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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 31, 2017 18:20:45 GMT
Must admit I don't watch a lot of Womens Nogger, but they do seem to do a lot better than the men when it comes to playing in tournaments. Anyway, this will be one Cup that won't have Germany's name on it this time.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2017 18:26:33 GMT
Crack on lads your humour is just too much for me now. In fact I'm just nipping up to A and E to get my sides sewn back up......
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 31, 2017 20:22:41 GMT
I wasn't comparing it to anything. I watched it and thought this is shit, just like I do when watching mens football. Lets be clear, if the English women win that competition it won't be a victory for football, it will be a victory for strength and fitness. The English team went around kicking the Frogs and basically out run and out muscled them. It was terrible. Funny how people see different games. I thought the French looked the fittest and certainly the fastest team in the tournament. I think their problem in this tournament has been in their heads not in their fitness or speed. Physically they deserved to be the favourites they were but they didn't punch close to their weight in boxing terms. They also didn't have anyone as good at taking chances as Jodie Taylor whose chances to goals ratio has been a bit special this tournament. Houghton and Bright look like Russian shot putters. The former being absolutely filthy dirty. The French were athletic.
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Post by madnellie on Aug 1, 2017 4:19:19 GMT
I wasn't comparing it to anything. I watched it and thought this is shit, just like I do when watching mens football. Lets be clear, if the English women win that competition it won't be a victory for football, it will be a victory for strength and fitness. The English team went around kicking the Frogs and basically out run and out muscled them. It was terrible. I thought the England team did dominate the French physically and it was slightly disappointing how they simply closed the game out once they took the lead, walking the ball in to the corners and there was some time wasting too. 6 minutes overtime at the end of the 2nd half and 0 minutes at the end of the first is all the evidence you need of that. My guess is with the money now coming in the women's game in this country in particular, they now have some of the same fitness and strength coaches that are used in the men's games. If our women don't have that strength and fitness and come up against the USA team the England team will simply get put to the sword. But both that raw physicality and the shutting down of the game you would have to say is no more than an inevitable consequence of the onset of professionalism, we will see more of it and not less. I guess in the end it's a trade-off, if you want a team of demure girls you could bounce around on your knee at the end of the game you are going to complain that the football itself was powder puff, its either/or not both, I think we just need to embrace the new normal world of stronger women and for your own part make sure you are in the right kind of shape yourself should you be fortunate enough to encounter one on a dark night, or a light day for that matter To be fair Gods I think Sampson got it exactly right. If Southgate had needed to have the men play that way to reach a major semi final against one of our bogey teams I'm sure very few would complain about the game being terrible to watch, since the end very much justifies the means. The French have some very good technical players as well as all that pace. We would have no chance of passing them off the park, so we beat them by using our superior fitness, creating (and winning) a physical battle. They were also missing their captain and probably most physical player (Renard - she's excellent) so they were ripe for the taking. The game reminded me very much of Canada beating France at the 2012 Olympics, which was a very dull and cagey affair with Canada playing similarly to England yesterday with one very late goal against the run of play giving Canada the bronze medal. I was there for that one and it seemed even worse as it followed Canada's incredible semi final game against the USA, which is still the best game I've had the privilege of watching live. Yesterday's game was a pretty dismal game to watch for sure but that doesn't make the result any less sweet. We've been trying to find a way to beat France since 1974, so personally I don't care how crappy the game was, I'm just ecstatic we won and that we stand a good chance of Taylor getting the golden boot. It wasn't the time or place for an exhibition or to keep the neutrals happy, it was about continuing to put the Lionesses back on the map in the women's football world and proving that we have the ability to beat anyone, on our day. I'm so excited for Thursday, it will be a huge test and we won't be able to play that way against the Dutch and expect to get away with it. As Northy says, I think we will miss Scott (aka Crouchy) very much but we do have a strong squad so I'm hopeful.
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Post by madnellie on Aug 1, 2017 4:24:25 GMT
Must admit I don't watch a lot of Womens Nogger, but they do seem to do a lot better than the men when it comes to playing in tournaments. Anyway, this will be one Cup that won't have Germany's name on it this time. Germany seem to have totally lost their mojo of late. I'm not overly impressed with their new manager at all. Still, a semi final four of The Netherlands (hosts), England, Denmark and Austria is a very pleasant surprise, and the fact that a low ranked team is going to make it to the final makes me so happy. It looks like more countries are putting time and effort into their women's teams and it's creating a much more competitive environment.
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Post by madnellie on Aug 1, 2017 6:37:47 GMT
Funny how people see different games. I thought the French looked the fittest and certainly the fastest team in the tournament. I think their problem in this tournament has been in their heads not in their fitness or speed. Physically they deserved to be the favourites they were but they didn't punch close to their weight in boxing terms. They also didn't have anyone as good at taking chances as Jodie Taylor whose chances to goals ratio has been a bit special this tournament. Houghton and Bright look like Russian shot putters. The former being absolutely filthy dirty. The French were athletic. Central defenders in "built like brick outhouse" shocker Seriously though, with Houghton particularly I'm sure there's an element of payback from the 2015 WWC loss to France where Abily was smashing the English players in the face with gay abandon.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Aug 1, 2017 6:49:22 GMT
Houghton and Bright look like Russian shot putters. The former being absolutely filthy dirty. The French were athletic. Central defenders in "built like brick outhouse" shocker Seriously though, with Houghton particularly I'm sure there's an element of payback from the 2015 WWC loss to France where Abily was smashing the English players in the face with gay abandon. Steady on Nellie you'll have Danny Devito, or whatever that mental pygmy's name was, back on here like a rat up a pump with remarks like that. The board will be awash with crass, 'Carry On' style, homophobic innuendo again in no time.
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Post by madnellie on Aug 1, 2017 6:56:13 GMT
Central defenders in "built like brick outhouse" shocker Seriously though, with Houghton particularly I'm sure there's an element of payback from the 2015 WWC loss to France where Abily was smashing the English players in the face with gay abandon. Steady on Nellie you'll have Danny Devito, or whatever that mental pygmy's name was, back on here like a rat up a pump with remarks like that. The board will be awash with crass, 'Carry On' style, homophobic innuendo again in no time. Good point I'd already done my best to erase the pygmy troll from my memory, but with hindsight the words 'gay abandon' were a poor choice since he's probably going to wake up under the wrong side of his bridge yet again! Edited to add the link to the aforementioned elbow shenanigans, or at least one of them: www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jun/11/england-womens-world-cup-bassett-bruise
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2017 8:11:31 GMT
Central defenders in "built like brick outhouse" shocker Seriously though, with Houghton particularly I'm sure there's an element of payback from the 2015 WWC loss to France where Abily was smashing the English players in the face with gay abandon. Steady on Nellie you'll have Danny Devito, or whatever that mental pygmy's name was, back on here like a rat up a pump with remarks like that. The board will be awash with crass, 'Carry On' style, homophobic innuendo again in no time. You are embarrassing and a liar.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Aug 1, 2017 8:34:00 GMT
Steady on Nellie you'll have Danny Devito, or whatever that mental pygmy's name was, back on here like a rat up a pump with remarks like that. The board will be awash with crass, 'Carry On' style, homophobic innuendo again in no time. You are embarrassing and a liar. You clearly identified yourself with the description 'mental pygmy' despite not being named in my post. 'If the cap fits' as they say.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Aug 1, 2017 14:43:01 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2017 17:40:52 GMT
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Post by Gods on Aug 1, 2017 18:36:08 GMT
Apart from being the home nation are Holland any good?
My sense is with Germany out, the France bogey lifted, possession queens Spain gone and only the small population nations of Austria and Denmark left on the other side this is England's to lose.
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Post by blackpoolred on Aug 1, 2017 20:21:50 GMT
Their energy and belief is wonderful to watch. Technically Spain and France were better teams, but we still found a way to win which is what it is all about.
Need to learn to put their foot on the ball a bit more and we have a few players that treat the ball like a hot potato.
Manager is a bit Pulisesq: get the ball forward quickly and try and get the Taylor woman in on goal and the team look a bit better out of possession.
I would not bet against that group of girls though, the mental and physical strength is something the lads could learn from and it is going to have to be great performance by somebody to beat them, you get the feeling they are going to give it a good go.
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Post by madnellie on Aug 2, 2017 0:31:35 GMT
Gutted for her She even tried to play on for a bit didn't she? We do have an able deputy in Chamberlain though, thank goodness.
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Post by nott1 on Aug 2, 2017 5:56:10 GMT
I was looking forward to watching Louisa Necib pay for France but apparently she retired last year and married a footballer. What a fabulous player she was, skillful and elegant, sexy too!
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Post by Northy on Aug 3, 2017 17:40:09 GMT
If England get through tonight I dont see much danger from Austria or Denmark atm. the Danish ladies are very nice
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Post by madnellie on Aug 3, 2017 17:48:53 GMT
I was looking forward to watching Louisa Necib pay for France but apparently she retired last year and married a footballer. What a fabulous player she was, skillful and elegant, sexy too! She was an absolute joy to watch on every level
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Post by madnellie on Aug 3, 2017 17:51:19 GMT
If England get through tonight I dont see much danger from Austria or Denmark atm. the Danish ladies are very nice How's the game? I just got up as I worked last night. I agree, although Harder is usually a threat for the Danes, she's quality. Just one of the reasons why Copenhagen is one of my favourite cities in the world. I always seem to leave there with whiplash for some reason
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Post by madnellie on Aug 3, 2017 18:01:30 GMT
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Post by ruts66 on Aug 3, 2017 18:20:48 GMT
Clare Balding doing very well to remain focussed amongst all that temptation.
Come on England, just do eet...
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Post by essexstokey on Aug 3, 2017 18:24:10 GMT
Quote from the other game "it looks like an a&E department with all the injuries on the bench" still 0 0 7 mins to go
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Post by essexstokey on Aug 3, 2017 18:32:08 GMT
Penalties
Denmark / Austria
3 0
Denmark win
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Post by bathstoke on Aug 3, 2017 19:01:19 GMT
Some fine bone structure in these lady'sXx
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Post by Silkystoke on Aug 3, 2017 19:01:23 GMT
I'm enjoying this game..!!!! Good start
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Post by ashley luiz on Aug 3, 2017 19:08:11 GMT
The Dutch girls are certainly hotter
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Post by dutchstokie on Aug 3, 2017 19:08:14 GMT
Good goal that ..... well worked Dutchies 1 up
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Post by madnellie on Aug 3, 2017 19:08:23 GMT
Arghhhhh noooo
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Post by madnellie on Aug 3, 2017 19:09:38 GMT
Good goal that ..... well worked Dutchies 1 up Good news for you mate Did you manage to get to the game?
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Post by Northy on Aug 3, 2017 19:09:40 GMT
need to stop these moves down the right. plenty of time to get back into it
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