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Post by nott1 on Jul 16, 2017 8:09:36 GMT
I still think Bruno will sign Just me thinking out loud no proof and I've not been told anything Iwhatever has happened has happened maybe Porto maybe Stoke maybe the player maybe th agent holding things up,maybe all three. Whatever the facts the important thing is that we sign Bruno and one other defender before the season starts and hit the ground running. As our start is hard enough as it is without trying to play several players in several positions. For all we know he may well have signed or we may well have a replacement lined up. If that's the case get it done sooner rather than later stoke if it costs a few quid more so be it. Remember every place in the premiership is worth millions so spend a few now to sort our problems and we may finish a few places higher than expected. Look short term as well as long term. Just get it done before the season starts. We heard you first time!
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Post by s7oke on Jul 16, 2017 8:11:16 GMT
I still think Bruno will sign Just me thinking out loud no proof and I've not been told anything Iwhatever has happened has happened maybe Porto maybe Stoke maybe the player maybe th agent holding things up,maybe all three. Whatever the facts the important thing is that we sign Bruno and one other defender before the season starts and hit the ground running. As our start is hard enough as it is without trying to play several players in several positions. For all we know he may well have signed or we may well have a replacement lined up. If that's the case get it done sooner rather than later stoke if it costs a few quid more so be it. Remember every place in the premiership is worth millions so spend a few now to sort our problems and we may finish a few places higher than expected. Look short term as well as long term. Just get it done before the season starts. We heard you first time! So good it posted twice 😁
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Post by hanibal7 on Jul 16, 2017 8:23:15 GMT
The worst type of pontificators lol
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jul 16, 2017 8:28:03 GMT
The worst type of pontificators lol What's the Pope got to do with it?😵
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Post by duckling on Jul 16, 2017 8:41:41 GMT
In the United States, real estate transactions and ownership are public record. Is it the same in the UK? If so, you can find out that way if Bruno bought a home.
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Post by Ryan_Shawjosh on Jul 16, 2017 8:43:47 GMT
Waiting for him sign new deal at Chelsea. I'm assuming that means we'll definitely sign both if we can?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 16, 2017 8:45:16 GMT
Doesn't seem any end in sight to this tedious saga if he's in Mexico until Friday
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Post by steventaaffe on Jul 16, 2017 8:47:58 GMT
He's signing for Palace
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Post by milky on Jul 16, 2017 8:48:16 GMT
I guess it's one deal that at least we can afford to do last minute.
It's not like he needs to get to know his new team mates !
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Post by mattador78 on Jul 16, 2017 9:00:08 GMT
Right I've had a bit of a kip woke up read this and still we know fuck all so at least it's all consistent
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Post by smokeyjoe on Jul 16, 2017 9:05:06 GMT
Old news, or you know different?
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jul 16, 2017 9:10:23 GMT
That's the good old 'Dunkirk spirit'.
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Jul 16, 2017 9:57:10 GMT
FFS your guess is no better than mine unless you're a IKN which I very much doubt. So it's an opinion?? Do us all a favour and keep your opinions to yourself.
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Post by crownmeking on Jul 16, 2017 9:59:02 GMT
In the United States, real estate transactions and ownership are public record. Is it the same in the UK? If so, you can find out that way if Bruno bought a home. No it's not the same. And even if it was, Bruno probably doesn't buy in his name, more likely a holding company.
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Post by scfcwebby on Jul 16, 2017 9:59:37 GMT
Thanks for the info Hughesy
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 16, 2017 11:23:59 GMT
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Post by nott1 on Jul 16, 2017 11:27:45 GMT
Their sources are obviously nincompoops.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jul 16, 2017 11:34:17 GMT
Right I've had a bit of a kip woke up read this and still we know fuck all so at least it's all consistent Maybe consider hibernating for a few weeks and wake up when it's all sorted
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Post by nott1 on Jul 16, 2017 11:37:06 GMT
Right I've had a bit of a kip woke up read this and still we know fuck all so at least it's all consistent Maybe consider hibernating for a few weeks and wake up when it's all sorted A bit optimistic are you not?
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Post by ruts66 on Jul 16, 2017 11:42:42 GMT
It's about time Sky were openly ridiculed by clubs and The PL for the shite they put out...
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Post by mattador78 on Jul 16, 2017 11:58:41 GMT
Right I've had a bit of a kip woke up read this and still we know fuck all so at least it's all consistent Maybe consider hibernating for a few weeks and wake up when it's all sorted I would but it's a bit like crack at this time of year waiting for something happen as the season builds up. I'm nearly 40 I should know better but I can't help it
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 16, 2017 12:00:54 GMT
If the Pizzaboys had a chance of buying £10 notes for £1,by the time they have wondered if it`s a good deal,the price will have gone up to £10-50p.then most likely purchase 2.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jul 16, 2017 12:04:02 GMT
If the Pizzaboys had a chance of buying £10 notes for £1,by the time they have wondered if it`s a good deal,the price will have gone up to £10-50p.then most likely purchase 2. £10 for 50p isn't that a price reduction!!! Much like the rest of this thread I can't keep up!
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 16, 2017 12:09:02 GMT
If the Pizzaboys had a chance of buying £10 notes for £1,by the time they have wondered if it`s a good deal,the price will have gone up to £10-50p.then most likely purchase 2. £10 for 50p isn't that a price reduction!!! Much like the rest of this thread I can't keep up! £10.50p
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Post by captainmainwaring on Jul 16, 2017 12:11:46 GMT
I was pleased to hear MH talking about fake news, this week. I'm assuming that he meant all these rumours regarding Stoke City's negotiations with Porto for BMI .
It annoys me when I see and read, on this forum, so many, so called Stoke City supporters taking the opportunity to critcise the club, and certain employees in particular, on the flimsiest of evidence . It becomes like a feeding frenzy and gets out of control.
I, like every other supporter, get frustrated when transfer negotiations don't work out quite as quickly as I hoped but I don't condemn the club until I have some facts to go on.
I'd like to introduce some more news regarding this BMI deal.
Stoke signed BMI on a season long contract. There was an option to buy for 10m euros, provided that either club wished to take up that option. At that point in time non of us knew whether BMI was any good or not so we were trying before buying, which made sense.
Obviously BMI turns out to be a very good player and Stoke intimated to the player and his club that they would like to make the move permanent during the January transfer window. Porto say no deal until the end of his loan contract, knowing that if the player kept up his good form they would push for a higher fee in the summer.
BMI is willing to make the move permanent and agrees terms. He's so confident that the move will go ahead, he buys a house in Cheshire.
Come the end of the season and Porto say they no longer want to sell BMI
Then Porto come back to us and say they've changed their mind and he is for sale but at a higher price.
Stoke and Bruno are very annoyed by these shenanigans and decide to make a stand against them.
Stoke tell Porto that they will only pay the agreed fee of 10m euros and BMI, (unbeknown to Porto), says he won't sign for any other club.
As an extra incentive to BMI to go along with this plan, and knowing that they'd be quids in, Stoke have offered him an extra signing on fee that no other club would be able to match.
So the ball is now back in Porto's court. To try and put pressure on Stoke (and the fans) they say that other clubs are interested. But we know different.
It's just a matter of time now until Porto relent, especially when we announce the signing of Zouma from Chelsea.
Of course this is all made up. I've no evidence at all that it's true but lets go with it with the same passion as the negative stories.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 16, 2017 12:16:08 GMT
I was pleased to hear MH talking about fake news, this week. I'm assuming that he meant all these rumours regarding Stoke City's negotiations with Porto for BMI . It annoys me when I see and read, on this forum, so many, so called Stoke City supporters taking the opportunity to critcise the club, and certain employees in particular, on the flimsiest of evidence . It becomes like a feeding frenzy and gets out of control. I, like every other supporter, get frustrated when transfer negotiations don't work out quite as quickly as I hoped but I don't condemn the club until I have some facts to go on. I'd like to introduce some more news regarding this BMI deal. Stoke signed BMI on a season long contract. There was an option to buy for 10m euros, provided that either club wished to take up that option. At that point in time non of us knew whether BMI was any good or not so we were trying before buying, which made sense. Obviously BMI turns out to be a very good player and Stoke intimated to the player and his club that they would like to make the move permanent during the January transfer window. Porto say no deal until the end of his loan contract, knowing that if the player kept up his good form they would push for a higher fee in the summer. BMI is willing to make the move permanent and agrees terms. He's so confident that the move will go ahead, he buys a house in Cheshire. Come the end of the season and Porto say they no longer want to sell BMI Then Porto come back to us and say they've changed their mind and he is for sale but at a higher price. Stoke and Bruno are very annoyed by these shenanigans and decide to make a stand against them. Stoke tell Porto that they will only pay the agreed fee of 10m euros and BMI, (unbeknown to Porto), says he won't sign for any other club. As an extra incentive to BMI to go along with this plan, and knowing that they'd be quids in, Stoke have offered him an extra signing on fee that no other club would be able to match. So the ball is now back in Porto's court. To try and put pressure on Stoke (and the fans) they say that other clubs are interested. But we know different. It's just a matter of time now until Porto relent, especially when we announce the signing of Zouma from Chelsea. Of course this is all made up. I've no evidence at all that it's true but lets go with it with the same passion as the negative stories. There are quotes from the manager saying we had a deal in place and there was no need to panic as it was just about agreeing with the player. We then have quotes from the player saying that he wanted to sign. It's not made up, it's what has been said. We were told that it would be fine, it wasn't/isn't.
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Post by hanibal7 on Jul 16, 2017 12:21:23 GMT
I was pleased to hear MH talking about fake news, this week. I'm assuming that he meant all these rumours regarding Stoke City's negotiations with Porto for BMI . It annoys me when I see and read, on this forum, so many, so called Stoke City supporters taking the opportunity to critcise the club, and certain employees in particular, on the flimsiest of evidence . It becomes like a feeding frenzy and gets out of control. I, like every other supporter, get frustrated when transfer negotiations don't work out quite as quickly as I hoped but I don't condemn the club until I have some facts to go on. I'd like to introduce some more news regarding this BMI deal. Stoke signed BMI on a season long contract. There was an option to buy for 10m euros, provided that either club wished to take up that option. At that point in time non of us knew whether BMI was any good or not so we were trying before buying, which made sense. Obviously BMI turns out to be a very good player and Stoke intimated to the player and his club that they would like to make the move permanent during the January transfer window. Porto say no deal until the end of his loan contract, knowing that if the player kept up his good form they would push for a higher fee in the summer. BMI is willing to make the move permanent and agrees terms. He's so confident that the move will go ahead, he buys a house in Cheshire. Come the end of the season and Porto say they no longer want to sell BMI Then Porto come back to us and say they've changed their mind and he is for sale but at a higher price. Stoke and Bruno are very annoyed by these shenanigans and decide to make a stand against them. Stoke tell Porto that they will only pay the agreed fee of 10m euros and BMI, (unbeknown to Porto), says he won't sign for any other club. As an extra incentive to BMI to go along with this plan, and knowing that they'd be quids in, Stoke have offered him an extra signing on fee that no other club would be able to match. So the ball is now back in Porto's court. To try and put pressure on Stoke (and the fans) they say that other clubs are interested. But we know different. It's just a matter of time now until Porto relent, especially when we announce the signing of Zouma from Chelsea. Of course this is all made up. I've no evidence at all that it's true but lets go with it with the same passion as the negative stories. There are quotes from the manager saying we had a deal in place and there was no need to panic as it was just about agreeing with the player.i heard rumours that someone on here had a kiddie at stoke, and they got rid of him.so he is very bitter, no response from him either???? So it's true????? We then have quotes from the player saying that he wanted to sign. It's not made up, it's what has been said. We were told that it would be fine, it wasn't/isn't.
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Post by dadofsam on Jul 16, 2017 12:24:34 GMT
I'm still wanting to know why we didn't exercise our option to buy?
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 16, 2017 12:26:14 GMT
I'm still wanting to know why we didn't exercise our option to buy? Because, apparently, the option meant Porto could still pull out of the deal even if we wanted him.. clear as mud.
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Post by march4 on Jul 16, 2017 12:28:08 GMT
When clubs loan a player, isn't the deal that a future fee is agreed should both clubs agree the sale.
When we loaned Ameobi wasn't there an agreed fee for a permanent deal, but on that occasion we didn't want to go ahead?
Much as I think our transfer team should be better, I think what has happened here is quite understandable. Had Bruno been rubbish, what would we have been saying had we been forced to sign him at the end of the loan.
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