|
Post by RichJonesy on Aug 23, 2017 18:00:45 GMT
It's shocking that our JCL's don't know this. I'm pretty sure duckling is American right? So he'd not know about this. Fair play to him for choosing Stoke if you ask me. Or her...?
|
|
|
Post by duckling on Aug 24, 2017 0:09:58 GMT
Their fans aren't particularly happy about this or the direction in which the club is going.... Blue MoonBoo fucking hoo It seems some season ticket holders lost their seats to make way for the tunnel club. In addition a wall of memorial plaques was removed without warning. The fans had paid for the plaques back in 2004 at which time it was sold as a 10 year plaque. Fair enough they already got an extra 3 years, but it would have been nice for them to find out that the plaques were being removed from a source other than Twitter.
|
|
|
Post by rawli on Aug 24, 2017 5:05:33 GMT
It seems some season ticket holders lost their seats to make way for the tunnel club. In addition a wall of memorial plaques was removed without warning. The fans had paid for the plaques back in 2004 at which time it was sold as a 10 year plaque. Fair enough they already got an extra 3 years, but it would have been nice for them to find out that the plaques were being removed from a source other than Twitter. Boo fucking hoo
|
|
|
Post by GoBoks on Aug 24, 2017 10:39:03 GMT
People often forget that our real wilderness years was between 1907 & 1932, but during our second (and more painful for most of us) wilderness years, Man City played in the same division as us for 5 out of twentysome years. Anorak. It seemed more. Fudger, don't let facts come in the way of the point you want to make.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2017 11:31:41 GMT
What a strange day that was. There were pockets of Man City fans, sat in different parts of the ground among the Stoke fans. The match was a sell out and some City fans that couldn't get tickets in the away end managed to acquire them in ours. Every now and then a group of them would charge across the pitch in a bid to get to their own end before the stewards or police could nab them. There would be spontaneous fights around the ground as City fans were outed either by their accents or cheers. From time to time you'd see someone literally thrown a out of their seats by Stoke fans, I remember one guy in the east stand being launched over a few rows! We lost 2-5 iirc.....bad times.... And Vale stayed up. 😀
|
|
|
Post by mrred on Aug 24, 2017 12:17:32 GMT
Their fans aren't particularly happy about this or the direction in which the club is going.... Modern football in a nutshell. I've got a mate that's nearly 40 years into Man City fandom and he recoiled in horror when he saw the cat walk, the clinical white changing rooms and this glass tunnel shite. It's the Premier League at it's absolute greasy, money grabbing worst.
|
|
|
Post by Veritas on Aug 24, 2017 12:19:49 GMT
Great quote from the original Guardian blog which is now printed in full in todays paper.
Some City fans, would you believe, found themselves slightly less enamoured of the place as they watched the Sky coverage. A quick trawl through social media found various dissenting voices – for instance, the fan who spotted a chap in blazer and yellow trousers and pronounced it “everything wrong with football and our club”.
On the one hand, you have to marvel at the Premier League’s endlessly restless search for the definitive piece of twattery. You think it’s settled – Ashley Cole shoots a work experience person, or Mark Clattenburg calls a press conference in Jeddah to announce he has signed to “educate” Saudi referees – but it never is, as the twattery continues to unfurl itself like an eternal lotus blossom.
|
|
|
Post by mrred on Aug 24, 2017 12:29:01 GMT
If they're that fuckin stupid how come they've got so much money? Well, you don't have to be intelligent to be wealthy. If you were offered a free game in a tunnel club, Real Madrid vs Barcelona, would it not interest you at all? It's a bit like a fucking zoo, only I can't help but think who would feel the most retarded? The players or the excitable, salivating ***** behind the glass. I can't think how anyone would think this is a good idea.
|
|
|
Post by riccyfuller93 on Aug 24, 2017 12:32:06 GMT
Well, you don't have to be intelligent to be wealthy. If you were offered a free game in a tunnel club, Real Madrid vs Barcelona, would it not interest you at all? It's a bit like a fucking zoo, only I can't help but think who would feel the most retarded? The players or the excitable, salivating ***** behind the glass. I can't think how anyone would think this is a good idea. It's all business. For the wealthy fans.
|
|
|
Post by mrred on Aug 24, 2017 12:46:41 GMT
It's a bit like a fucking zoo, only I can't help but think who would feel the most retarded? The players or the excitable, salivating ***** behind the glass. I can't think how anyone would think this is a good idea. It's all business. For the wealthy fans. And you think it's a cool idea?
|
|
|
Post by riccyfuller93 on Aug 24, 2017 12:49:22 GMT
It's all business. For the wealthy fans. And you think it's a cool idea? I couldn't give a shit about it. Let alone afford it.
|
|
|
Post by mrred on Aug 24, 2017 12:53:01 GMT
And you think it's a cool idea? I couldn't give a shit about it. Let alone afford it. Not what you said on the other page, but I won't argue. Horribly conceived idea by people completely out of touch with the majority of their fans. The new Man City dressing room if anyone's interested.
|
|
|
Post by Trouserdog on Aug 24, 2017 15:47:56 GMT
I couldn't give a shit about it. Let alone afford it. Not what you said on the other page, but I won't argue. Horribly conceived idea by people completely out of touch with the majority of their fans. The new Man City dressing room if anyone's interested. Imagine what would happen if Wimbledon's old Crazy Gang played a game at The Etihad? I reckon that Manchester City badge on the flor would have a little deposit left on it.
|
|
|
Post by riccyfuller93 on Aug 24, 2017 16:08:05 GMT
I couldn't give a shit about it. Let alone afford it. Not what you said on the other page, but I won't argue. Horribly conceived idea by people completely out of touch with the majority of their fans. The new Man City dressing room if anyone's interested. What did I say on the other page? If I was offered to go for free to see what it's like I wouldn't turn it down.
|
|
|
Post by duckling on Aug 24, 2017 16:16:59 GMT
I couldn't give a shit about it. Let alone afford it. Not what you said on the other page, but I won't argue. Horribly conceived idea by people completely out of touch with the majority of their fans. The new Man City dressing room if anyone's interested. It reminds me of a North Korean government assembly room.
|
|
|
Post by kaney78 on Aug 24, 2017 22:07:37 GMT
We lost 2-5 iirc.....bad times.... I chose to forget that part! We were woeful. After their fourth or fifth didn't Peter Thorne just belt one of the kick offs straight at goal. Or was that the seven nil home defeat to Birmingham? Some of the wilderness years just seem to merge together as one! Strange atmosphere. In the end we both went down. Man city fans everywhere, mayhem
|
|
|
Post by duckling on Aug 24, 2017 22:51:12 GMT
The tunnel club isn't even the most expensive offering. The Platinum box is £57,272 per person It doesn't even sound that special. Food: The choice of formal or informal dining Bar: Complimentary bar (beer, wine and soft drinks) Stadium seating: Luxury, padded, executive seats on Level 2, immediately outside your private balcony Additional extras: Private balcony with commanding panoramic views of the pitch; glass of Champagne on arrival; plasma screen They also offer the All Access Areas pass which is £25,000 per match but you are allowed to bring 20 guests into the box. It's unclear whether the guests get the features listed in the additional extras section. Food: Bespoke choice menu of informal or formal dining Bar: Inclusive Champagne, house wine, beer and soft drinks Stadium seating: Luxury, padded executive seats on your private balcony for twenty guests Additional extras: Enjoy a tour of the City Football Academy, visit the Media Centre; Dine in the players refectory; greet the players on the blue carpet arrival; visit from a first team player; branding opportunities; pitch-side access during warm-up; performance analyst to talk you through the tactics of the game ahead; dedicated photographer to capture the day www.mancity.com/hospitality/listing
|
|
|
Post by rawli on Aug 25, 2017 6:47:19 GMT
Not what you said on the other page, but I won't argue. Horribly conceived idea by people completely out of touch with the majority of their fans. The new Man City dressing room if anyone's interested. It reminds me of a North Korean government assembly room. Expecting Darth Vader to appear
|
|
|
Post by nik80 on Aug 25, 2017 7:19:29 GMT
I chose to forget that part! We were woeful. After their fourth or fifth didn't Peter Thorne just belt one of the kick offs straight at goal. Or was that the seven nil home defeat to Birmingham? Some of the wilderness years just seem to merge together as one! I often wonder what it must be like to have only really known PL Stoke City. The years prior to 2008 were in some places, too painful to recall... weird isn't it? I've been watching Stoke since1989 and I still feel like one of the youngsters! Can't imagine not knowing how poor we've been. That day when we both got relegated just doesn't seem that long ago to me, yet football and both sides, to some extent have changed beyond recognition; forever and not necessarily for better. I don't remember football from 1978 because I wasn't born, obviously it resembles what I grew up with in the 1980s but I wonder how drastically the game had changed from then until that fateful match vs Man City, can't be anything like how it's changed from 97-98 till now though. Appreciate we were in the second tier at the time.
|
|
|
Post by Stoke711 on Aug 25, 2017 7:46:41 GMT
What were Manchester City like before the big money? My impression is that they were a pretty down to earth local oriented club that mostly finished mid table in the top tier and were vulnerable to relegation like all mid table teams. They were in the third tier with us 20 years ago. We went down together on the final day of the season in a day of carnage at the Brit. Will always remember Paul Dickov giving us the V sign, because we told him they're going down with us as Bury(I think) were winning.
|
|
|
Post by nik80 on Aug 25, 2017 8:19:14 GMT
Whats cool about looking at some blokes standing about? It's a different experience than the common person's match day. You're closer to the players, you're part of a fancy club where you can brag to your other wealthy friends, and I guess people like to feel closer to the players? Something for people with more money than sense I'd imagine. Still pretty cool though. And therein lies the difference between older and younger football supporters I guess. I just don't get it? It's a football match, not the catwalks of Milan. Players lounge, boxes, and all that shit, I can just about understand, I don't see the point in this at all. I like my football common I suppose
|
|
|
Post by superheroantonius on Aug 25, 2017 8:24:36 GMT
For anyone over 50 it's an example ( in 15 foot high neon lettering) of how Society has changed since the 1970's
I am reading a book... 1971 by david hepworth
In 1971 kevin keegan signed for Liverpool on 50 quid a week, slightly more than the average wage of just under 2 grand a year
Football admission was around 20 p. Even when stoke city played Chelsea in the league Cup final a year later a terrace ticket for the final was 60p
A concert ticket to see led zeppelin 60 p. A concert ticket to see david bowie 50 p
Or if you prefer go and watch david bowie at glastonbury as it was free in those days. Infact a few people bumped into him walking to the pyramid stage with his three musketeers hat on from a country railway station about six miles away.
|
|
|
Post by mrred on Aug 25, 2017 8:36:05 GMT
Not what you said on the other page, but I won't argue. Horribly conceived idea by people completely out of touch with the majority of their fans. The new Man City dressing room if anyone's interested. What did I say on the other page? If I was offered to go for free to see what it's like I wouldn't turn it down. Pretty cool idea etc. Albeit stupidly expensive. Nik80 has highlighted it a few responses up the page. It puts footballers on an even higher pedestal than before in a shiny clinical box wherein you can look but must never interact with. For the most part they're just normal blokes that would have otherwise plumbed toilets or chavs / 'lads' that you get up town on a weekend if it weren't for their extremely gifted talent in kicking a football.
|
|
|
Post by nik80 on Aug 25, 2017 9:43:56 GMT
What did I say on the other page? If I was offered to go for free to see what it's like I wouldn't turn it down. Pretty cool idea etc. Albeit stupidly expensive. Nik80 has highlighted it a few responses up the page. It puts footballers on an even higher pedestal than before in a shiny clinical box wherein you can look but must never interact with. For the most part they're just normal blokes that would have otherwise plumbed toilets or chavs / 'lads' that you get up town on a weekend if it weren't for their extremely gifted talent in kicking a football. Football at the top level has gone way too far. So sad that it can't go back, obviously it can't. I've never really considered football players as real superstars, barring Maradona, Gazza and one or two others of course. You used to see players turn up at the ground, even the big named players and they were, for the most part pretty normal people; this idea of parading them around like show ponies is just really starnge. Can't believe that there's much cause for it either, but as Fuller93 says, people have more money than sense
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2017 9:49:31 GMT
The modern day footballer (the majority) in a nutshell....
|
|
|
Post by madnellie on Aug 25, 2017 10:50:29 GMT
The modern day footballer (the majority) in a nutshell.... I'm not at all surprised at the two who actually interacted with the fans, especially Milner he always comes across as a thoroughly decent guy. As a contrast, back in 2012 I met the GB women's team right after their loss to Canada in the Olympic quarter finals. Despite the fact they'd just been unceremoniously knocked out of their home tournament (and probably the only one they will get to represent Team GB at) they spent some time talking to fans, posing for pictures, signing autographs etc. I also met the Canadian team, who were absolutely lovely also, but I was quite taken with just how forthcoming the GB girls were after such a grim defeat. I think many (but not all) modern day Prem. footballers are just so far removed and cosseted from the real world now that they don't realise how spoilt and arrogant they can come across at times. And now Citeh have decided to put them into a fishbowl I'm sure it will only get worse.
|
|
|
Post by riccyfuller93 on Aug 25, 2017 13:23:39 GMT
It's a different experience than the common person's match day. You're closer to the players, you're part of a fancy club where you can brag to your other wealthy friends, and I guess people like to feel closer to the players? Something for people with more money than sense I'd imagine. Still pretty cool though. And therein lies the difference between older and younger football supporters I guess. I just don't get it? It's a football match, not the catwalks of Milan. Players lounge, boxes, and all that shit, I can just about understand, I don't see the point in this at all. I like my football common I suppose Isn't it just similar as when people go to meet the players? Or the awards night? It's just another way to be closer to the players.
|
|
|
Post by nik80 on Aug 25, 2017 14:47:27 GMT
And therein lies the difference between older and younger football supporters I guess. I just don't get it? It's a football match, not the catwalks of Milan. Players lounge, boxes, and all that shit, I can just about understand, I don't see the point in this at all. I like my football common I suppose Isn't it just similar as when people go to meet the players? Or the awards night? It's just another way to be closer to the players. Perhaps, but in those circumstances the players aren't getting ready to play a match. Maybe it's more similar to being a mascot; a £15,000 paying, grown mascot
|
|
|
Post by CalgaryPotter on Aug 25, 2017 14:55:45 GMT
They were in the third tier with us 20 years ago. We went down together on the final day of the season in a day of carnage at the Brit. It's shocking that our JCL's don't know this. A mad day finished off with a few pints in the Dunrobin. Work was not easy the next day
|
|
|
Post by riccyfuller93 on Aug 25, 2017 15:40:34 GMT
Isn't it just similar as when people go to meet the players? Or the awards night? It's just another way to be closer to the players. Perhaps, but in those circumstances the players aren't getting ready to play a match. Maybe it's more similar to being a mascot; a £15,000 paying, grown mascot Like I said, most of us aren't fussed about that, but some people would love it and others would just do it because they can do it (wealthy)
|
|