harmed would AFC Bournemouth, the fan who stabbed him and the other fans who invaded the playing area be absolved of blame because Sterling was pumped at scoring an injury time winner?
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Post by alster on Aug 29, 2017 15:48:39 GMT
Why would they have stabbed him? If you don't think he ran into the fans then you're a muppet. He didn't just run in that direction and to his shock there were a load of fans hanging out there. He chose to run there and jump into them plain and simply. Most other people argue that it's a stupid rule. You on the other hand argue that the encroachment of the fans by a few yards means the fans can no longer be avoided. Typical. BTW. If they had inexplicably stabbed him. You'd no doubt be waking why he chose to run straight into them. Kind of like saying if you were wearing club colours at an away match and get stabbed it serves you right or if I walked through Moss side and got stabbed it serves me right for going there.
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Post by alster on Aug 29, 2017 15:51:07 GMT
Why would they have stabbed him? If you don't think he ran into the fans then you're a muppet. He didn't just run in that direction and to his shock there were a load of fans hanging out there. He chose to run there and jump into them plain and simply. Most other people argue that it's a stupid rule. You on the other hand argue that the encroachment of the fans by a few yards means the fans can no longer be avoided. Typical. BTW. If they had inexplicably stabbed him. You'd no doubt be waking why he chose to run straight into them. Why is it inexplicable a tennis fan stabbed Monica Seles. You get 10,000 or more people in one place its a fair bet there's a fair few lunatics mixed in.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 16:00:59 GMT
Rumour has it that Arsenal want him in part exchange for Sanchez. He would fit in well with all those tarts there!
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