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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jul 25, 2017 14:38:22 GMT
Forgetting everything else about this deal and any potential reasons it won't happen, the biggest single problem for me is that the fee would virtually blow our transfer kitty.
For that reason, I'm out (as much as I'd love him to sign).
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 25, 2017 14:39:15 GMT
Forgetting everything else about this deal and any potential reasons it won't happen, the biggest single problem for me is that the fee would virtually blow our transfer kitty. For that reason, I'm out (as much as I'd love him to sign). It will just be replacing Arnie. We will still have more money to spend. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 25, 2017 14:40:06 GMT
Forgetting everything else about this deal and any potential reasons it won't happen, the biggest single problem for me is that the fee would virtually blow our transfer kitty. For that reason, I'm out (as much as I'd love him to sign). Wouldn't it just be the (unexpected and unbudgeted for) Arnie money? Depends what we think the pre-Arnie budget was? Can't believe that with such surgery needed it was the pittance floated in the Mirror the other day. If it was, we're in trouble |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 14:40:43 GMT
Forgetting everything else about this deal and any potential reasons it won't happen, the biggest single problem for me is that the fee would virtually blow our transfer kitty. For that reason, I'm out (as much as I'd love him to sign). I reckon the days of transfer kitties are over, if the club would buy any player so long as it's deemed to be the right price. |
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Post by duckling on Jul 25, 2017 14:43:59 GMT
Forgetting everything else about this deal and any potential reasons it won't happen, the biggest single problem for me is that the fee would virtually blow our transfer kitty. For that reason, I'm out (as much as I'd love him to sign). Wouldn't it just be the (unexpected and unbudgeted for) Arnie money? Depends what we think the pre-Arnie budget was? Can't believe that with such surgery needed it was the pittance floated in the Mirror the other day. If it was, we're in trouble He's young, so if he becomes good the club could sell him for even more in a few years. I'd be more concerned about the wages. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 14:44:41 GMT
Love him but can't see it happening. What's to love about him exactly? Nice eyes  |
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Post by liamo on Jul 25, 2017 14:46:15 GMT
Regardless of transfer kitties or whatever, there's certain players you don't turn your nose up at, if he showed interest in coming here the funds would magically appear no doubt
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Post by Clayton Wood on Jul 25, 2017 14:46:33 GMT
Forgetting everything else about this deal and any potential reasons it won't happen, the biggest single problem for me is that the fee would virtually blow our transfer kitty. For that reason, I'm out (as much as I'd love him to sign). Wouldn't it just be the (unexpected and unbudgeted for) Arnie money? Depends what we think the pre-Arnie budget was? Can't believe that with such surgery needed it was the pittance floated in the Mirror the other day. If it was, we're in trouble Though nobody has actually said as much, the add ons is £4/£5m of the Arnie deal, so hopefully the bulk is up front. Arsenal won't want to do us any favours but, if this was structured in the same way it might give us an advantage over a similar sized club. Which might just push us up the queue a bit with the Arse. Money talks. |
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Post by walton corner on Jul 25, 2017 14:47:22 GMT
What is Stoke transfer kitty ...we have got in 29 million ish ..probably another 10 with imbula ....surely Stoke now have 60 million ish kitty
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Post by metalhead on Jul 25, 2017 14:47:33 GMT
I have two questions. Since when did I say the money for Arnie was not enough? I've said all along I think we got an excellent sum for Arnie, when you take everything into account. Do you want me to find those posts or will you just take what I've said there on face value? Secondly, since when were you a talent scout? Send your CV to the club mate. We need to know all the players with more potential than Arnie, pick them up for cheap. Currently, as it stands, Ox is nowhere near Arnie's level and seems to have a bit of a chip on his shoulder as well to deal with. The one thing he has on Arnie is the ability to dive and feign injury, suppose that's just an Arsenal talent. Throw in the fact we'll be dealing the Arse and we all know that with the prior animosity will add tension to the deal. 25 million.... Massive gamble. Massive. Really????? No top CL club would be interested in Arni, but plenty would take a good look at Ox. Why do some Stoke fans have such inflated views on the likes of Arni, N'Zonzi, Begovic? Of them Bego got as far as Chelsea's bench and ELC team. Ox is a young hot property, who makes a difference. Unfortunately for him at Arsenal he is competing with some of the world's top players to get in the first XI. I don't, but I could easily counter your question by asking why you have such an inflated view of Ox? What? Because he plays for the bandits he must be good? You've been reading from the book of Greg Dyke's haven't you buddy? Same with Callum Chambers.... I'm guessing he's the best centre half in England. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 14:48:27 GMT
If PC wanted to spend £50 million he could he just chooses not to thats all.
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Post by metalhead on Jul 25, 2017 14:49:57 GMT
I have two questions. Since when did I say the money for Arnie was not enough? I've said all along I think we got an excellent sum for Arnie, when you take everything into account. Do you want me to find those posts or will you just take what I've said there on face value? Secondly, since when were you a talent scout? Send your CV to the club mate. We need to know all the players with more potential than Arnie, pick them up for cheap. Currently, as it stands, Ox is nowhere near Arnie's level and seems to have a bit of a chip on his shoulder as well to deal with. The one thing he has on Arnie is the ability to dive and feign injury, suppose that's just an Arsenal talent. Throw in the fact we'll be dealing the Arse and we all know that with the prior animosity will add tension to the deal. 25 million.... Massive gamble. Massive. You are doing him a massive, massive injustice. Arnie or Ox? |
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Post by metalhead on Jul 25, 2017 14:50:45 GMT
What's to love about him exactly? Nice eyes Suppose he's related to Mark. That's the only reason I have any time for him. Other than that, he's a typical chip on his shoulder diving Arsenal scummer. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 14:52:25 GMT
Nice eyes Suppose he's related to Mark. That's the only reason I have any time for him. Other than that, he's a typical chip on his shoulder diving Arsenal scummer. If he's even half as good as his dad was for us he would be a bargain. |
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Post by Gifton on Jul 25, 2017 14:54:56 GMT
I don't know what's more ridiculous, people thinking we have a chance of signing him or the two or three idiots who've said "no thanks"
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 25, 2017 14:55:41 GMT
I don't know what's more ridiculous, people thinking we have a chance of signing him or the two or three idiots who've said "no thanks" Why don't we have a chance? We managed to get Shaqiri here, there's always a chance. |
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Post by ladyinred on Jul 25, 2017 14:58:52 GMT
Even IF this is a go-er.
No chance of it happening before the 19th August - that would just be stupid from Arsenal.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 25, 2017 15:00:30 GMT
Even IF this is a go-er. No chance of it happening before the 19th August - that would just be stupid from Arsenal. Why? This is how transfer business works. They're bringing in Lemar and Ox was already has been linked away from the club for a while now. |
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Post by Onneravineet on Jul 25, 2017 15:01:19 GMT
Forgetting everything else about this deal and any potential reasons it won't happen, the biggest single problem for me is that the fee would virtually blow our transfer kitty. For that reason, I'm out (as much as I'd love him to sign). Chelsea made a derisory offer of £10m. We could double that easily but to romantically have the son of a City wonder winger playing in the Prem!?!?!?!?!? I can see the dong getting long for this. |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 25, 2017 15:02:19 GMT
I don't understand people saying Arsenal won't do business with us. They're far more likely to sell to us than they are to a direct rival that's for sure.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 15:03:30 GMT
I don't know what's more ridiculous, people thinking we have a chance of signing him or the two or three idiots who've said "no thanks" Why don't we have a chance? We managed to get Shaqiri here, there's always a chance. This ^ |
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Post by bertiestan on Jul 25, 2017 15:06:00 GMT
People seem to forget we are an established premier league club, he also needs games what we can offer to get in the England squad, its not so far fetched.
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Post by Onneravineet on Jul 25, 2017 15:07:39 GMT
Please Uncle Peter PLEASE move heaven and earth to make him our player and then build the team around him!!!!*
*for purely emotional reasons please excuse the writer of this post who is obviously allowing themselves to be carried away at the sheer prospect of The Ox ever signing for Stoke. For the Arse fans that may come over to take the piss and see us Stokies get carried away at this incredible long shot..get fucked, you're going to lose Sanchez, now go and fuck off and cry into your fennell bagel, super food salad and moth milk infused smoothie you fucking twat.
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Post by canadianmoose on Jul 25, 2017 15:08:45 GMT
If he really wants guaranteed first team football and be a big fish in a smaller pond, he could do far worse than consider signing. I doubt the wages we could put on the table would be less than he makes now. Its a real chance to do well, make a strong claim for the England world cup squad and then maybe he can move on again for a huge profit to a Champions League outfit if so desired. Buy for 25 million, sell for 40-50 million perhaps? Its good business for both Stoke and Chamberlain.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jul 25, 2017 15:08:48 GMT
Forgetting everything else about this deal and any potential reasons it won't happen, the biggest single problem for me is that the fee would virtually blow our transfer kitty. For that reason, I'm out (as much as I'd love him to sign). It will just be replacing Arnie. We will still have more money to spend. I think it might be less than many hope though. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 15:09:29 GMT
You are doing him a massive, massive injustice. Arnie or Ox? Ox. |
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jul 25, 2017 15:09:44 GMT
I don't know what's more ridiculous, people thinking we have a chance of signing him or the two or three idiots who've said "no thanks" Why don't we have a chance? We managed to get Shaqiri here, there's always a chance. Maybe because Chelsea and Liverpool didnt want Shaq and he was at a club that wanted rid of him , Mancini was practically shoving him out of the door at Inter , Wenger is happy for him to stay |
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Post by Biblical on Jul 25, 2017 15:20:33 GMT
He'd be an excellent signing but the chances of actually pulling it off are slim surely?
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 25, 2017 15:22:27 GMT
Why don't we have a chance? We managed to get Shaqiri here, there's always a chance. Maybe because Chelsea and Liverpool didnt want Shaq and he was at a club that wanted rid of him , Mancini was practically shoving him out of the door at Inter , Wenger is happy for him to stay If you think he will get in at Chelsea and Liverpool then you're mistaken. |
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Post by stokemark on Jul 25, 2017 15:24:11 GMT
The original article in 'The Sun' refers to us being 'light upfront with Ibrahim Affellay admin of our 'few options in that position'
So much for journalistic accuracy
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