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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 6:57:30 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 8:32:30 GMT
Dark and sinister things going on about Jack right now
1) certain parts of the media trying to install the Everton goalie above him as number 1 England contender- which of course is, ridiculous
2) Manchester United have already begun their 'tapping campaign' / charm offensive for him if / when De Gea Leaves
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Post by MilanStokie on Aug 22, 2017 8:34:18 GMT
Dark and sinister things going on about Jack right now 1) certain parts of the media trying to install the Everton goalie above him as number 1 England contender- which of course is, ridiculous 2) Manchester United have already begun their 'tapping campaign' / charm offensive for him if / when De Gea Leaves I've not followed it that much but where is the evidence that Manchester Utd are doing what you claim?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 8:44:24 GMT
yes - hearing plenty in the media last few days - even BT sport Saturday nite post match i.e.
he was asked outright by the pundits in the bet 365 studio
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 8:47:07 GMT
Yes, make the top teams stronger. Again. I've heard them mentioned as well. The last club I want to see him go to. I'd sooner the shit keep De Gea, and Jack go to Real Madrid. Hate em. End of!
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Post by davers66 on Aug 22, 2017 8:56:21 GMT
Lets face it, if he stays fit and plays he will become Englands number one. In which case, probably next summer, he will leave Stoke - unless we do a Leicester! Sad for us but also what we should be hoping for for Jack. When that time comes it does not matter where he goes but the top dollar we can get for him. Hopefully we can get ManU to part for 50M + and a record for a keeper.
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Post by walrus on Aug 22, 2017 9:00:07 GMT
Barring another serious injury we will end up with a huge transfer fee for Jack. It may be an inadvertent final gift from Pulis. The £3.3 million we paid for him is looking like incredibly good business.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 9:01:12 GMT
Barring another serious injury we will end up with a huge transfer fee for Jack. It may be an inadvertent final gift from Pulis. The £3.3 million we paid for him is looking like incredibly good business. Don't you mean one of the first gifts from Mr Cartwright?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 9:01:15 GMT
Dark and sinister things going on about Jack right now 1) certain parts of the media trying to install the Everton goalie above him as number 1 England contender- which of course is, ridiculous 2) Manchester United have already begun their 'tapping campaign' / charm offensive for him if / when De Gea Leaves If Butland has the type of season we know he's capable of then he goes at the end of the season it's as simple as that. We need to be looking for a long term replacement as well as making sure we get as much as possible for him when the time comes......
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Post by greyman on Aug 22, 2017 9:11:11 GMT
Dark and sinister things going on about Jack right now 1) certain parts of the media trying to install the Everton goalie above him as number 1 England contender- which of course is, ridiculous 2) Manchester United have already begun their 'tapping campaign' / charm offensive for him if / when De Gea Leaves If Butland has the type of season we know he's capable of then he goes at the end of the season it's as simple as that. We need to be looking for a long term replacement as well as making sure we get as much as possible for him when the time comes...... We need two new goalkeepers. In the meantime, we need to enjoy and appreciate him while he's here. Fantastic goalkeeper and a winner.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Aug 22, 2017 9:15:13 GMT
If he'd had a full season last season, he may well have gone this time around and been England's No.1 already. As it is, everything has been pushed back a year. I still think Hart will start in the qualifier. The Pickford lovefest is ridiculous. He looks a very good 'keeper, but needs to take his place in the queue.
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Post by MilanStokie on Aug 22, 2017 9:30:14 GMT
Barring another serious injury we will end up with a huge transfer fee for Jack. It may be an inadvertent final gift from Pulis. The £3.3 million we paid for him is looking like incredibly good business. I often cast my mind back to the time when he was due to take over from Begovic and many said he was nowhere near ready. I am so glad he got his chance and turned into (in my opinion) one of the top 10 keepers in the world.
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Post by scfcwebby on Aug 22, 2017 9:40:11 GMT
Barring another serious injury we will end up with a huge transfer fee for Jack. It may be an inadvertent final gift from Pulis. The £3.3 million we paid for him is looking like incredibly good business. Pulis didn't want to sign him
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 9:40:41 GMT
yep I was one questioning his readiness
happily - I was totally wrong
and his recent experiences injury wise, only make him stronger as a person
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Post by Gods on Aug 22, 2017 9:43:10 GMT
Did anyone hear a Spurs fan call in to the Radio 5 606 chat show on Sunday?
He was lamenting the error of Hugo Lloris against Chelsea and his fix for the problem was that Spurs should sign Jack Butland to add some competition for Lloris and keep him on his mettle.
It always amuses me the arrogance of some of the fans of the big clubs.
To be fair to Ian Wright he was very quick to slap the guy down, 'Jack Butland is not a number 2' he told him almost before the fella could finish his sentence!
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 22, 2017 9:43:25 GMT
Butland to Man Utd next season isn't as nailed on as you'd think. José has a hard on for Donnurruma of Milan.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 22, 2017 9:44:48 GMT
Did anyone hear a Spurs fan call in to the Radio 5 606 chat show on Sunday? He was lamenting the error of Hugo Lloris against Chelsea and his fix for the problem was that Spurs should sign Jack Butland to add some competition for Lloris and keep him on his mettle. It always amuses me the arrogance of some of the fans of the big clubs. To be fair to Ian Wright he was very quick to slap the guy down, 'Jack Butland is not a number 2' he told him almost before the fella could finish his sentence! I've been saying for years Lloris is one of the most overrated keepers in the Premier League, I'm surprised his ability and position as Spurs' number 1 hasn't been questioned until now tbh.
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Post by walrus on Aug 22, 2017 10:03:59 GMT
Barring another serious injury we will end up with a huge transfer fee for Jack. It may be an inadvertent final gift from Pulis. The £3.3 million we paid for him is looking like incredibly good business. Pulis didn't want to sign him Inadvertent
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 10:39:08 GMT
Can't help thinking that keepers should be at a smaller club so they see some action.
Standing on the goal line watching the match for 80 out of 90 minutes is probably what has destroyed Hart as concentration is his biggest flaw.
Jack's best quality is his braveness he just dives right in there face first.
I suppose it doesn't really matter where he goes (except Arsenal)we will always see him as a Stokie.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Aug 22, 2017 11:34:55 GMT
Only question is where he goes next year if he has a good season for us. I would say not yet back to his peak, missed punch first half, fumble in the second, couple of poor kicks. He is a bit off match sharpness understandably but this will soon be there.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 22, 2017 11:38:42 GMT
Funny how our team looks better now we have a decent keeper between the sticks.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Aug 22, 2017 11:41:14 GMT
Dark and sinister things going on about Jack right now 1) certain parts of the media trying to install the Everton goalie above him as number 1 England contender- which of course is, ridiculous 2) Manchester United have already begun their 'tapping campaign' / charm offensive for him if / when De Gea Leaves Pickford has been excellent though.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 22, 2017 11:43:32 GMT
Dark and sinister things going on about Jack right now 1) certain parts of the media trying to install the Everton goalie above him as number 1 England contender- which of course is, ridiculous 2) Manchester United have already begun their 'tapping campaign' / charm offensive for him if / when De Gea Leaves Pickford has been excellent though. Butland is England's best. Pickford is number 2. Hart wouldn't even be called up if I was in charge.
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Post by Hannibal on Aug 22, 2017 11:45:52 GMT
Especially being English, he is worth even more money
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Aug 22, 2017 11:46:24 GMT
Pickford has been excellent though. Butland is England's best. Pickford is number 2. Hart wouldn't even be called up if I was in charge. If Butland keeps putting in performances like that. Pickford also was amazing against us and throughout the whole of last season. He shouldn't be overlooked.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Aug 22, 2017 11:47:47 GMT
Pickford has been excellent though. Butland is England's best. Pickford is number 2. Hart wouldn't even be called up if I was in charge. That's the way I see it as well. Hart seems to be under considerable mental pressure at the moment. I thought watching some of his antics for West Ham the other day that he looked like a bloke who is not at ease with himself. Of all the positions on the pitch, keepers need to be calm and level headed - and that is not a description which applies to Hart these days.
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Post by thebet365 on Aug 22, 2017 11:51:50 GMT
Dark and sinister things going on about Jack right now 1) certain parts of the media trying to install the Everton goalie above him as number 1 England contender- which of course is, ridiculous 2) Manchester United have already begun their 'tapping campaign' / charm offensive for him if / when De Gea Leaves Pickford has been excellent though. So has Butland, they've done everything right with him thus far, come up through all the England ranks, involved him with the England squad and then just as he was pushing Hart for the Jersey struck by injury, nobody has taken up the mantle whilst he's been out. Pickford is an excellent back up but it should be Jack's Shirt to lose if we finally move Hart out the way.
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Post by greyman on Aug 22, 2017 11:52:10 GMT
Butland is England's best. Pickford is number 2. Hart wouldn't even be called up if I was in charge. That's the way I see it as well. Hart seems to be under considerable mental pressure at the moment. I thought watching some of his antics for West Ham the other day that he looked like a bloke who is not at ease with himself. Of all the positions on the pitch, keepers need to be calm and level headed - and that is not a description which applies to Hart these days. Goalies are like golfers. Once they've got the yips, they just can't get back to what they were. Look at Rob Green.
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Post by jezzascfc on Aug 22, 2017 11:55:25 GMT
Jack will unfortunately go next summer to a top 6 club. We need to make sure we get 50m for him as he is that good.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Aug 22, 2017 11:59:07 GMT
Pickford is a mile off Butland's level in my opinion. Heaton is probably the second best goalkeeper, then probably Pickford. Hart is done and Forster isn't great either.
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